ECNL moving to school year part 2

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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]No way. They will gladly take the August kid on the SY A team if they are good enough to make it. Clubs care about winning far more than grade alignment. [/quote]
Not when it causes drama and issues for the club.[/quote] Allowing kids to play up in bulk numbers is the drama leagues and clubs are avoiding at all costs.[/quote]
That makes no sense [/quote]It does if you run a club. Many parents don't get it for sure, they think their DC deserves special treatment, that's the drama, that's the problem. [/quote]
Kids wanting to play on teams.with other kids in their grade in school is normal. The fact that you cant see that is problematic.[/quote]

It's also normal for kids to play with different grades, now in BY and before in SY, especially in travel when you typically don't play with actual classmates. Both should happen where appropriate.[/quote]
No, playing on teams with players that are all a grade younger than your kid is not normal. In fact the entire switch back from BY to SY was done to allow more players to play on teams with other kids in their grade.[/quote]

Why would kids who are grouped by birth year/month need to be pushed into manufactured school grade groupings when school has nothing to do with travel soccer?[/quote]
Because College Coaches recruit by graduating year or grade in school.[/quote]I understand your confusion here. The point to realize is that while college coaches can only communicate with juniors or older, they don't care what age group you play in travel. All recruits just have to play well enough, do well in school and actively push to find the right college that fits. As a parent just listen to your coaches, don't listen to DCUM advice and follow only the statements that are backed up by club posted statements. Like the two clubs that said college coaches saying they will recruit kids of any age.

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Anonymous wrote:No way. They will gladly take the August kid on the SY A team if they are good enough to make it. Clubs care about winning far more than grade alignment.

Not when it causes drama and issues for the club.

Allowing kids to play up in bulk numbers is the drama leagues and clubs are avoiding at all costs.

That makes no sense

It does if you run a club. Many parents don't get it for sure, they think their DC deserves special treatment, that's the drama, that's the problem.

Kids wanting to play on teams.with other kids in their grade in school is normal. The fact that you cant see that is problematic.

It's also normal for kids to play with different grades, now in BY and before in SY, especially in travel when you typically don't play with actual classmates. Both should happen where appropriate.

No, playing on teams with players that are all a grade younger than your kid is not normal. In fact the entire switch back from BY to SY was done to allow more players to play on teams with other kids in their grade.

You want August players to compete against kids 13 months older because the school system doesn't have a standard cutoff date?

If my kid was an August birthday, yes I'd want them on a team with other players grade in school.

It's the "if" part that matters. Without an August kid, you don't get a vote on what any August kids does. Travel is 8/1 - 7/31. Thems the rules.

Nomsense I have just as valid of an opinion as any else. I also don't want grade older players on my kids team.

A club makes you a team offer. You accept or decline. Club decides other players. Grade not in travel, it is age based. All facts. Everybody has an opinion but they don't matter if you aren't a decision maker.

Are you dense? As soon as one player changes clubs because of a grade older kid playing down clubs wont allow older kids to play down any longer. If older players were good enough they'd be playing on their grade in school A team. If not they play on their grade in school B team.

I thought the league set the calendar age cutoff for age groups
When did clubs get the power to play older kids down outside league rules?

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Anonymous wrote:No way. They will gladly take the August kid on the SY A team if they are good enough to make it. Clubs care about winning far more than grade alignment.

Not when it causes drama and issues for the club.

Allowing kids to play up in bulk numbers is the drama leagues and clubs are avoiding at all costs.

That makes no sense

It does if you run a club. Many parents don't get it for sure, they think their DC deserves special treatment, that's the drama, that's the problem.

Kids wanting to play on teams.with other kids in their grade in school is normal. The fact that you cant see that is problematic.

It's also normal for kids to play with different grades, now in BY and before in SY, especially in travel when you typically don't play with actual classmates. Both should happen where appropriate.

No, playing on teams with players that are all a grade younger than your kid is not normal. In fact the entire switch back from BY to SY was done to allow more players to play on teams with other kids in their grade.

Why would kids who are grouped by birth year/month need to be pushed into manufactured school grade groupings when school has nothing to do with travel soccer?

Because College Coaches recruit by graduating year or grade in school.

I thought they recruited by talent and potential

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Anonymous wrote:No way. They will gladly take the August kid on the SY A team if they are good enough to make it. Clubs care about winning far more than grade alignment.

Not when it causes drama and issues for the club.

Allowing kids to play up in bulk numbers is the drama leagues and clubs are avoiding at all costs.

That makes no sense

It does if you run a club. Many parents don't get it for sure, they think their DC deserves special treatment, that's the drama, that's the problem.

Kids wanting to play on teams.with other kids in their grade in school is normal. The fact that you cant see that is problematic.

