FCPS Boundary Review Updates

[Anonymous]

Also if your neighborhood friends told you they go for the Catholic education, why do not believe it or why do you care why they do not go to Timber Lane? They are not bad-mouthing the school, their choices literally have nothing to do with you. I think it’s time for you to realize families make their own choices independent of what their friends families might be doing. It does not mean they are judging your choice.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Also if your neighborhood friends told you they go for the Catholic education, why do not believe it or why do you care why they do not go to Timber Lane? They are not bad-mouthing the school, their choices literally have nothing to do with you. I think it’s time for you to realize families make their own choices independent of what their friends families might be doing. It does not mean they are judging your choice.

Bc they aren’t just going for the catholic education. Suddenly public school becomes ok in middle and high school, as long as it isn’t at Timber Lane (or Shrevewood, for that matter). So now these same people suddenly claiming to care about the FARMs students at Timberlane is quite frankly disgusting.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We are at Timber Lane ES which has been a recent topic of conversation, we are in the section that has always been zoned to go to Jackson/FCHS. I always thought the split feeder stunk because the kids they were friends with would not all continue on together. But anyhow, I never cared that the other kids went to McLean, it’s just the way it has been set up. But what I have found interesting, is some of the families on the McLean side who are unhappy with the split have been arguing on how it tears their community apart. This makes sense for families that have already started middle school and high school, but some of the loudest voices still just have elementary aged students. It’s like, all the sudden the “community” they had with the families across Lee Hwy that have been with their kids for years does not matter. And they make arguments about what sports teams they join (we still live in the same area, we all join the same teams) and their sudden deep concern for the education of their title 1 neighbors. Now, I want nothing more for them to be zoned back out of FCHS because I find the parents to be pretty insufferable and cannot believe the level of entitlement. I would much rather not have to have these people in my life after my kids finish elementary school.

I don’t think many people understand how many of these entitled send their kids to private to avoid the riff raff at Timberlane. They are the same group who are now claiming to care about those same students. Looking at you, St. James, families.

This sounds like some deep seated jealously.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Also if your neighborhood friends told you they go for the Catholic education, why do not believe it or why do you care why they do not go to Timber Lane? They are not bad-mouthing the school, their choices literally have nothing to do with you. I think it’s time for you to realize families make their own choices independent of what their friends families might be doing. It does not mean they are judging your choice.

Bc they aren’t just going for the catholic education. Suddenly public school becomes ok in middle and high school, as long as it isn’t at Timber Lane (or Shrevewood, for that matter). So now these same people suddenly claiming to care about the FARMs students at Timberlane is quite frankly disgusting.

DP. It's nothing new for families to send their kids to K-6 parochial schools and then to public middle and high schools or to K-8 parochial schools and then to public high school. Langley HS has a lot of families who sent their kids to St. Luke when they could have gone to Churchill Road and Cooper, and McLean HS has a lot of families who sent their kids to St. Mark when they could have gone to Chesterbrook and Longfellow. I'm not convinced you have quite as much insight into the motives of all these families as you think you do.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We are at Timber Lane ES which has been a recent topic of conversation, we are in the section that has always been zoned to go to Jackson/FCHS. I always thought the split feeder stunk because the kids they were friends with would not all continue on together. But anyhow, I never cared that the other kids went to McLean, it’s just the way it has been set up. But what I have found interesting, is some of the families on the McLean side who are unhappy with the split have been arguing on how it tears their community apart. This makes sense for families that have already started middle school and high school, but some of the loudest voices still just have elementary aged students. It’s like, all the sudden the “community” they had with the families across Lee Hwy that have been with their kids for years does not matter. And they make arguments about what sports teams they join (we still live in the same area, we all join the same teams) and their sudden deep concern for the education of their title 1 neighbors. Now, I want nothing more for them to be zoned back out of FCHS because I find the parents to be pretty insufferable and cannot believe the level of entitlement. I would much rather not have to have these people in my life after my kids finish elementary school.

I don’t think many people understand how many of these entitled send their kids to private to avoid the riff raff at Timberlane. They are the same group who are now claiming to care about those same students. Looking at you, St. James, families.

This sounds like some deep seated jealously.

Since they don't even know it's Timber Lane and not Timberlane we can probably assume they are tossing grenades from a comfortable distance and perhaps dealing with their own personal demons.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It is amazing how stark the difference is between McLean and Falls Church.

37% English Learner at FCHS vs 7% at McLean
64% Free&Reduced at FCHS vs 12% at McLean

And yet there are families who prefer FCHS.

[Anonymous]

Now the real question is, which school/neighborhood blows up tonight’s community meeting?!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am very curious if most of the pro rezoning posts from the past 10-20 pages are from just 1-2 people posting repeatedly.

