FCPS Boundary Review Updates

[Anonymous]

Isn’t McNair 2x as far to Westfield as Herndon? Is there a chance in the boundary review that more of Coates goes to McNair and then McNair shifts to Herndon pyramid? McNair to Westfield is 8 miles versus four to Herndon. That’s like the distance people are angry about for Langley versus Herndon . Both Coates and McNair are so far from Westfield

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Isn’t McNair 2x as far to Westfield as Herndon? Is there a chance in the boundary review that more of Coates goes to McNair and then McNair shifts to Herndon pyramid? McNair to Westfield is 8 miles versus four to Herndon. That’s like the distance people are angry about for Langley versus Herndon . Both Coates and McNair are so far from Westfield

Except kids over 10 miles from Langley are going there when Herndon is less than half the distance.

Also, McNair is the only AAP Center ES in the Westfield pyramid. Clearview is already an AAP Center ES in the Herndon pyramid.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Isn’t McNair 2x as far to Westfield as Herndon? Is there a chance in the boundary review that more of Coates goes to McNair and then McNair shifts to Herndon pyramid? McNair to Westfield is 8 miles versus four to Herndon. That’s like the distance people are angry about for Langley versus Herndon . Both Coates and McNair are so far from Westfield

Except kids over 10 miles from Langley are going there when Herndon is less than half the distance.

Also, McNair is the only AAP Center ES in the Westfield pyramid. Clearview is already an AAP Center ES in the Herndon pyramid.

I’m not saying one or the other. But seems logical to pull from both sides. Our center school is out of pyramid (i believe quite a few are) so i don’t think that’s a solid argument

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Isn’t McNair 2x as far to Westfield as Herndon? Is there a chance in the boundary review that more of Coates goes to McNair and then McNair shifts to Herndon pyramid? McNair to Westfield is 8 miles versus four to Herndon. That’s like the distance people are angry about for Langley versus Herndon . Both Coates and McNair are so far from Westfield

Herndon did not want McNair in the 2008 redistricting. Neither did South Lakes. It was proposed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Isn’t McNair 2x as far to Westfield as Herndon? Is there a chance in the boundary review that more of Coates goes to McNair and then McNair shifts to Herndon pyramid? McNair to Westfield is 8 miles versus four to Herndon. That’s like the distance people are angry about for Langley versus Herndon . Both Coates and McNair are so far from Westfield

Herndon did not want McNair in the 2008 redistricting. Neither did South Lakes. It was proposed.

Why? We just moved here a year ago and don’t know a lot of the history of previous changes besides what i have read on this board

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Isn’t McNair 2x as far to Westfield as Herndon? Is there a chance in the boundary review that more of Coates goes to McNair and then McNair shifts to Herndon pyramid? McNair to Westfield is 8 miles versus four to Herndon. That’s like the distance people are angry about for Langley versus Herndon . Both Coates and McNair are so far from Westfield

Herndon did not want McNair in the 2008 redistricting. Neither did South Lakes. It was proposed.

Why? We just moved here a year ago and don’t know a lot of the history of previous changes besides what i have read on this board

Demographics

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Isn’t McNair 2x as far to Westfield as Herndon? Is there a chance in the boundary review that more of Coates goes to McNair and then McNair shifts to Herndon pyramid? McNair to Westfield is 8 miles versus four to Herndon. That’s like the distance people are angry about for Langley versus Herndon . Both Coates and McNair are so far from Westfield

Except kids over 10 miles from Langley are going there when Herndon is less than half the distance.

Also, McNair is the only AAP Center ES in the Westfield pyramid. Clearview is already an AAP Center ES in the Herndon pyramid.

I’m not saying one or the other. But seems logical to pull from both sides. Our center school is out of pyramid (i believe quite a few are) so i don’t think that’s a solid argument

It’s a very solid argument if you believe the commitment to “equitable access to programming” means, at a minimum, avoiding the creation of new situations where a pyramid lacks an AAP center at either the ES or MS level.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Isn’t McNair 2x as far to Westfield as Herndon? Is there a chance in the boundary review that more of Coates goes to McNair and then McNair shifts to Herndon pyramid? McNair to Westfield is 8 miles versus four to Herndon. That’s like the distance people are angry about for Langley versus Herndon . Both Coates and McNair are so far from Westfield

Except kids over 10 miles from Langley are going there when Herndon is less than half the distance.