It's also normal for kids to play with different grades, now in BY and before in SY, especially in travel when you typically don't play with actual classmates. Both should happen where appropriate.

No, playing on teams with players that are all a grade younger than your kid is not normal. In fact the entire switch back from BY to SY was done to allow more players to play on teams with other kids in their grade.

Why would kids who are grouped by birth year/month need to be pushed into manufactured school grade groupings when school has nothing to do with travel soccer?

Because College Coaches recruit by graduating year or grade in school.

I thought they recruited by talent and potential

College coaches do both. They recruit by graduating year (grade in school) and talent and potential. Most reviewing by coaches who they want on their roster is done during players sophomore year. Official signed offers happen midway through junior year. This gives coaches one year of buffer to address any issues.

Sophmores are compared against all other sophmores and maybe Juniors and Seniors. What this means is if you're a Sophmore Aug birthday playing down on a Freshman team playing at a Freshman level in club you are at a SERIOUS disadvantage for being recruited.

Looney tunes is trying to convince people that playing down doesn't matter if you have a really video on Instagram. This is not true as soon as a coach finds out that the player is playing down they'll either move on or require then to attend a camp to see how they play against players their age and older. Which they'll fail at because they're not used to higher levels of play.

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Anonymous wrote:No way. They will gladly take the August kid on the SY A team if they are good enough to make it. Clubs care about winning far more than grade alignment.

Not when it causes drama and issues for the club.

Allowing kids to play up in bulk numbers is the drama leagues and clubs are avoiding at all costs.

That makes no sense

It does if you run a club. Many parents don't get it for sure, they think their DC deserves special treatment, that's the drama, that's the problem.

Kids wanting to play on teams.with other kids in their grade in school is normal. The fact that you cant see that is problematic.

It's also normal for kids to play with different grades, now in BY and before in SY, especially in travel when you typically don't play with actual classmates. Both should happen where appropriate.

No, playing on teams with players that are all a grade younger than your kid is not normal. In fact the entire switch back from BY to SY was done to allow more players to play on teams with other kids in their grade.

Why would kids who are grouped by birth year/month need to be pushed into manufactured school grade groupings when school has nothing to do with travel soccer?

Because College Coaches recruit by graduating year or grade in school.

I thought they recruited by talent and potential

College coaches do both. They recruit by graduating year (grade in school) and talent and potential. Most reviewing by coaches who they want on their roster is done during players sophomore year. Official signed offers happen midway through junior year. This gives coaches one year of buffer to address any issues.

Sophmores are compared against all other sophmores and maybe Juniors and Seniors. What this means is if you're a Sophmore Aug birthday playing down on a Freshman team playing at a Freshman level in club you are at a SERIOUS disadvantage for being recruited.

Looney tunes is trying to convince people that playing down doesn't matter if you have a really video on Instagram. This is not true as soon as a coach finds out that the player is playing down they'll either move on or require then to attend a camp to see how they play against players their age and older. Which they'll fail at because they're not used to higher levels of play.

Sophomores of all ages are compared against other current and potential college recruits. Potential recruits play on other college teams, over seas, some sophomores on good teams and some sophomores on bad teams. The ages of teammates for a recruit is irrelevant but college coaches will take into account the overall level of play. A main part of college coaches job is to evaluate talent, they know what they are doing regardless of the circumstances, they do recruit from bad teams also. To suggest otherwise is uninformed and illogical and is clearly being done to mislead a specific August girl to be self serving.

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Anonymous wrote:No way. They will gladly take the August kid on the SY A team if they are good enough to make it. Clubs care about winning far more than grade alignment.

Not when it causes drama and issues for the club.

Allowing kids to play up in bulk numbers is the drama leagues and clubs are avoiding at all costs.

That makes no sense

It does if you run a club. Many parents don't get it for sure, they think their DC deserves special treatment, that's the drama, that's the problem.

Kids wanting to play on teams.with other kids in their grade in school is normal. The fact that you cant see that is problematic.

It's also normal for kids to play with different grades, now in BY and before in SY, especially in travel when you typically don't play with actual classmates. Both should happen where appropriate.

No, playing on teams with players that are all a grade younger than your kid is not normal. In fact the entire switch back from BY to SY was done to allow more players to play on teams with other kids in their grade.

Why would kids who are grouped by birth year/month need to be pushed into manufactured school grade groupings when school has nothing to do with travel soccer?

Because College Coaches recruit by graduating year or grade in school.

I thought they recruited by talent and potential

College coaches do both. They recruit by graduating year (grade in school) and talent and potential. Most reviewing by coaches who they want on their roster is done during players sophomore year. Official signed offers happen midway through junior year. This gives coaches one year of buffer to address any issues.

Sophmores are compared against all other sophmores and maybe Juniors and Seniors. What this means is if you're a Sophmore Aug birthday playing down on a Freshman team playing at a Freshman level in club you are at a SERIOUS disadvantage for being recruited.

