Does anyone hate how competitive the world has become?

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That billion dollars can get you the best coaching, and that makes a big difference.

Both Langley HS boys & girls tennis won the state championship this year. How many of the top six starters have private lessons and clinics? Probably all of them. Keep in mind that you can't play tennis outside in winter, so it requires indoor facilities, and that takes money. Tennis might be cheaper than golf, but it is still expensive.


The post said a poor student couldn’t make varsity with no experience. That was ridiculous because no student could make varsity with no experience.

A poor student who went to the public court every day and took lessons in parks and rec, played with people who could teach her, was a natural powerhouse could make varsity.


If you place that "poor" student with a "rich" student, and both have exactly the same natural ability and work ethics, that "rich" student will make the varsity team while the "poor" student will NOT. That's how money can get you.u.


My kid is on that tennis team and went to states. I honestly couldn’t tell you how much training each kid had. My kid has played tennis his entire life.

I know some kids who have also played their entire lives and did not make the team so just because you have coaching doesn’t mean you will make the team. Also know many kids who got cut from soccer, basketball and baseball who have played all their lives.


I know a couple kids that started tennis in 9th grade and then played at D3 schools.


Fake news unless it’s like Gettysburg college


NP. I know one as well. And our HS team is horrible. They are playing at Shenandoah.


I am the pp who said my kid had a young coach start late. Who knows if he played at a school like Shenandoah. He coaches kids and is the “pro”.


Ok any Tom Dick and Harry can be a “pro” then
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That billion dollars can get you the best coaching, and that makes a big difference.

Both Langley HS boys & girls tennis won the state championship this year. How many of the top six starters have private lessons and clinics? Probably all of them. Keep in mind that you can't play tennis outside in winter, so it requires indoor facilities, and that takes money. Tennis might be cheaper than golf, but it is still expensive.


The post said a poor student couldn’t make varsity with no experience. That was ridiculous because no student could make varsity with no experience.

A poor student who went to the public court every day and took lessons in parks and rec, played with people who could teach her, was a natural powerhouse could make varsity.


If you place that "poor" student with a "rich" student, and both have exactly the same natural ability and work ethics, that "rich" student will make the varsity team while the "poor" student will NOT. That's how money can get you.u.


My kid is on that tennis team and went to states. I honestly couldn’t tell you how much training each kid had. My kid has played tennis his entire life.

I know some kids who have also played their entire lives and did not make the team so just because you have coaching doesn’t mean you will make the team. Also know many kids who got cut from soccer, basketball and baseball who have played all their lives.


I know a couple kids that started tennis in 9th grade and then played at D3 schools.


Fake news unless it’s like Gettysburg college


NP. I know one as well. And our HS team is horrible. They are playing at Shenandoah.


I am the pp who said my kid had a young coach start late. Who knows if he played at a school like Shenandoah. He coaches kids and is the “pro”.


Ok any Tom Dick and Harry can be a “pro” then


I wrote before that my tennis son has been told he can play college tennis and I said he won’t likely be on a school at an Ivy or T20. I am sure there are many schools he could play for but he would choose the better academic college.

Some person posted about their kid getting a job at UMich football or I can’t remember and too lazy to scroll back. Every kid and family has different circumstances and reasons on why they choose their path.
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That billion dollars can get you the best coaching, and that makes a big difference.

Both Langley HS boys & girls tennis won the state championship this year. How many of the top six starters have private lessons and clinics? Probably all of them. Keep in mind that you can't play tennis outside in winter, so it requires indoor facilities, and that takes money. Tennis might be cheaper than golf, but it is still expensive.


The post said a poor student couldn’t make varsity with no experience. That was ridiculous because no student could make varsity with no experience.

A poor student who went to the public court every day and took lessons in parks and rec, played with people who could teach her, was a natural powerhouse could make varsity.


If you place that "poor" student with a "rich" student, and both have exactly the same natural ability and work ethics, that "rich" student will make the varsity team while the "poor" student will NOT. That's how money can get you.u.


My kid is on that tennis team and went to states. I honestly couldn’t tell you how much training each kid had. My kid has played tennis his entire life.

I know some kids who have also played their entire lives and did not make the team so just because you have coaching doesn’t mean you will make the team. Also know many kids who got cut from soccer, basketball and baseball who have played all their lives.


