Thanks to the bike party organizers!

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Anonymous wrote:saw a woman on a bike this evening with two kids abroad approach a four way stop intersection.

there were already two other cars at the intersection, each stopped at their respective stop signs and waiting to go through, before she had even reached the intersection.

and yet she just barreled on through the intersection at full speed, expecting everyone else to just wait on her. one car had to slam on its breaks.

feel bad for her kids. she is going to get them (and herself) killed.

bicyclists have no idea how idaho stops work, do they? or do they just not care?

If bicyclists were required to actually follow the rules of Idaho stops, no one would bike. They'd have to stop and start at the end of virtually every block and they'd get so tired out, they'd just stop riding.

Unlike people who drive cars and don't come to full stops, right?

Not really getting the comparison. Maybe once a year, I see a driver blow a stop sign without even attempting to stop. I see cyclists do that literally every day.

This is where you lose all credibility.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:saw a woman on a bike this evening with two kids abroad approach a four way stop intersection.

there were already two other cars at the intersection, each stopped at their respective stop signs and waiting to go through, before she had even reached the intersection.

and yet she just barreled on through the intersection at full speed, expecting everyone else to just wait on her. one car had to slam on its breaks.

feel bad for her kids. she is going to get them (and herself) killed.

bicyclists have no idea how idaho stops work, do they? or do they just not care?

I drive and I've lost count how many bicyclists' lives I've saved by slamming on the breaks to avoid hitting bicyclists flying through intersections where they definitely did not have the right of way.

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Anonymous wrote:saw a woman on a bike this evening with two kids abroad approach a four way stop intersection.

there were already two other cars at the intersection, each stopped at their respective stop signs and waiting to go through, before she had even reached the intersection.

and yet she just barreled on through the intersection at full speed, expecting everyone else to just wait on her. one car had to slam on its breaks.

feel bad for her kids. she is going to get them (and herself) killed.

bicyclists have no idea how idaho stops work, do they? or do they just not care?

If bicyclists were required to actually follow the rules of Idaho stops, no one would bike. They'd have to stop and start at the end of virtually every block and they'd get so tired out, they'd just stop riding.

Unlike people who drive cars and don't come to full stops, right?

Not really getting the comparison. Maybe once a year, I see a driver blow a stop sign without even attempting to stop. I see cyclists do that literally every day.

I'm guessing you define a stop in the same way a PP said "10 miles over isn't really speeding?" No one comes to a complete stop around here unless there is something already in the intersection. Since Covid, many drivers are just tapping brakes before sailing through. Beyond that, cars regularly blow stop signs, especially during off hours.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:saw a woman on a bike this evening with two kids abroad approach a four way stop intersection.

there were already two other cars at the intersection, each stopped at their respective stop signs and waiting to go through, before she had even reached the intersection.

and yet she just barreled on through the intersection at full speed, expecting everyone else to just wait on her. one car had to slam on its breaks.

feel bad for her kids. she is going to get them (and herself) killed.

bicyclists have no idea how idaho stops work, do they? or do they just not care?

I drive and I've lost count how many bicyclists' lives I've saved by slamming on the breaks to avoid hitting bicyclists flying through intersections where they definitely did not have the right of way.

Plenty of people can say that about cars as well. Who hasn't had to slam their breaks to avoid hitting a car doing something illegal? The difference is no one really complains about that for some reason.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:saw a woman on a bike this evening with two kids abroad approach a four way stop intersection.

there were already two other cars at the intersection, each stopped at their respective stop signs and waiting to go through, before she had even reached the intersection.

and yet she just barreled on through the intersection at full speed, expecting everyone else to just wait on her. one car had to slam on its breaks.

feel bad for her kids. she is going to get them (and herself) killed.

bicyclists have no idea how idaho stops work, do they? or do they just not care?

If you're on a bike and you get hit by a car, there's a pretty good chance you're going to die, and yet we have essentially no rules about kids being on bikes.

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Anonymous wrote:saw a woman on a bike this evening with two kids abroad approach a four way stop intersection.

there were already two other cars at the intersection, each stopped at their respective stop signs and waiting to go through, before she had even reached the intersection.

and yet she just barreled on through the intersection at full speed, expecting everyone else to just wait on her. one car had to slam on its breaks.

feel bad for her kids. she is going to get them (and herself) killed.

bicyclists have no idea how idaho stops work, do they? or do they just not care?

They don't care. They've been radicalized and think of it as civil disobedience.

There are comparisons to the shrill pro-Palestinian demonstrators: self-righteous, uncompromising, dogmatic virtue signallers.