Looney tunes is trying to convince people that playing down doesn't matter if you have a really video on Instagram. This is not true as soon as a coach finds out that the player is playing down they'll either move on or require then to attend a camp to see how they play against players their age and older. Which they'll fail at because they're not used to higher levels of play.

Sophomores of all ages are compared against other current and potential college recruits. Potential recruits play on other college teams, over seas, some sophomores on good teams and some sophomores on bad teams. The ages of teammates for a recruit is irrelevant but college coaches will take into account the overall level of play. A main part of college coaches job is to evaluate talent, they know what they are doing regardless of the circumstances, they do recruit from bad teams also. To suggest otherwise is uninformed and illogical and is clearly being done to mislead a specific August girl to be self serving.

How do you not see that Aug birthdays playing a level down against younger players will not prepare them for playing against players your grade and older?

The way you practice is the way you play in games.

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Anonymous wrote:No way. They will gladly take the August kid on the SY A team if they are good enough to make it. Clubs care about winning far more than grade alignment.

Not when it causes drama and issues for the club.

Allowing kids to play up in bulk numbers is the drama leagues and clubs are avoiding at all costs.

That makes no sense

It does if you run a club. Many parents don't get it for sure, they think their DC deserves special treatment, that's the drama, that's the problem.

Kids wanting to play on teams.with other kids in their grade in school is normal. The fact that you cant see that is problematic.

It's also normal for kids to play with different grades, now in BY and before in SY, especially in travel when you typically don't play with actual classmates. Both should happen where appropriate.

No, playing on teams with players that are all a grade younger than your kid is not normal. In fact the entire switch back from BY to SY was done to allow more players to play on teams with other kids in their grade.

Why would kids who are grouped by birth year/month need to be pushed into manufactured school grade groupings when school has nothing to do with travel soccer?

Because College Coaches recruit by graduating year or grade in school.

I thought they recruited by talent and potential

College coaches do both. They recruit by graduating year (grade in school) and talent and potential. Most reviewing by coaches who they want on their roster is done during players sophomore year. Official signed offers happen midway through junior year. This gives coaches one year of buffer to address any issues.

Sophmores are compared against all other sophmores and maybe Juniors and Seniors. What this means is if you're a Sophmore Aug birthday playing down on a Freshman team playing at a Freshman level in club you are at a SERIOUS disadvantage for being recruited.

Looney tunes is trying to convince people that playing down doesn't matter if you have a really video on Instagram. This is not true as soon as a coach finds out that the player is playing down they'll either move on or require then to attend a camp to see how they play against players their age and older. Which they'll fail at because they're not used to higher levels of play.

Sophomores of all ages are compared against other current and potential college recruits. Potential recruits play on other college teams, over seas, some sophomores on good teams and some sophomores on bad teams. The ages of teammates for a recruit is irrelevant but college coaches will take into account the overall level of play. A main part of college coaches job is to evaluate talent, they know what they are doing regardless of the circumstances, they do recruit from bad teams also. To suggest otherwise is uninformed and illogical and is clearly being done to mislead a specific August girl to be self serving.

How do you not see that Aug birthdays playing a level down against younger players will not prepare them for playing against players your grade and older?

The way you practice is the way you play in games.

Because they are not actually playing down. That is your invention.

Research shows that kids being a top player on a team is advantageous while being towards the bottom of the team leads to increased probability of quitting. Beyond puberty, ages don't matter, like the college coaches say.

You don't have to believe the research but you lose the discussion ever time without receipts.

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Anonymous wrote:No way. They will gladly take the August kid on the SY A team if they are good enough to make it. Clubs care about winning far more than grade alignment.

Not when it causes drama and issues for the club.

Allowing kids to play up in bulk numbers is the drama leagues and clubs are avoiding at all costs.

That makes no sense

It does if you run a club. Many parents don't get it for sure, they think their DC deserves special treatment, that's the drama, that's the problem.

Kids wanting to play on teams.with other kids in their grade in school is normal. The fact that you cant see that is problematic.

It's also normal for kids to play with different grades, now in BY and before in SY, especially in travel when you typically don't play with actual classmates. Both should happen where appropriate.

No, playing on teams with players that are all a grade younger than your kid is not normal. In fact the entire switch back from BY to SY was done to allow more players to play on teams with other kids in their grade.

Why would kids who are grouped by birth year/month need to be pushed into manufactured school grade groupings when school has nothing to do with travel soccer?

Because College Coaches recruit by graduating year or grade in school.

I thought they recruited by talent and potential

College coaches do both. They recruit by graduating year (grade in school) and talent and potential. Most reviewing by coaches who they want on their roster is done during players sophomore year. Official signed offers happen midway through junior year. This gives coaches one year of buffer to address any issues.