I know a couple kids that started tennis in 9th grade and then played at D3 schools.


Fake news unless it’s like Gettysburg college


NP. I know one as well. And our HS team is horrible. They are playing at Shenandoah.


I am the pp who said my kid had a young coach start late. Who knows if he played at a school like Shenandoah. He coaches kids and is the “pro”.


Ok any Tom Dick and Harry can be a “pro” then


I wrote before that my tennis son has been told he can play college tennis and I said he won’t likely be on a school at an Ivy or T20. I am sure there are many schools he could play for but he would choose the better academic college.

Some person posted about their kid getting a job at UMich football or I can’t remember and too lazy to scroll back. Every kid and family has different circumstances and reasons on why they choose their path.


It was probably not UMIch but a different large university since UMich is also a well regarded academic institution.
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That billion dollars can get you the best coaching, and that makes a big difference.

Both Langley HS boys & girls tennis won the state championship this year. How many of the top six starters have private lessons and clinics? Probably all of them. Keep in mind that you can't play tennis outside in winter, so it requires indoor facilities, and that takes money. Tennis might be cheaper than golf, but it is still expensive.


The post said a poor student couldn’t make varsity with no experience. That was ridiculous because no student could make varsity with no experience.

A poor student who went to the public court every day and took lessons in parks and rec, played with people who could teach her, was a natural powerhouse could make varsity.


If you place that "poor" student with a "rich" student, and both have exactly the same natural ability and work ethics, that "rich" student will make the varsity team while the "poor" student will NOT. That's how money can get you.u.


My kid is on that tennis team and went to states. I honestly couldn’t tell you how much training each kid had. My kid has played tennis his entire life.

I know some kids who have also played their entire lives and did not make the team so just because you have coaching doesn’t mean you will make the team. Also know many kids who got cut from soccer, basketball and baseball who have played all their lives.


I know a couple kids that started tennis in 9th grade and then played at D3 schools.


Fake news unless it’s like Gettysburg college


NP. I know one as well. And our HS team is horrible. They are playing at Shenandoah.


I am the pp who said my kid had a young coach start late. Who knows if he played at a school like Shenandoah. He coaches kids and is the “pro”.


Ok any Tom Dick and Harry can be a “pro” then


I wrote before that my tennis son has been told he can play college tennis and I said he won’t likely be on a school at an Ivy or T20. I am sure there are many schools he could play for but he would choose the better academic college.

Some person posted about their kid getting a job at UMich football or I can’t remember and too lazy to scroll back. Every kid and family has different circumstances and reasons on why they choose their path.


Maybe he can play for shenandoah amirite?
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That billion dollars can get you the best coaching, and that makes a big difference.

Both Langley HS boys & girls tennis won the state championship this year. How many of the top six starters have private lessons and clinics? Probably all of them. Keep in mind that you can't play tennis outside in winter, so it requires indoor facilities, and that takes money. Tennis might be cheaper than golf, but it is still expensive.


The post said a poor student couldn’t make varsity with no experience. That was ridiculous because no student could make varsity with no experience.

A poor student who went to the public court every day and took lessons in parks and rec, played with people who could teach her, was a natural powerhouse could make varsity.


If you place that "poor" student with a "rich" student, and both have exactly the same natural ability and work ethics, that "rich" student will make the varsity team while the "poor" student will NOT. That's how money can get you.u.


My kid is on that tennis team and went to states. I honestly couldn’t tell you how much training each kid had. My kid has played tennis his entire life.

I know some kids who have also played their entire lives and did not make the team so just because you have coaching doesn’t mean you will make the team. Also know many kids who got cut from soccer, basketball and baseball who have played all their lives.


I know a couple kids that started tennis in 9th grade and then played at D3 schools.


Fake news unless it’s like Gettysburg college


NP. I know one as well. And our HS team is horrible. They are playing at Shenandoah.


I am the pp who said my kid had a young coach start late. Who knows if he played at a school like Shenandoah. He coaches kids and is the “pro”.


Ok any Tom Dick and Harry can be a “pro” then


I wrote before that my tennis son has been told he can play college tennis and I said he won’t likely be on a school at an Ivy or T20. I am sure there are many schools he could play for but he would choose the better academic college.

Some person posted about their kid getting a job at UMich football or I can’t remember and too lazy to scroll back. Every kid and family has different circumstances and reasons on why they choose their path.