And both want to put an end to needless death?

A needless death could also be caused by some idiot with their kids in a trailer behind them disregarding traffic laws and sailing through the city without turning their heads. Who are all these people being forced at gun point to ride bikes so close to all these insane drivers who NEVER stop at signs or lights? In all seriousness cyclists have other options if they feel unsafe in car traffic just as they suggest car drivers do. No we're not spending millions on building MORE infrastructure to accomodate you and your ten friends at the expense of thousands of other commuters. Were you all actually raised to believe that whatever you want, you get? I learned that wasn't true in kindergarten.

All transportation infrastructure is a "If you build it, they will come" type deal. So it simply becomes a question of how do you want this city to look like in the future. If you build for cars, you will get cars and if you build for walking/bikes/transit you will get more of that.

We have a century of experience of building for cars, and frankly the results are not good. Even drivers don't like driving these days. But for some reason, drivers remain firmly committed to something they hate doing. Its a behavior that's hard to explain and bike/transit/walking people just don't get it.

At the very least, you would think rational drivers would be the main supporters of things like bike lanes, and transit because of the traffic it would remove. But here they are, getting red in the face, insisting that these people get in cars and jam up the roads with them. It’s insanity.

When are they coming to the bike lanes on Old Georgetown Road? Rational drivers don’t like having irrational cyclists playing frogger for fun. We wish to take no part in your death wishes and spending $ on infrastructure that accommodates the minority at the expense of the majority makes no sense at all. It’s insanity.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:saw a woman on a bike this evening with two kids abroad approach a four way stop intersection.

there were already two other cars at the intersection, each stopped at their respective stop signs and waiting to go through, before she had even reached the intersection.

and yet she just barreled on through the intersection at full speed, expecting everyone else to just wait on her. one car had to slam on its breaks.

feel bad for her kids. she is going to get them (and herself) killed.

bicyclists have no idea how idaho stops work, do they? or do they just not care?

They don't care. They've been radicalized and think of it as civil disobedience.

There are comparisons to the shrill pro-Palestinian demonstrators: self-righteous, uncompromising, dogmatic virtue signallers.

And both want to put an end to needless death?

A needless death could also be caused by some idiot with their kids in a trailer behind them disregarding traffic laws and sailing through the city without turning their heads. Who are all these people being forced at gun point to ride bikes so close to all these insane drivers who NEVER stop at signs or lights? In all seriousness cyclists have other options if they feel unsafe in car traffic just as they suggest car drivers do. No we're not spending millions on building MORE infrastructure to accomodate you and your ten friends at the expense of thousands of other commuters. Were you all actually raised to believe that whatever you want, you get? I learned that wasn't true in kindergarten.

All transportation infrastructure is a "If you build it, they will come" type deal. So it simply becomes a question of how do you want this city to look like in the future. If you build for cars, you will get cars and if you build for walking/bikes/transit you will get more of that.

We have a century of experience of building for cars, and frankly the results are not good. Even drivers don't like driving these days. But for some reason, drivers remain firmly committed to something they hate doing. Its a behavior that's hard to explain and bike/transit/walking people just don't get it.

At the very least, you would think rational drivers would be the main supporters of things like bike lanes, and transit because of the traffic it would remove. But here they are, getting red in the face, insisting that these people get in cars and jam up the roads with them. It’s insanity.

When are they coming to the bike lanes on Old Georgetown Road? Rational drivers don’t like having irrational cyclists playing frogger for fun. We wish to take no part in your death wishes and spending $ on infrastructure that accommodates the minority at the expense of the majority makes no sense at all. It’s insanity.

You do realize that for DC residents, car commuters are a minority right? They don't get a minority of transportation spending though.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:CM Allen just said he supports the Conn. Ave bike lane.

Sort of seems like it's too late for that? I support them, too, but time to move on and get (even) better at biking in traffic, I guess.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t know why people who operate their bikes as forms of transportation don’t have to carry insurance. Boats, planes, trucks, cars, vehicles that are used as transport must carry insurance. Why don’t bike operators?

Bike riders are using public roads for free. Register your bike. Insure your bike. The taxes paid by car and truck drivers when they purchase gasoline is used to create and repair public roadways. People who bike on public roadways are not financially contributing to the roadways but demanding usage. You don’t get to use public roadways to “exercise” when you are not contributing to the cost of establishing and maintaining public roads.