Sophmores are compared against all other sophmores and maybe Juniors and Seniors. What this means is if you're a Sophmore Aug birthday playing down on a Freshman team playing at a Freshman level in club you are at a SERIOUS disadvantage for being recruited.

Looney tunes is trying to convince people that playing down doesn't matter if you have a really video on Instagram. This is not true as soon as a coach finds out that the player is playing down they'll either move on or require then to attend a camp to see how they play against players their age and older. Which they'll fail at because they're not used to higher levels of play.

No lunatic
Your grade has nothing to do with if you can play soccer or not

College coaches only care about your soccer skills and if you don't have lunatic parents

They use your graduation year only for administrative purposes to see your incoming freshman year

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Anonymous wrote:No way. They will gladly take the August kid on the SY A team if they are good enough to make it. Clubs care about winning far more than grade alignment.

Not when it causes drama and issues for the club.

Allowing kids to play up in bulk numbers is the drama leagues and clubs are avoiding at all costs.

That makes no sense

It does if you run a club. Many parents don't get it for sure, they think their DC deserves special treatment, that's the drama, that's the problem.

Kids wanting to play on teams.with other kids in their grade in school is normal. The fact that you cant see that is problematic.

It's also normal for kids to play with different grades, now in BY and before in SY, especially in travel when you typically don't play with actual classmates. Both should happen where appropriate.

No, playing on teams with players that are all a grade younger than your kid is not normal. In fact the entire switch back from BY to SY was done to allow more players to play on teams with other kids in their grade.

Why would kids who are grouped by birth year/month need to be pushed into manufactured school grade groupings when school has nothing to do with travel soccer?

Because College Coaches recruit by graduating year or grade in school.

I thought they recruited by talent and potential

College coaches do both. They recruit by graduating year (grade in school) and talent and potential. Most reviewing by coaches who they want on their roster is done during players sophomore year. Official signed offers happen midway through junior year. This gives coaches one year of buffer to address any issues.

Sophmores are compared against all other sophmores and maybe Juniors and Seniors. What this means is if you're a Sophmore Aug birthday playing down on a Freshman team playing at a Freshman level in club you are at a SERIOUS disadvantage for being recruited.

Looney tunes is trying to convince people that playing down doesn't matter if you have a really video on Instagram. This is not true as soon as a coach finds out that the player is playing down they'll either move on or require then to attend a camp to see how they play against players their age and older. Which they'll fail at because they're not used to higher levels of play.

Sophomores of all ages are compared against other current and potential college recruits. Potential recruits play on other college teams, over seas, some sophomores on good teams and some sophomores on bad teams. The ages of teammates for a recruit is irrelevant but college coaches will take into account the overall level of play. A main part of college coaches job is to evaluate talent, they know what they are doing regardless of the circumstances, they do recruit from bad teams also. To suggest otherwise is uninformed and illogical and is clearly being done to mislead a specific August girl to be self serving.

How do you not see that Aug birthdays playing a level down against younger players will not prepare them for playing against players your grade and older?

The way you practice is the way you play in games.

Because they are not actually playing down. That is your invention.

Research shows that kids being a top player on a team is advantageous while being towards the bottom of the team leads to increased probability of quitting. Beyond puberty, ages don't matter, like the college coaches say.

You don't have to believe the research but you lose the discussion ever time without receipts.

What exactly are the youth development advantages of being the top player on a team?

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Anonymous wrote:No way. They will gladly take the August kid on the SY A team if they are good enough to make it. Clubs care about winning far more than grade alignment.

Not when it causes drama and issues for the club.

Allowing kids to play up in bulk numbers is the drama leagues and clubs are avoiding at all costs.

That makes no sense

It does if you run a club. Many parents don't get it for sure, they think their DC deserves special treatment, that's the drama, that's the problem.

Kids wanting to play on teams.with other kids in their grade in school is normal. The fact that you cant see that is problematic.

It's also normal for kids to play with different grades, now in BY and before in SY, especially in travel when you typically don't play with actual classmates. Both should happen where appropriate.

No, playing on teams with players that are all a grade younger than your kid is not normal. In fact the entire switch back from BY to SY was done to allow more players to play on teams with other kids in their grade.

Why would kids who are grouped by birth year/month need to be pushed into manufactured school grade groupings when school has nothing to do with travel soccer?

Because College Coaches recruit by graduating year or grade in school.

I thought they recruited by talent and potential

College coaches do both. They recruit by graduating year (grade in school) and talent and potential. Most reviewing by coaches who they want on their roster is done during players sophomore year. Official signed offers happen midway through junior year. This gives coaches one year of buffer to address any issues.

