Initial boundary options for Woodward study area are up

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Option 3 is great for the DC tax base.

Any Chevy Chase parent whose kids are sent to Blair/Takoma is going to have to ask themselves why they wouldn't just move (back) into upper NW DC and send their kids to Wilson/Jackson Reed instead. There are good elementaries like Eaton, Janney, etc. Plus good preK3&4 options.

Option #3 will drain MoCo into Upper NW DC. Most of them lived in DC anyway before moving to ChCh. Their lives and work are oriented toward downtown DC not toward the outer Beltway. Many more will choose to stay in DC, thinking they will move to a new area in MS/HS or pay for private HS only if necessary

If you think the progressives are bad in Moco, then you have a whole other thing coming by moving into DC.

Not when it comes to schools. PTAs there are able to do so much more there than allowed in Moco.

Parent in the early ES years at MCPS here: what aren’t PTAs allowed to do?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is it for sure that the current 7th & 4th graders will have to change at 10th and 7th grades? That seems so brutal.

This is true. My husband attended the in person meeting at Kennedy this evening and this was reiterated. It was also explained that the “Program Study” is concurrent with the boundary study for staffing. Don’t expect consortiums to exist after both of these are finished. Unsure if these regional programs will end up as a lottery or application based. It’s also unclear what happens to kids who are currently in an immersion or other special program outside of their home school when these changes take affect.

How old are the consortiums?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Option 3 is great for the DC tax base.

Any Chevy Chase parent whose kids are sent to Blair/Takoma is going to have to ask themselves why they wouldn't just move (back) into upper NW DC and send their kids to Wilson/Jackson Reed instead. There are good elementaries like Eaton, Janney, etc. Plus good preK3&4 options.

Option #3 will drain MoCo into Upper NW DC. Most of them lived in DC anyway before moving to ChCh. Their lives and work are oriented toward downtown DC not toward the outer Beltway. Many more will choose to stay in DC, thinking they will move to a new area in MS/HS or pay for private HS only if necessary

If you think the progressives are bad in Moco, then you have a whole other thing coming by moving into DC.

Not when it comes to schools. PTAs there are able to do so much more there than allowed in Moco.

Parent in the early ES years at MCPS here: what aren’t PTAs allowed to do?

In DC the PTAs can pay for staff. Can hire teachers to bring down class sizes, include extra classes, etc. Muche more flexible.

[Anonymous]

Why isn’t mcps just cut in half? This would solve the snow day madness and make rezoning so much easier. The school district is too big.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is it for sure that the current 7th & 4th graders will have to change at 10th and 7th grades? That seems so brutal.

This is true. My husband attended the in person meeting at Kennedy this evening and this was reiterated. It was also explained that the “Program Study” is concurrent with the boundary study for staffing. Don’t expect consortiums to exist after both of these are finished. Unsure if these regional programs will end up as a lottery or application based. It’s also unclear what happens to kids who are currently in an immersion or other special program outside of their home school when these changes take affect.

How old are the consortiums?

About 20 years old

[Anonymous]

Are they still emphasizing walk zones?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So they can get public feedback. We may not get as much time to provide feedback later on other options. This may be it.

but then these options have to be at least possible. You don't put out completely fake and unrealistic options. If you did, then all feedback would be useless.

+1 They should be putting out options that they are proposing in good faith, which then will get tweaked as needed. They are just wasting everyone’s time with this. That’s not an opportunity to provide meaningful input.

This. Please make it known that you understand the process and are upset they've spent so much time and money unnecessarily. Not only did they waste a lot of resources, they've stirred people up with maps that will never happen

[Anonymous]

I’ve read all 43 pages of this thread and am pretty disheartened. I have not seen one comment in favor of the more disruptive (to the current status quo) options say a single thing about the prospective quality of education improvement that the potential new Whitman and BCC students would receive. Instead, it’s all about sending Whitman and BCC bus loads of poor kids to somehow stick it to them? If those poor kids have to spend 45 minutes on a bus to (somehow?) upset the rich kids, great!

The kids being bussed from poor communities? Those are kids, not props in your vendetta fantasies. The rich kids you’re sticking it to? Also, just kids. The “foolish” communities that want to stay together? Communities of people (that just want to stay together).

Let’s make every school better and every kid’s life better. Let’s not use them as props against each other.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So they can get public feedback. We may not get as much time to provide feedback later on other options. This may be it.

but then these options have to be at least possible. You don't put out completely fake and unrealistic options. If you did, then all feedback would be useless.