Maybe he can play for shenandoah amirite?


Yes, he could if he wanted. He is aiming for T10 schools though.
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That billion dollars can get you the best coaching, and that makes a big difference.

Both Langley HS boys & girls tennis won the state championship this year. How many of the top six starters have private lessons and clinics? Probably all of them. Keep in mind that you can't play tennis outside in winter, so it requires indoor facilities, and that takes money. Tennis might be cheaper than golf, but it is still expensive.


The post said a poor student couldn’t make varsity with no experience. That was ridiculous because no student could make varsity with no experience.

A poor student who went to the public court every day and took lessons in parks and rec, played with people who could teach her, was a natural powerhouse could make varsity.


If you place that "poor" student with a "rich" student, and both have exactly the same natural ability and work ethics, that "rich" student will make the varsity team while the "poor" student will NOT. That's how money can get you.u.


My kid is on that tennis team and went to states. I honestly couldn’t tell you how much training each kid had. My kid has played tennis his entire life.

I know some kids who have also played their entire lives and did not make the team so just because you have coaching doesn’t mean you will make the team. Also know many kids who got cut from soccer, basketball and baseball who have played all their lives.


I know a couple kids that started tennis in 9th grade and then played at D3 schools.


Fake news unless it’s like Gettysburg college


NP. I know one as well. And our HS team is horrible. They are playing at Shenandoah.


I am the pp who said my kid had a young coach start late. Who knows if he played at a school like Shenandoah. He coaches kids and is the “pro”.


Ok any Tom Dick and Harry can be a “pro” then


I wrote before that my tennis son has been told he can play college tennis and I said he won’t likely be on a school at an Ivy or T20. I am sure there are many schools he could play for but he would choose the better academic college.

Some person posted about their kid getting a job at UMich football or I can’t remember and too lazy to scroll back. Every kid and family has different circumstances and reasons on why they choose their path.


Maybe he can play for shenandoah amirite?


Yes, he could if he wanted. He is aiming for T10 schools though.


Well only ones are MIT and Cal Tech that he could play on and they are strictly merit based. Good luck!
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That billion dollars can get you the best coaching, and that makes a big difference.

Both Langley HS boys & girls tennis won the state championship this year. How many of the top six starters have private lessons and clinics? Probably all of them. Keep in mind that you can't play tennis outside in winter, so it requires indoor facilities, and that takes money. Tennis might be cheaper than golf, but it is still expensive.


The post said a poor student couldn’t make varsity with no experience. That was ridiculous because no student could make varsity with no experience.

A poor student who went to the public court every day and took lessons in parks and rec, played with people who could teach her, was a natural powerhouse could make varsity.


If you place that "poor" student with a "rich" student, and both have exactly the same natural ability and work ethics, that "rich" student will make the varsity team while the "poor" student will NOT. That's how money can get you.u.


My kid is on that tennis team and went to states. I honestly couldn’t tell you how much training each kid had. My kid has played tennis his entire life.

I know some kids who have also played their entire lives and did not make the team so just because you have coaching doesn’t mean you will make the team. Also know many kids who got cut from soccer, basketball and baseball who have played all their lives.


I know a couple kids that started tennis in 9th grade and then played at D3 schools.


Fake news unless it’s like Gettysburg college


NP. I know one as well. And our HS team is horrible. They are playing at Shenandoah.


I am the pp who said my kid had a young coach start late. Who knows if he played at a school like Shenandoah. He coaches kids and is the “pro”.


Ok any Tom Dick and Harry can be a “pro” then


I wrote before that my tennis son has been told he can play college tennis and I said he won’t likely be on a school at an Ivy or T20. I am sure there are many schools he could play for but he would choose the better academic college.

Some person posted about their kid getting a job at UMich football or I can’t remember and too lazy to scroll back. Every kid and family has different circumstances and reasons on why they choose their path.


Maybe he can play for shenandoah amirite?


Yes, he could if he wanted. He is aiming for T10 schools though.


Well only ones are MIT and Cal Tech that he could play on and they are strictly merit based. Good luck!


I have already said he won’t be playing college tennis. He does not expect to. I don’t expect him to. Deep down, I’m sure my DH would like him to but not in place of attending a better college.
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For all of us who belong in one or more categories - non-White, non-Christian, different national origin - life and world has always been competitive and hard.