Sophmores are compared against all other sophmores and maybe Juniors and Seniors. What this means is if you're a Sophmore Aug birthday playing down on a Freshman team playing at a Freshman level in club you are at a SERIOUS disadvantage for being recruited.

Looney tunes is trying to convince people that playing down doesn't matter if you have a really video on Instagram. This is not true as soon as a coach finds out that the player is playing down they'll either move on or require then to attend a camp to see how they play against players their age and older. Which they'll fail at because they're not used to higher levels of play.

Sophomores of all ages are compared against other current and potential college recruits. Potential recruits play on other college teams, over seas, some sophomores on good teams and some sophomores on bad teams. The ages of teammates for a recruit is irrelevant but college coaches will take into account the overall level of play. A main part of college coaches job is to evaluate talent, they know what they are doing regardless of the circumstances, they do recruit from bad teams also. To suggest otherwise is uninformed and illogical and is clearly being done to mislead a specific August girl to be self serving.

How do you not see that Aug birthdays playing a level down against younger players will not prepare them for playing against players your grade and older?

The way you practice is the way you play in games.

Because they are not actually playing down. That is your invention.

Research shows that kids being a top player on a team is advantageous while being towards the bottom of the team leads to increased probability of quitting. Beyond puberty, ages don't matter, like the college coaches say.

You don't have to believe the research but you lose the discussion ever time without receipts.

What exactly are the youth development advantages of being the top player on a team?

The internet givith.

-Leadership & Responsibility: Top players often naturally become leaders, learning to guide by example, take accountability, and motivate others, which builds character and essential management skills.
-Enhanced Decision-Making: They face pressure to make split-second strategic choices, improving their ability to think critically and solve problems in real-time.
-Deeper Skill Mastery: Teaching fundamentals to less experienced teammates reinforces their own understanding of the game and develops their basketball IQ (or sport-specific knowledge).
-Increased Playing Time & Freedom: On development-focused teams, top players get more minutes, allowing them to experiment with new moves and strategies in a lower-pressure setting.
-Boosted Confidence & Self-Esteem: Recognition and responsibility as the best player significantly enhance a young athlete's belief in themselves.
Mentorship Opportunities: They can form "big brother/sister" bonds, learning from older players while also guiding younger ones, fostering personal growth.

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Anonymous wrote:No way. They will gladly take the August kid on the SY A team if they are good enough to make it. Clubs care about winning far more than grade alignment.

Not when it causes drama and issues for the club.

Allowing kids to play up in bulk numbers is the drama leagues and clubs are avoiding at all costs.

That makes no sense

It does if you run a club. Many parents don't get it for sure, they think their DC deserves special treatment, that's the drama, that's the problem.

Kids wanting to play on teams.with other kids in their grade in school is normal. The fact that you cant see that is problematic.

It's also normal for kids to play with different grades, now in BY and before in SY, especially in travel when you typically don't play with actual classmates. Both should happen where appropriate.

No, playing on teams with players that are all a grade younger than your kid is not normal. In fact the entire switch back from BY to SY was done to allow more players to play on teams with other kids in their grade.

Why would kids who are grouped by birth year/month need to be pushed into manufactured school grade groupings when school has nothing to do with travel soccer?

Because College Coaches recruit by graduating year or grade in school.

I thought they recruited by talent and potential

College coaches do both. They recruit by graduating year (grade in school) and talent and potential. Most reviewing by coaches who they want on their roster is done during players sophomore year. Official signed offers happen midway through junior year. This gives coaches one year of buffer to address any issues.

Sophmores are compared against all other sophmores and maybe Juniors and Seniors. What this means is if you're a Sophmore Aug birthday playing down on a Freshman team playing at a Freshman level in club you are at a SERIOUS disadvantage for being recruited.

Looney tunes is trying to convince people that playing down doesn't matter if you have a really video on Instagram. This is not true as soon as a coach finds out that the player is playing down they'll either move on or require then to attend a camp to see how they play against players their age and older. Which they'll fail at because they're not used to higher levels of play.

Sophomores of all ages are compared against other current and potential college recruits. Potential recruits play on other college teams, over seas, some sophomores on good teams and some sophomores on bad teams. The ages of teammates for a recruit is irrelevant but college coaches will take into account the overall level of play. A main part of college coaches job is to evaluate talent, they know what they are doing regardless of the circumstances, they do recruit from bad teams also. To suggest otherwise is uninformed and illogical and is clearly being done to mislead a specific August girl to be self serving.

How do you not see that Aug birthdays playing a level down against younger players will not prepare them for playing against players your grade and older?

The way you practice is the way you play in games.

Because they are not actually playing down. That is your invention.

Research shows that kids being a top player on a team is advantageous while being towards the bottom of the team leads to increased probability of quitting. Beyond puberty, ages don't matter, like the college coaches say.

You don't have to believe the research but you lose the discussion ever time without receipts.