The pro-boundary update people watching the thread have very little incentive to post. If someone posts how they'd like to fix their split feeder they are hounded incessantly by claims of "you just want to hurt the mental health of my kids", or "you're just trying to increase your property value at the expense of others" (the Emerald Chase people come to mind most recently) - all the while the people posting against them are happy to do the same to keep the status quo. I notice hardly any Emerald Chase people post here anymore because of it.
You don't have the super majority you think you have. It's just an echo chamber in here.

If you are posting the majority of the posts in support of boundary changes here, then it is likely that you have as little support throughout FCPS as you do here.

No, usually I post maybe once a week - twice if I reply to someone afterward. I'm not in a split feeder ES, but one kid basically was because of AAP. He was split from his friends where roughly 30% of the kids go to the center - so it's a situation Thru wouldn't have addressed either. Now he goes to Carson for AAP where he'll be split from most of his peers once again for high school. Split feeders are not ideal and should be eliminated whenever possible. The only people okay with them are the ones that are just happy they got the "better" end of the split for their future middle and high school and don't want it fixed if they end up somewhere "worse."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am very curious if most of the pro rezoning posts from the past 10-20 pages are from just 1-2 people posting repeatedly.

The pro-boundary update people watching the thread have very little incentive to post. If someone posts how they'd like to fix their split feeder they are hounded incessantly by claims of "you just want to hurt the mental health of my kids", or "you're just trying to increase your property value at the expense of others" (the Emerald Chase people come to mind most recently) - all the while the people posting against them are happy to do the same to keep the status quo. I notice hardly any Emerald Chase people post here anymore because of it.
You don't have the super majority you think you have. It's just an echo chamber in here.

If you are posting the majority of the posts in support of boundary changes here, then it is likely that you have as little support throughout FCPS as you do here.

No, usually I post maybe once a week - twice if I reply to someone afterward. I'm not in a split feeder ES, but one kid basically was because of AAP. He was split from his friends where roughly 30% of the kids go to the center - so it's a situation Thru wouldn't have addressed either. Now he goes to Carson for AAP where he'll be split from most of his peers once again for high school. Split feeders are not ideal and should be eliminated whenever possible. The only people okay with them are the ones that are just happy they got the "better" end of the split for their future middle and high school and don't want it fixed if they end up somewhere "worse."

I understand concerns about split feeders, but there is no rule that said you had to send your child to a "center." That is a totally different situation and a choice.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It is amazing how stark the difference is between McLean and Falls Church.

37% English Learner at FCHS vs 7% at McLean
64% Free&Reduced at FCHS vs 12% at McLean

And yet there are families who prefer FCHS.

And absolutely no one is pushing for them to be rezoned out of FCHS, except for that one Fairhill guy who was hoping they'd rearrange enough boundaries for his kids to get moved from Falls Church to Oakton, Woodson, or Madison.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am very curious if most of the pro rezoning posts from the past 10-20 pages are from just 1-2 people posting repeatedly.

The pro-boundary update people watching the thread have very little incentive to post. If someone posts how they'd like to fix their split feeder they are hounded incessantly by claims of "you just want to hurt the mental health of my kids", or "you're just trying to increase your property value at the expense of others" (the Emerald Chase people come to mind most recently) - all the while the people posting against them are happy to do the same to keep the status quo. I notice hardly any Emerald Chase people post here anymore because of it.
You don't have the super majority you think you have. It's just an echo chamber in here.

If you are posting the majority of the posts in support of boundary changes here, then it is likely that you have as little support throughout FCPS as you do here.

No, usually I post maybe once a week - twice if I reply to someone afterward. I'm not in a split feeder ES, but one kid basically was because of AAP. He was split from his friends where roughly 30% of the kids go to the center - so it's a situation Thru wouldn't have addressed either. Now he goes to Carson for AAP where he'll be split from most of his peers once again for high school. Split feeders are not ideal and should be eliminated whenever possible. The only people okay with them are the ones that are just happy they got the "better" end of the split for their future middle and high school and don't want it fixed if they end up somewhere "worse."

I understand the frustration of some people at schools like Carson and Thoreau that are three-way split feeders and have some really weird feeder patterns. What I don't quite get is why some in those areas don't spend more time asking FCPS and its outside consultants to address them, because they aren't part of Thru's proposals. Instead, they project all their angst into cheering for other people's kids to get redistricted to eliminate split feeders at other schools their kids don't attend. That just seems bizarre to me.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Also if your neighborhood friends told you they go for the Catholic education, why do not believe it or why do you care why they do not go to Timber Lane? They are not bad-mouthing the school, their choices literally have nothing to do with you. I think it’s time for you to realize families make their own choices independent of what their friends families might be doing. It does not mean they are judging your choice.