Also, McNair is the only AAP Center ES in the Westfield pyramid. Clearview is already an AAP Center ES in the Herndon pyramid.

I’m not saying one or the other. But seems logical to pull from both sides. Our center school is out of pyramid (i believe quite a few are) so i don’t think that’s a solid argument

I think this is the likely outcome. It won’t be one elementary school shifted. It will be elementary schools in Herndon absorbing more neighborhoods from the edges of Coates and Forestville, and it will be closing transfer loopholes to bring students back from South Lakes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Isn’t McNair 2x as far to Westfield as Herndon? Is there a chance in the boundary review that more of Coates goes to McNair and then McNair shifts to Herndon pyramid? McNair to Westfield is 8 miles versus four to Herndon. That’s like the distance people are angry about for Langley versus Herndon . Both Coates and McNair are so far from Westfield

Except kids over 10 miles from Langley are going there when Herndon is less than half the distance.

Also, McNair is the only AAP Center ES in the Westfield pyramid. Clearview is already an AAP Center ES in the Herndon pyramid.

There you are again, pretending like distance equates to savings. A reminder to everyone who reads this posters frequent posts on distance, it’s two minutes difference between HMS and cooper and 9 between hhs and Langley. Even less for folks to the East and North of Forestville.

It doesn’t save any transportation costs, but this poster repeats it because that’s all she’s got.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Isn’t McNair 2x as far to Westfield as Herndon? Is there a chance in the boundary review that more of Coates goes to McNair and then McNair shifts to Herndon pyramid? McNair to Westfield is 8 miles versus four to Herndon. That’s like the distance people are angry about for Langley versus Herndon . Both Coates and McNair are so far from Westfield

Except kids over 10 miles from Langley are going there when Herndon is less than half the distance.

Also, McNair is the only AAP Center ES in the Westfield pyramid. Clearview is already an AAP Center ES in the Herndon pyramid.

There you are again, pretending like distance equates to savings. A reminder to everyone who reads this posters frequent posts on distance, it’s two minutes difference between HMS and cooper and 9 between hhs and Langley. Even less for folks to the East and North of Forestville.

It doesn’t save any transportation costs, but this poster repeats it because that’s all she’s got.

The two situations aren’t similar, and moving McNair to Herndon leaves Westfield without any AAP center at the ES level.

Of course that doesn’t matter to Langley families who will defend their 10 mile or more commutes to the death and already have two ES AAP centers and a MS AAP center.

[Anonymous]

NP. Before any discussion of changing boundaries, the SB needs to eliminate ALL AAP centers and just ensure every school has AAP classes. The skewing and confusion of borders is due in large part to the absurd busing of certain students to center schools. At this point, the center model is redundant and wasteful and needs to end.

Boundaries should only be addressed if there is a need to do so AFTER all kids are back in their community schools.

[Anonymous]

^^ Better yet, offer flexible groupings in every grade at every school to include a GT group for the very few kids who should qualify for it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Isn’t McNair 2x as far to Westfield as Herndon? Is there a chance in the boundary review that more of Coates goes to McNair and then McNair shifts to Herndon pyramid? McNair to Westfield is 8 miles versus four to Herndon. That’s like the distance people are angry about for Langley versus Herndon . Both Coates and McNair are so far from Westfield

Except kids over 10 miles from Langley are going there when Herndon is less than half the distance.

Also, McNair is the only AAP Center ES in the Westfield pyramid. Clearview is already an AAP Center ES in the Herndon pyramid.

There you are again, pretending like distance equates to savings. A reminder to everyone who reads this posters frequent posts on distance, it’s two minutes difference between HMS and cooper and 9 between hhs and Langley. Even less for folks to the East and North of Forestville.

It doesn’t save any transportation costs, but this poster repeats it because that’s all she’s got.

The two situations aren’t similar, and moving McNair to Herndon leaves Westfield without any AAP center at the ES level.

Of course that doesn’t matter to Langley families who will defend their 10 mile or more commutes to the death and already have two ES AAP centers and a MS AAP center.