What exactly are the youth development advantages of being the top player on a team?

This is what they're looking for.

Everyone knows it.

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Anonymous wrote:No way. They will gladly take the August kid on the SY A team if they are good enough to make it. Clubs care about winning far more than grade alignment.

Not when it causes drama and issues for the club.

Allowing kids to play up in bulk numbers is the drama leagues and clubs are avoiding at all costs.

That makes no sense

It does if you run a club. Many parents don't get it for sure, they think their DC deserves special treatment, that's the drama, that's the problem.

Kids wanting to play on teams.with other kids in their grade in school is normal. The fact that you cant see that is problematic.

It's also normal for kids to play with different grades, now in BY and before in SY, especially in travel when you typically don't play with actual classmates. Both should happen where appropriate.

No, playing on teams with players that are all a grade younger than your kid is not normal. In fact the entire switch back from BY to SY was done to allow more players to play on teams with other kids in their grade.

Why would kids who are grouped by birth year/month need to be pushed into manufactured school grade groupings when school has nothing to do with travel soccer?

Because College Coaches recruit by graduating year or grade in school.

I thought they recruited by talent and potential

College coaches do both. They recruit by graduating year (grade in school) and talent and potential. Most reviewing by coaches who they want on their roster is done during players sophomore year. Official signed offers happen midway through junior year. This gives coaches one year of buffer to address any issues.

Sophmores are compared against all other sophmores and maybe Juniors and Seniors. What this means is if you're a Sophmore Aug birthday playing down on a Freshman team playing at a Freshman level in club you are at a SERIOUS disadvantage for being recruited.

Looney tunes is trying to convince people that playing down doesn't matter if you have a really video on Instagram. This is not true as soon as a coach finds out that the player is playing down they'll either move on or require then to attend a camp to see how they play against players their age and older. Which they'll fail at because they're not used to higher levels of play.

Sophomores of all ages are compared against other current and potential college recruits. Potential recruits play on other college teams, over seas, some sophomores on good teams and some sophomores on bad teams. The ages of teammates for a recruit is irrelevant but college coaches will take into account the overall level of play. A main part of college coaches job is to evaluate talent, they know what they are doing regardless of the circumstances, they do recruit from bad teams also. To suggest otherwise is uninformed and illogical and is clearly being done to mislead a specific August girl to be self serving.

How do you not see that Aug birthdays playing a level down against younger players will not prepare them for playing against players your grade and older?

The way you practice is the way you play in games.

Because they are not actually playing down. That is your invention.

Research shows that kids being a top player on a team is advantageous while being towards the bottom of the team leads to increased probability of quitting. Beyond puberty, ages don't matter, like the college coaches say.

You don't have to believe the research but you lose the discussion ever time without receipts.

What exactly are the youth development advantages of being the top player on a team?

The internet givith.

-Leadership & Responsibility: Top players often naturally become leaders, learning to guide by example, take accountability, and motivate others, which builds character and essential management skills.
-Enhanced Decision-Making: They face pressure to make split-second strategic choices, improving their ability to think critically and solve problems in real-time.
-Deeper Skill Mastery: Teaching fundamentals to less experienced teammates reinforces their own understanding of the game and develops their basketball IQ (or sport-specific knowledge).
-Increased Playing Time & Freedom: On development-focused teams, top players get more minutes, allowing them to experiment with new moves and strategies in a lower-pressure setting.
-Boosted Confidence & Self-Esteem: Recognition and responsibility as the best player significantly enhance a young athlete's belief in themselves.
Mentorship Opportunities: They can form "big brother/sister" bonds, learning from older players while also guiding younger ones, fostering personal growth.

Theoretical and needs to be in context.

Being the top player on a top team in the top league is one thing
Training with and playing against the best

Top player on lower team in lesser league is a different thing

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Anonymous wrote:No way. They will gladly take the August kid on the SY A team if they are good enough to make it. Clubs care about winning far more than grade alignment.

Not when it causes drama and issues for the club.

Allowing kids to play up in bulk numbers is the drama leagues and clubs are avoiding at all costs.

That makes no sense

It does if you run a club. Many parents don't get it for sure, they think their DC deserves special treatment, that's the drama, that's the problem.

Kids wanting to play on teams.with other kids in their grade in school is normal. The fact that you cant see that is problematic.

It's also normal for kids to play with different grades, now in BY and before in SY, especially in travel when you typically don't play with actual classmates. Both should happen where appropriate.

No, playing on teams with players that are all a grade younger than your kid is not normal. In fact the entire switch back from BY to SY was done to allow more players to play on teams with other kids in their grade.

Why would kids who are grouped by birth year/month need to be pushed into manufactured school grade groupings when school has nothing to do with travel soccer?

Because College Coaches recruit by graduating year or grade in school.

