Blake Lively- Jason Baldoni and NYT - False Light claims

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Anonymous wrote:She is quickly going to piss off the judge. And confirms once again, her lawyers are mid, at best.


Who would you suggest here?


Quinn Emmanuel


Bryan Freedman lol
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:So RR called JB’s agent and told him JB was a sexual predator and then he was dropped by his agency. It really seems to be that JB suffered the damages here. Nothing he did was even remotely the behavior of a sexual predator.


But isn’t RR legally allowed to do that (free speech and all that)?


WTAF.


I know there’s a difference between when something crosses over into slander—I guess I just wasn’t sure where that line is. I guess it matters if he was saying it’s his opinion versus a fact?


An Opinion you share about someone is only defensible if it is based on verifiable facts. This was defamatory. Plain and simple.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So RR called JB’s agent and told him JB was a sexual predator and then he was dropped by his agency. It really seems to be that JB suffered the damages here. Nothing he did was even remotely the behavior of a sexual predator.


But isn’t RR legally allowed to do that (free speech and all that)?


I'm no lawyer, but I don't think you can make false accusations that cause someone to get fired, no.


I think you can if it's a matter of opinion and you genuinely believe it.

Baldoni could argue that his agent should have done some due diligence on the claim before dropping him. I would guess it would depend on what his contract with the agency says.

Also, while industry parlance is that the agent "fired" Baldoni as a client, technically Baldoni is the boss and the agency is the employee. So it's more like they quit. Which you are allowed to do.

Baldoni still might have a defamation claim here, as well as a tortious interference claim, but I think they'll have to prove Reynold's didn't believe the claims, and that might be hard.


People on here are really not under legal issues.

It will be easy to prove Reynolds’s didn’t believe or had no reason to believe JB was a sexual predator if there are no facts supporting that he was one. Which there doesn’t seem to be.

Defamation law doesn’t protect for people saying ‘my opinion is that Bob is a serial killer’ unless there are some solid facts pointing to that being a *reasonable* conclusion. And typically the greater the negativity of the statement, the more the facts have to be sound and verifiable.
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^ understanding
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Bryan Freedman ain’t F’ing around. He had the website drop before Judge Liman meets them Monday. (Same info but the URL is amusing to me).

https://www.thelawsuitinfo.com/


I can't understand why anyone would want to work with BL or be friends with her after this. Aren't they afraid of how she'll make their life truly miserable if they don't give her what she wants and upset her?
Anonymous
Hubris. The major religions warn against it, as do the major literary works. Blake and Ryan thought that because Baldoni was a pushover they could easily destroy him. And maybe they will, but it won’t end well for them either.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I was following this drama since this summer - just how weird it was that the entire case was so public in their shunning of Baldoni. Now, even if you take Lively’s complaint as 100% correct, it still doesn’t make any sense what they all did. Maybe if you had an abusive director who was screaming at them, throwing things, etc. But there is nothing like that. Are we really to believe that Baldoni, Heath, the billionaire guy all just walked around the set ogling all the ladies and making it a terrible and tense work environment? Why did the guy who played Atlas tag the article and say - for gods sake read this - or whatever? I’m super confused by the cast and frankly this looks bad for them too. Seeing the clear creative takeover of the movie and them lining up solidly behind her - who wants to hire Jenny Slate or the other cast members if you can’t trust them either?




I agree 💯 and that's never made sense to me.
Anonymous
If Reynolds literally went around telling studios "Baldoni is a sexual predator, don't hire him" that's grounds for defamation and tortious interference.

If it was "My wife was very uncomfortable working with Baldoni on set. It was a terrible experience and she/we wouldn't work with him again" that is probably legally protected opinion.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So RR called JB’s agent and told him JB was a sexual predator and then he was dropped by his agency. It really seems to be that JB suffered the damages here. Nothing he did was even remotely the behavior of a sexual predator.


But isn’t RR legally allowed to do that (free speech and all that)?


I'm no lawyer, but I don't think you can make false accusations that cause someone to get fired, no.


I think you can if it's a matter of opinion and you genuinely believe it.

Baldoni could argue that his agent should have done some due diligence on the claim before dropping him. I would guess it would depend on what his contract with the agency says.

Also, while industry parlance is that the agent "fired" Baldoni as a client, technically Baldoni is the boss and the agency is the employee. So it's more like they quit. Which you are allowed to do.

Baldoni still might have a defamation claim here, as well as a tortious interference claim, but I think they'll have to prove Reynold's didn't believe the claims, and that might be hard.


People on here are really not under legal issues.

It will be easy to prove Reynolds’s didn’t believe or had no reason to believe JB was a sexual predator if there are no facts supporting that he was one. Which there doesn’t seem to be.

Defamation law doesn’t protect for people saying ‘my opinion is that Bob is a serial killer’ unless there are some solid facts pointing to that being a *reasonable* conclusion. And typically the greater the negativity of the statement, the more the facts have to be sound and verifiable.