Bc they aren’t just going for the catholic education. Suddenly public school becomes ok in middle and high school, as long as it isn’t at Timber Lane (or Shrevewood, for that matter). So now these same people suddenly claiming to care about the FARMs students at Timberlane is quite frankly disgusting.

We are a family from a different area that sent our kids to Catholic grade school and public high school, specifically so they would have experience being around kids from all sorts of religious and non religious backgrounds to prepare them to transition from a Catholic, religious community with shared values, to going away to college with people from all walks of life.

That is not uncommon for Catholic families to enroll their kids in Catholic grade school to enrich their spiritual like and understanding and have their kids in a teaching structure and institution that incorporates Catholic values in everything from religious classes and faith formation, to math class, science and even art and music classes. Later, they send them into the public system for preparation for living and thriving in a secular world that is often hostile to people of faith.

That is a very Catholic thing to do, and has nothing to do with FCPS zoning or FARMS rates.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:PP- to clarify- the McLean families are not unhappy with the split, they are upset with the reasoning to FCHS.

The pro boundary change/SJW folks are tripping all over themselves on this one.

“Hell, no, no addition for McLean! Redistrict those kids (again) and eliminate the attendance islands and split feeders!”

“You mean we’re sending most of the FARMS kids there to Falls Church and slashing the FARMS rate at McLean? Hell, no!”

“You mean if we want to keep those FARMS kids at McLean, we have to create a new split feeder at Shrevewood so we don’t have a terrible, awful, very bad attendance island? Hell, no!”

McLean: “How about you just leave our families alone for now and let us know when you’re finally going to renovate our school?”

Shrevewood isn't even zoned to McLean right now. This has nothing to do with McLean parents. It has to do with creating a split feeder for no reason just because they don't want to keep Timberlane an attendance island. I think the idea of ruining other schools to get rid of attendance islands is so stupid. Literally nobody has ever complained specifically about Timberlane being an attendance island. The parents there don't care, they're just happy they're zoned to McLean (and unhappy now). Shrevewood parents on the other hand seem to be just fine with their current pyramid and don't want their school (which has already been torn apart by the previous principal's idiotic removal of the AAP program) torn apart AGAIN.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We are at Timber Lane ES which has been a recent topic of conversation, we are in the section that has always been zoned to go to Jackson/FCHS. I always thought the split feeder stunk because the kids they were friends with would not all continue on together. But anyhow, I never cared that the other kids went to McLean, it’s just the way it has been set up. But what I have found interesting, is some of the families on the McLean side who are unhappy with the split have been arguing on how it tears their community apart. This makes sense for families that have already started middle school and high school, but some of the loudest voices still just have elementary aged students. It’s like, all the sudden the “community” they had with the families across Lee Hwy that have been with their kids for years does not matter. And they make arguments about what sports teams they join (we still live in the same area, we all join the same teams) and their sudden deep concern for the education of their title 1 neighbors. Now, I want nothing more for them to be zoned back out of FCHS because I find the parents to be pretty insufferable and cannot believe the level of entitlement. I would much rather not have to have these people in my life after my kids finish elementary school.

I don’t think many people understand how many of these entitled send their kids to private to avoid the riff raff at Timberlane. They are the same group who are now claiming to care about those same students. Looking at you, St. James, families.

I mean, it's fine, the St. James families will just have to shell out for another four years to send their kids to Bishop O'Connell instead of McLean.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We are at Timber Lane ES which has been a recent topic of conversation, we are in the section that has always been zoned to go to Jackson/FCHS. I always thought the split feeder stunk because the kids they were friends with would not all continue on together. But anyhow, I never cared that the other kids went to McLean, it’s just the way it has been set up. But what I have found interesting, is some of the families on the McLean side who are unhappy with the split have been arguing on how it tears their community apart. This makes sense for families that have already started middle school and high school, but some of the loudest voices still just have elementary aged students. It’s like, all the sudden the “community” they had with the families across Lee Hwy that have been with their kids for years does not matter. And they make arguments about what sports teams they join (we still live in the same area, we all join the same teams) and their sudden deep concern for the education of their title 1 neighbors. Now, I want nothing more for them to be zoned back out of FCHS because I find the parents to be pretty insufferable and cannot believe the level of entitlement. I would much rather not have to have these people in my life after my kids finish elementary school.

I don’t think many people understand how many of these entitled send their kids to private to avoid the riff raff at Timberlane. They are the same group who are now claiming to care about those same students. Looking at you, St. James, families.

There is only a handful of kids who leave at middle school to go back to public. The vast majority of kids continue on for Catholic High School. I don’t think kids that go to Catholic school in any part of Fairfax are the people who as invested in what is going on with the boundary changes.

They care only because it impacts their property value.