I thought they recruited by talent and potential

College coaches do both. They recruit by graduating year (grade in school) and talent and potential. Most reviewing by coaches who they want on their roster is done during players sophomore year. Official signed offers happen midway through junior year. This gives coaches one year of buffer to address any issues.

Sophmores are compared against all other sophmores and maybe Juniors and Seniors. What this means is if you're a Sophmore Aug birthday playing down on a Freshman team playing at a Freshman level in club you are at a SERIOUS disadvantage for being recruited.

Looney tunes is trying to convince people that playing down doesn't matter if you have a really video on Instagram. This is not true as soon as a coach finds out that the player is playing down they'll either move on or require then to attend a camp to see how they play against players their age and older. Which they'll fail at because they're not used to higher levels of play.

Sophomores of all ages are compared against other current and potential college recruits. Potential recruits play on other college teams, over seas, some sophomores on good teams and some sophomores on bad teams. The ages of teammates for a recruit is irrelevant but college coaches will take into account the overall level of play. A main part of college coaches job is to evaluate talent, they know what they are doing regardless of the circumstances, they do recruit from bad teams also. To suggest otherwise is uninformed and illogical and is clearly being done to mislead a specific August girl to be self serving.

How do you not see that Aug birthdays playing a level down against younger players will not prepare them for playing against players your grade and older?

The way you practice is the way you play in games.

Because they are not actually playing down. That is your invention.

Research shows that kids being a top player on a team is advantageous while being towards the bottom of the team leads to increased probability of quitting. Beyond puberty, ages don't matter, like the college coaches say.

You don't have to believe the research but you lose the discussion ever time without receipts.

What exactly are the youth development advantages of being the top player on a team?

This is what they're looking for.

Everyone knows it.

Starting at 2:28 where Adam Sandler starts beating up on little kids. Apparently dcum doesnt read markers at the end of YouTube links.

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Anonymous wrote:No way. They will gladly take the August kid on the SY A team if they are good enough to make it. Clubs care about winning far more than grade alignment.

Not when it causes drama and issues for the club.

Allowing kids to play up in bulk numbers is the drama leagues and clubs are avoiding at all costs.

That makes no sense

It does if you run a club. Many parents don't get it for sure, they think their DC deserves special treatment, that's the drama, that's the problem.

Kids wanting to play on teams.with other kids in their grade in school is normal. The fact that you cant see that is problematic.

It's also normal for kids to play with different grades, now in BY and before in SY, especially in travel when you typically don't play with actual classmates. Both should happen where appropriate.

No, playing on teams with players that are all a grade younger than your kid is not normal. In fact the entire switch back from BY to SY was done to allow more players to play on teams with other kids in their grade.

Why would kids who are grouped by birth year/month need to be pushed into manufactured school grade groupings when school has nothing to do with travel soccer?

Because College Coaches recruit by graduating year or grade in school.

I thought they recruited by talent and potential

College coaches do both. They recruit by graduating year (grade in school) and talent and potential. Most reviewing by coaches who they want on their roster is done during players sophomore year. Official signed offers happen midway through junior year. This gives coaches one year of buffer to address any issues.

Sophmores are compared against all other sophmores and maybe Juniors and Seniors. What this means is if you're a Sophmore Aug birthday playing down on a Freshman team playing at a Freshman level in club you are at a SERIOUS disadvantage for being recruited.

Looney tunes is trying to convince people that playing down doesn't matter if you have a really video on Instagram. This is not true as soon as a coach finds out that the player is playing down they'll either move on or require then to attend a camp to see how they play against players their age and older. Which they'll fail at because they're not used to higher levels of play.

Sophomores of all ages are compared against other current and potential college recruits. Potential recruits play on other college teams, over seas, some sophomores on good teams and some sophomores on bad teams. The ages of teammates for a recruit is irrelevant but college coaches will take into account the overall level of play. A main part of college coaches job is to evaluate talent, they know what they are doing regardless of the circumstances, they do recruit from bad teams also. To suggest otherwise is uninformed and illogical and is clearly being done to mislead a specific August girl to be self serving.

How do you not see that Aug birthdays playing a level down against younger players will not prepare them for playing against players your grade and older?

The way you practice is the way you play in games.

Because they are not actually playing down. That is your invention.

Research shows that kids being a top player on a team is advantageous while being towards the bottom of the team leads to increased probability of quitting. Beyond puberty, ages don't matter, like the college coaches say.

You don't have to believe the research but you lose the discussion ever time without receipts.

What exactly are the youth development advantages of being the top player on a team?

The internet givith.