Lots of us aren’t lawyers but are trying to understand. So, what if she comes home and tells RR that JB did all these things (called her sexy, said “it’s so hot” as he dragged his lips on her, talked about having nonconsensual sex) and RR then thinks he’s a predator and tells people? If BL mischaracterized events, is she then responsible for RR’s actions?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I was following this drama since this summer - just how weird it was that the entire case was so public in their shunning of Baldoni. Now, even if you take Lively’s complaint as 100% correct, it still doesn’t make any sense what they all did. Maybe if you had an abusive director who was screaming at them, throwing things, etc. But there is nothing like that. Are we really to believe that Baldoni, Heath, the billionaire guy all just walked around the set ogling all the ladies and making it a terrible and tense work environment? Why did the guy who played Atlas tag the article and say - for gods sake read this - or whatever? I’m super confused by the cast and frankly this looks bad for them too. Seeing the clear creative takeover of the movie and them lining up solidly behind her - who wants to hire Jenny Slate or the other cast members if you can’t trust them either?




Can you explain what happened with the guy who played atlas? I think I missed that.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I was following this drama since this summer - just how weird it was that the entire case was so public in their shunning of Baldoni. Now, even if you take Lively’s complaint as 100% correct, it still doesn’t make any sense what they all did. Maybe if you had an abusive director who was screaming at them, throwing things, etc. But there is nothing like that. Are we really to believe that Baldoni, Heath, the billionaire guy all just walked around the set ogling all the ladies and making it a terrible and tense work environment? Why did the guy who played Atlas tag the article and say - for gods sake read this - or whatever? I’m super confused by the cast and frankly this looks bad for them too. Seeing the clear creative takeover of the movie and them lining up solidly behind her - who wants to hire Jenny Slate or the other cast members if you can’t trust them either?




Can you explain what happened with the guy who played atlas? I think I missed that.


Never mind. I found it.

I think the NYT article really legitimized BL’s complaint. The way it was written just made it sound like JB was the lowest scum of the earth. I think everyone’s reaction was to instantly throw their support at her. (Or, there’s way more to the story—in which case it’s really odd that nobody has said anything to corroborate. But maybe that will come out at the trial.)
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I was following this drama since this summer - just how weird it was that the entire case was so public in their shunning of Baldoni. Now, even if you take Lively’s complaint as 100% correct, it still doesn’t make any sense what they all did. Maybe if you had an abusive director who was screaming at them, throwing things, etc. But there is nothing like that. Are we really to believe that Baldoni, Heath, the billionaire guy all just walked around the set ogling all the ladies and making it a terrible and tense work environment? Why did the guy who played Atlas tag the article and say - for gods sake read this - or whatever? I’m super confused by the cast and frankly this looks bad for them too. Seeing the clear creative takeover of the movie and them lining up solidly behind her - who wants to hire Jenny Slate or the other cast members if you can’t trust them either?




Can you explain what happened with the guy who played atlas? I think I missed that.


Never mind. I found it.

I think the NYT article really legitimized BL’s complaint. The way it was written just made it sound like JB was the lowest scum of the earth. I think everyone’s reaction was to instantly throw their support at her. (Or, there’s way more to the story—in which case it’s really odd that nobody has said anything to corroborate. But maybe that will come out at the trial.)


From a quick glance at subreddits like popculturechat and fauxmoi, there are some people who never moved past thinking he’s a creep based on the NYT article, despite everything that came out after.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I was following this drama since this summer - just how weird it was that the entire case was so public in their shunning of Baldoni. Now, even if you take Lively’s complaint as 100% correct, it still doesn’t make any sense what they all did. Maybe if you had an abusive director who was screaming at them, throwing things, etc. But there is nothing like that. Are we really to believe that Baldoni, Heath, the billionaire guy all just walked around the set ogling all the ladies and making it a terrible and tense work environment? Why did the guy who played Atlas tag the article and say - for gods sake read this - or whatever? I’m super confused by the cast and frankly this looks bad for them too. Seeing the clear creative takeover of the movie and them lining up solidly behind her - who wants to hire Jenny Slate or the other cast members if you can’t trust them either?




Can you explain what happened with the guy who played atlas? I think I missed that.


Never mind. I found it.

I think the NYT article really legitimized BL’s complaint. The way it was written just made it sound like JB was the lowest scum of the earth. I think everyone’s reaction was to instantly throw their support at her. (Or, there’s way more to the story—in which case it’s really odd that nobody has said anything to corroborate. But maybe that will come out at the trial.)


From a quick glance at subreddits like popculturechat and fauxmoi, there are some people who never moved past thinking he’s a creep based on the NYT article, despite everything that came out after.


Right. For these posters, defending one's self is apparently an admission of guilt.
Anonymous
Can someone link to Baldoni's original complaint document?
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