The world is hard for everyone, you think it's because of your national origin but the truth is that is the lie certain powers want you to buy into, Do you really believe there is no poor white people or Christian people?
I am a widow my husband passed away when our child was only four now I have been blessed because I have made sacrifices so that I can send my daughter to private school, this includes not having had a car for two years, I have and never will own a pair of brand name shoes, my clothes I shop for at thrift stores. I felt and still do feel very judged around some of the parents my daughter goes to school with oddly enough the worst one of these judgemental snobs turned out to be a heroine addict but from the outside it appeared her life was perfect husband is an attorney beautiful home 3 children expensive cars. This woman had the audacity to judge me as a widowed mother yet she was shooting up. My point is just because it may seem one way to you does not mean it actually is that way.
As for the country of origin statement, too many schools seem to conveniently omit certain facts like how the Irish and Italians were treated way back in the day many of them worked for railroads or coal mining companies from sun up to sundown they were paid very very little with coal mining they were paid with " company money" money that could only be used at the company store and you can bet that it was ridiculously over priced. Many Italian and Irish immigrants were treated almost as badly as slaves.
My grandfather was straight off the boat Italian granted he was a baby at the time his parents came over but my grandfather experienced racial slurs and racism he was often called a WOP ((derogatory term for an Italian)) He fought in WW2 so please go ahead and tell me how hard the world is for just non -white Christian people again and how "easy" they have it.
Everyone has struggles this World is fallen so to think a certain people have it easier then others based on their origin or religion is plain ignorance you will never know just as I will never know what it's like to walk a mile in your shoes. The World is fallen and there is a lot of greed and power hungry powers that be, that want to convince us peasants that it's easier for this segment of a certain population versus the other. The fact is everything has started to become "Elitist" and very few people are part of that club.
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If you place that "poor" student with a "rich" student, and both have exactly the same natural ability and work ethics, that "rich" student will make the varsity team while the "poor" student will NOT. That's how money can get you.u.


My kid is on that tennis team and went to states. I honestly couldn’t tell you how much training each kid had. My kid has played tennis his entire life.

I know some kids who have also played their entire lives and did not make the team so just because you have coaching doesn’t mean you will make the team. Also know many kids who got cut from soccer, basketball and baseball who have played all their lives.


You have to compare Apple to Apple, and not Apple to Orange. If you have two kids, A & B, and assume that both kids have the exact natural abilities. If kid A has money to get expensive/better coaching and works just as hard as kid B; However, kid B does not have the resources to get the expensive coaching that kid A does, kid A will make the team and kid B will not.

If everyone is working hard, and has resources to get the best coaches money can buy, at that point, it comes down to natural abilities. But money does matter.


If two students have the same natural abilities and one was able to train with a private coach and the other wasn’t it will be noticed. But usually one of them has something that the other is missing. One of them just has it and it can’t be ignored. It might be either one of them but it wasn’t the excessive training. It’s this potential that the team coach can bring out.

Too many parents think sports are like a math class. With enough training you can learn it and do well in it and be a top student. But sports are different. A natural athlete will be playing a lacrosse game within a week. The average athletes will need to learn the basics a lot slower.
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Anonymous wrote:Many retire and play competitive pickleball now. It’s pretty funny these tall retired professional athletes.

My friends kids go to private school in Miami with a ton of professional Athletes’ kids. Some of the flashy wives were the biggest dynamic to get used to. And no one there cared about Covid.



It was Florida, what did you expect?
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So this thread is all about sports now.
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Anonymous wrote:So this thread is all about sports now.


Of course. Priorities, people!
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I blame it mostly on boys and toxic masculinity.
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Anonymous wrote:I blame it mostly on boys and toxic masculinity.


I blame it on your mum
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Anonymous wrote:So this thread is all about sports now.


This is in this area sports are the things that the UMC strivers can’t just throw enough money at to allow their kids to “compete” if the kids are just not athletes. (Which look around at your fellow parents- they’re not.)

Academics aren’t such a huge concern to this demographic, in that the kids probably have a baseline level of intelligence such that some extra tutoring can easily close any gaps. But the genes passed down from their uncoordinated, short, dork fathers can’t be so easily overcome on the court or on the field. And it infuriates them.
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