-Leadership & Responsibility: Top players often naturally become leaders, learning to guide by example, take accountability, and motivate others, which builds character and essential management skills.
-Enhanced Decision-Making: They face pressure to make split-second strategic choices, improving their ability to think critically and solve problems in real-time.
-Deeper Skill Mastery: Teaching fundamentals to less experienced teammates reinforces their own understanding of the game and develops their basketball IQ (or sport-specific knowledge).
-Increased Playing Time & Freedom: On development-focused teams, top players get more minutes, allowing them to experiment with new moves and strategies in a lower-pressure setting.
-Boosted Confidence & Self-Esteem: Recognition and responsibility as the best player significantly enhance a young athlete's belief in themselves.
Mentorship Opportunities: They can form "big brother/sister" bonds, learning from older players while also guiding younger ones, fostering personal growth.

Theoretical and needs to be in context.

Being the top player on a top team in the top league is one thing
Training with and playing against the best

Top player on lower team in lesser league is a different thing

Boomer talk. Everyone has an opinion, some are backed by proof, others, not so much.

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Anonymous wrote:No way. They will gladly take the August kid on the SY A team if they are good enough to make it. Clubs care about winning far more than grade alignment.

Not when it causes drama and issues for the club.

Allowing kids to play up in bulk numbers is the drama leagues and clubs are avoiding at all costs.

That makes no sense

It does if you run a club. Many parents don't get it for sure, they think their DC deserves special treatment, that's the drama, that's the problem.

Kids wanting to play on teams.with other kids in their grade in school is normal. The fact that you cant see that is problematic.

It's also normal for kids to play with different grades, now in BY and before in SY, especially in travel when you typically don't play with actual classmates. Both should happen where appropriate.

No, playing on teams with players that are all a grade younger than your kid is not normal. In fact the entire switch back from BY to SY was done to allow more players to play on teams with other kids in their grade.

Why would kids who are grouped by birth year/month need to be pushed into manufactured school grade groupings when school has nothing to do with travel soccer?

Because College Coaches recruit by graduating year or grade in school.

I thought they recruited by talent and potential

College coaches do both. They recruit by graduating year (grade in school) and talent and potential. Most reviewing by coaches who they want on their roster is done during players sophomore year. Official signed offers happen midway through junior year. This gives coaches one year of buffer to address any issues.

Sophmores are compared against all other sophmores and maybe Juniors and Seniors. What this means is if you're a Sophmore Aug birthday playing down on a Freshman team playing at a Freshman level in club you are at a SERIOUS disadvantage for being recruited.

Looney tunes is trying to convince people that playing down doesn't matter if you have a really video on Instagram. This is not true as soon as a coach finds out that the player is playing down they'll either move on or require then to attend a camp to see how they play against players their age and older. Which they'll fail at because they're not used to higher levels of play.

Sophomores of all ages are compared against other current and potential college recruits. Potential recruits play on other college teams, over seas, some sophomores on good teams and some sophomores on bad teams. The ages of teammates for a recruit is irrelevant but college coaches will take into account the overall level of play. A main part of college coaches job is to evaluate talent, they know what they are doing regardless of the circumstances, they do recruit from bad teams also. To suggest otherwise is uninformed and illogical and is clearly being done to mislead a specific August girl to be self serving.

How do you not see that Aug birthdays playing a level down against younger players will not prepare them for playing against players your grade and older?

The way you practice is the way you play in games.

Because they are not actually playing down. That is your invention.

Research shows that kids being a top player on a team is advantageous while being towards the bottom of the team leads to increased probability of quitting. Beyond puberty, ages don't matter, like the college coaches say.

You don't have to believe the research but you lose the discussion ever time without receipts.

What exactly are the youth development advantages of being the top player on a team?

The internet givith.

-Leadership & Responsibility: Top players often naturally become leaders, learning to guide by example, take accountability, and motivate others, which builds character and essential management skills.
-Enhanced Decision-Making: They face pressure to make split-second strategic choices, improving their ability to think critically and solve problems in real-time.
-Deeper Skill Mastery: Teaching fundamentals to less experienced teammates reinforces their own understanding of the game and develops their basketball IQ (or sport-specific knowledge).
-Increased Playing Time & Freedom: On development-focused teams, top players get more minutes, allowing them to experiment with new moves and strategies in a lower-pressure setting.
-Boosted Confidence & Self-Esteem: Recognition and responsibility as the best player significantly enhance a young athlete's belief in themselves.
Mentorship Opportunities: They can form "big brother/sister" bonds, learning from older players while also guiding younger ones, fostering personal growth.

Theoretical and needs to be in context.

Being the top player on a top team in the top league is one thing
Training with and playing against the best

Top player on lower team in lesser league is a different thing

Boomer talk. Everyone has an opinion, some are backed by proof, others, not so much.

The best player on the C team in NCSL at U10 is on the same development track as the best player on the U10 A team at Bethesda in ECNL?
Same conditions opportunities and challenges?