Bike riders pay taxes, the same ones that people who drive pay.
People who ride bikes exert much less wear and tear on the roads.
People who ride bikes don't spew excess carbon and pollution into the air we breathe.
People who ride bikes are generally in better health and thus not taxing the healthcare system as much.
People who ride bikes are not dependent on middle eastern oil or the follow on military/political costs.

People get their groceries on bikes? They bike to the doctor when they’re ill? They bike the kids to school with backpacks, 2-3 kids?

Yes to all three? Please open your eyes and put down your phone when driving.

You get groceries, take your children to school, on your bike? You bike to your doctor when you are sick?

How do you transport 3 kids with backpacks to and from school everyday and bike to and from work?

For our family, the kids go to different schools so one spouse takes 2 and the other takes one. Easy peasy.

Rich white people in Ward 3 are like, "Everything is so close. Why don't you just bike everywhere?"

Non-rich white people are like, "There's nothing within biking distance. We don't even have a grocery store."

+1. I have family in southeastern Kentucky. They’re poor AF and the closest thing even resembling a grocery store is 21 miles, two-mountains over, and almost an hour away by car. By bike? That’s theoretically a whole day for a round trip, assuming the average person would struggle pedaling up two mountains of ~1,500 elevation change each. That’s 6,000 feet of climbing in total for a 42 mile trip - basically that’s a stage on the Tour de France. And cyclists here expect everyone to be able to do that.

The disconnect is hilarious.

Who exactly expects everyone here to do a 42-mile, 6,000-foot climb round-trip in D.C.? Or thinks putting bike lanes in on Connecticut Avenue means your family in Kentucky need to bike to the grocery store?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:saw a woman on a bike this evening with two kids abroad approach a four way stop intersection.

there were already two other cars at the intersection, each stopped at their respective stop signs and waiting to go through, before she had even reached the intersection.

and yet she just barreled on through the intersection at full speed, expecting everyone else to just wait on her. one car had to slam on its breaks.

feel bad for her kids. she is going to get them (and herself) killed.

bicyclists have no idea how idaho stops work, do they? or do they just not care?

If bicyclists were required to actually follow the rules of Idaho stops, no one would bike. They'd have to stop and start at the end of virtually every block and they'd get so tired out, they'd just stop riding.

Unlike people who drive cars and don't come to full stops, right?

Not really getting the comparison. Maybe once a year, I see a driver blow a stop sign without even attempting to stop. I see cyclists do that literally every day.

Once a year? I see cars do this once an hour when I look out my front window at the four-way stop by my house when working from home. Slowing down to make the turn without spinning out of control isn't actually the same thing as stopping, though...

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:CM Allen just said he supports the Conn. Ave bike lane.

Sort of seems like it's too late for that? I support them, too, but time to move on and get (even) better at biking in traffic, I guess.

He supported defunding the police also.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:saw a woman on a bike this evening with two kids abroad approach a four way stop intersection.

there were already two other cars at the intersection, each stopped at their respective stop signs and waiting to go through, before she had even reached the intersection.

and yet she just barreled on through the intersection at full speed, expecting everyone else to just wait on her. one car had to slam on its breaks.

feel bad for her kids. she is going to get them (and herself) killed.

bicyclists have no idea how idaho stops work, do they? or do they just not care?

If bicyclists were required to actually follow the rules of Idaho stops, no one would bike. They'd have to stop and start at the end of virtually every block and they'd get so tired out, they'd just stop riding.

Unlike people who drive cars and don't come to full stops, right?

Not really getting the comparison. Maybe once a year, I see a driver blow a stop sign without even attempting to stop. I see cyclists do that literally every day.

I take walks through my ward 3 neighborhood every day. I can count on one hand the number of cars that come to a complete stop at stop signs over the course of a week. I see hundreds of cars. One hand.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:saw a woman on a bike this evening with two kids abroad approach a four way stop intersection.

there were already two other cars at the intersection, each stopped at their respective stop signs and waiting to go through, before she had even reached the intersection.

and yet she just barreled on through the intersection at full speed, expecting everyone else to just wait on her. one car had to slam on its breaks.

feel bad for her kids. she is going to get them (and herself) killed.

bicyclists have no idea how idaho stops work, do they? or do they just not care?

If you're on a bike and you get hit by a car, there's a pretty good chance you're going to die, and yet we have essentially no rules about kids being on bikes.

Dangerous and scary.

[Anonymous]

Let’s bubble wrap the universe for the entitled toddlers who want to drive their big wheels in traffic.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Let’s bubble wrap the universe for the entitled toddlers who want to drive their big wheels in traffic.

Or, we could provide infrastructure so kids can ride bikes safely again and help deal with the youth obesity problems.