+1 They should be putting out options that they are proposing in good faith, which then will get tweaked as needed. They are just wasting everyone’s time with this. That’s not an opportunity to provide meaningful input.

This. Please make it known that you understand the process and are upset they've spent so much time and money unnecessarily. Not only did they waste a lot of resources, they've stirred people up with maps that will never happen

Or maybe just don’t get stirred up over something that wouldn’t be life and death, even if these were the final options.

[Anonymous]

Ive read all 43 pages as well and I haven't heard anyone denigrating kids. It's the BOE that appears to be pushing against voices from all sides, races and backgrounds who say they want less disruption, not more. I have come around to the notion that is should not be the BOE's role to try to address problems created by the County (lack of affordable housing, dwindling job growth). It is actually very Trump-like of the BOE to push wild and shocking options out for everyone to freak out over, only later to scale back to something more palatable.

Settle in folks and relax. There will be more options sure to cost a lot of money and make no one happy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’ve read all 43 pages of this thread and am pretty disheartened. I have not seen one comment in favor of the more disruptive (to the current status quo) options say a single thing about the prospective quality of education improvement that the potential new Whitman and BCC students would receive. Instead, it’s all about sending Whitman and BCC bus loads of poor kids to somehow stick it to them? If those poor kids have to spend 45 minutes on a bus to (somehow?) upset the rich kids, great!

The kids being bussed from poor communities? Those are kids, not props in your vendetta fantasies. The rich kids you’re sticking it to? Also, just kids. The “foolish” communities that want to stay together? Communities of people (that just want to stay together).

Let’s make every school better and every kid’s life better. Let’s not use them as props against each other.

+10000000000000000000000

Kids, they are all kids worthy of respect and kindness

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’ve read all 43 pages of this thread and am pretty disheartened. I have not seen one comment in favor of the more disruptive (to the current status quo) options say a single thing about the prospective quality of education improvement that the potential new Whitman and BCC students would receive. Instead, it’s all about sending Whitman and BCC bus loads of poor kids to somehow stick it to them? If those poor kids have to spend 45 minutes on a bus to (somehow?) upset the rich kids, great!

The kids being bussed from poor communities? Those are kids, not props in your vendetta fantasies. The rich kids you’re sticking it to? Also, just kids. The “foolish” communities that want to stay together? Communities of people (that just want to stay together).

Let’s make every school better and every kid’s life better. Let’s not use them as props against each other.

+10000000000000000000000

Kids, they are all kids worthy of respect and kindness

Huh? The neighborhood of kids you’re referring to already goes to BCC

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So they can get public feedback. We may not get as much time to provide feedback later on other options. This may be it.

but then these options have to be at least possible. You don't put out completely fake and unrealistic options. If you did, then all feedback would be useless.

+1 They should be putting out options that they are proposing in good faith, which then will get tweaked as needed. They are just wasting everyone’s time with this. That’s not an opportunity to provide meaningful input.

This. Please make it known that you understand the process and are upset they've spent so much time and money unnecessarily. Not only did they waste a lot of resources, they've stirred people up with maps that will never happen

Or maybe just don’t get stirred up over something that wouldn’t be life and death, even if these were the final options.

Oh so we are only allowed to be upset about something that will kill us? Stop gaslighting. This will have a real impact on children. It matters.

[Anonymous]

So after we vote what is the next step? And when will be see a final map?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’ve read all 43 pages of this thread and am pretty disheartened. I have not seen one comment in favor of the more disruptive (to the current status quo) options say a single thing about the prospective quality of education improvement that the potential new Whitman and BCC students would receive. Instead, it’s all about sending Whitman and BCC bus loads of poor kids to somehow stick it to them? If those poor kids have to spend 45 minutes on a bus to (somehow?) upset the rich kids, great!

The kids being bussed from poor communities? Those are kids, not props in your vendetta fantasies. The rich kids you’re sticking it to? Also, just kids. The “foolish” communities that want to stay together? Communities of people (that just want to stay together).

Let’s make every school better and every kid’s life better. Let’s not use them as props against each other.

+10000000000000000000000

Kids, they are all kids worthy of respect and kindness

Huh? The neighborhood of kids you’re referring to already goes to BCC

Huh? All the kids in MCPS go to BCC?