Seems quite similar. Forestvilles center school is out of the pyramid. For middle school Herndon goes to Hughes. McNair and Coates are far away from Westfield. Much much closer to Herndon. Same argument that people throw at Langley families. You just don’t like it because it either affects you or doesn’t fix the problem they want Langley families to fix in Herndon

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Isn’t McNair 2x as far to Westfield as Herndon? Is there a chance in the boundary review that more of Coates goes to McNair and then McNair shifts to Herndon pyramid? McNair to Westfield is 8 miles versus four to Herndon. That’s like the distance people are angry about for Langley versus Herndon . Both Coates and McNair are so far from Westfield

Except kids over 10 miles from Langley are going there when Herndon is less than half the distance.

Also, McNair is the only AAP Center ES in the Westfield pyramid. Clearview is already an AAP Center ES in the Herndon pyramid.

There you are again, pretending like distance equates to savings. A reminder to everyone who reads this posters frequent posts on distance, it’s two minutes difference between HMS and cooper and 9 between hhs and Langley. Even less for folks to the East and North of Forestville.

It doesn’t save any transportation costs, but this poster repeats it because that’s all she’s got.

The two situations aren’t similar, and moving McNair to Herndon leaves Westfield without any AAP center at the ES level.

Of course that doesn’t matter to Langley families who will defend their 10 mile or more commutes to the death and already have two ES AAP centers and a MS AAP center.

Seems quite similar. Forestvilles center school is out of the pyramid. For middle school Herndon goes to Hughes. McNair and Coates are far away from Westfield. Much much closer to Herndon. Same argument that people throw at Langley families. You just don’t like it because it either affects you or doesn’t fix the problem they want Langley families to fix in Herndon

These are the types of situations they are trying to clean up, not perpetuate, much less create.

And the distance of these Westfield feeders to Westfield is not as great as the distance of Forestville to Langley.

Neither the facts nor the goals of the boundary review are on your side here.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Isn’t McNair 2x as far to Westfield as Herndon? Is there a chance in the boundary review that more of Coates goes to McNair and then McNair shifts to Herndon pyramid? McNair to Westfield is 8 miles versus four to Herndon. That’s like the distance people are angry about for Langley versus Herndon . Both Coates and McNair are so far from Westfield

Except kids over 10 miles from Langley are going there when Herndon is less than half the distance.

Also, McNair is the only AAP Center ES in the Westfield pyramid. Clearview is already an AAP Center ES in the Herndon pyramid.

There you are again, pretending like distance equates to savings. A reminder to everyone who reads this posters frequent posts on distance, it’s two minutes difference between HMS and cooper and 9 between hhs and Langley. Even less for folks to the East and North of Forestville.

It doesn’t save any transportation costs, but this poster repeats it because that’s all she’s got.

The two situations aren’t similar, and moving McNair to Herndon leaves Westfield without any AAP center at the ES level.

Of course that doesn’t matter to Langley families who will defend their 10 mile or more commutes to the death and already have two ES AAP centers and a MS AAP center.

Seems quite similar. Forestvilles center school is out of the pyramid. For middle school Herndon goes to Hughes. McNair and Coates are far away from Westfield. Much much closer to Herndon. Same argument that people throw at Langley families. You just don’t like it because it either affects you or doesn’t fix the problem they want Langley families to fix in Herndon

These are the types of situations they are trying to clean up, not perpetuate, much less create.

And the distance of these Westfield feeders to Westfield is not as great as the distance of Forestville to Langley.

Neither the facts nor the goals of the boundary review are on your side here.

I don’t think you’re right. Coates is overcrowded. McNair is not. Coates already partially goes to Herndon. Herndon is under capacity. Westfield is almost at 100%. If they are going to shift Chantilly anywhere it’s Westfield. So Westfield needs more room. The distance between the schools is not much different than the forestville homes to Langley or Herndon. It’s a great disparity when you compare forestville families to Herndon middle instead of cooper. You’re just seeing what you want to see

I agree with a previous poster that centers need to go away. If you want to save on transportation stop bussing kids to centers when almost every school has level 4 AAP. Just put level 4 in the schools that don’t currently have it. Get rid of centers. Stop bussing kids out of pyramids and away from schools close to them. Save money.