The demise of McKinley ES (APS)

[Anonymous]

Yikes! If this McKinley crew sues to challenge the boundary process, it could delay the opening of Reed. What would happen to the schools in the eastern part of the county in the meantime. Can they absorb the projected numbers for 2021?

[Anonymous]

The SaveMcK crazies have experienced overcrowding in thei 800 student school. They are ridiculous, though, and obtuse to think the school wouldn’t change when seats opened. I welcome not having a kid in an 800 student school!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The SaveMcK crazies have experienced overcrowding in thei 800 student school. They are ridiculous, though, and obtuse to think the school wouldn’t change when seats opened. I welcome not having a kid in an 800 student school!

Good, we agree! No doubt you'll appreciate the data collected by the Dominion Hills Civic Association and McKinley PTA that shows Reed, Ashlawn and Glebe at or over-capacity without McK as a neighborhood school.

Why undertake these school changes now when APS is undertaking ES boundary changes immediately afterward? Why hamstring themselves with these premature decisions that affect the bigger boundary change discussion? This makes no sense.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I have seen some of these accusations about APS employees from McKinley parents on our listserve. It's really pretty awful.

I know. I don't think they realize (care?) about the people they could be hurting, the way others are viewing their actions or that other APS employees are on the list serves, too.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:41 pages about the demise of McKinley...

Is it dead yet?

No, but the Mckinley that existed before is becoming a thing of the past. I have neighbors who are starting to say things in public with the intention of getting Aps employees in serious trouble. They don’t like what the decisions that Aps are making, so they are sinking very low to try to change things. I can’t really look at the people involved in the safe Mckinley group the same anymore. Publicly accusing people of being shady and going into their personal lives is not what I want my school known for. Some are spreading rumors about APS employees. Some are spreading lies about SB members. Some are talking retaining legal counsel. Some claim they have more of a right to walk that others in their own school. It’s so gross.

I am an involved McKinley parent and have run into NONE of this. Maligning the passion of McKinley parents for their school does not help the discussion.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:41 pages about the demise of McKinley...

Is it dead yet?

No, but the Mckinley that existed before is becoming a thing of the past. I have neighbors who are starting to say things in public with the intention of getting Aps employees in serious trouble. They don’t like what the decisions that Aps are making, so they are sinking very low to try to change things. I can’t really look at the people involved in the safe Mckinley group the same anymore. Publicly accusing people of being shady and going into their personal lives is not what I want my school known for. Some are spreading rumors about APS employees. Some are spreading lies about SB members. Some are talking retaining legal counsel. Some claim they have more of a right to walk that others in their own school. It’s so gross.

I am an involved McKinley parent and have run into NONE of this. Maligning the passion of McKinley parents for their school does not help the discussion.

Get on NextDoor

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:41 pages about the demise of McKinley...

Is it dead yet?

No, but the Mckinley that existed before is becoming a thing of the past. I have neighbors who are starting to say things in public with the intention of getting Aps employees in serious trouble. They don’t like what the decisions that Aps are making, so they are sinking very low to try to change things. I can’t really look at the people involved in the safe Mckinley group the same anymore. Publicly accusing people of being shady and going into their personal lives is not what I want my school known for. Some are spreading rumors about APS employees. Some are spreading lies about SB members. Some are talking retaining legal counsel. Some claim they have more of a right to walk that others in their own school. It’s so gross.

I am an involved McKinley parent and have run into NONE of this. Maligning the passion of McKinley parents for their school does not help the discussion.

DP. I haven't seen what pp described, but the comments from the Save McKinley people on NextDoor have been truly atrocious. They are openly snide and derogatory toward anyone who doesn't agree with them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:41 pages about the demise of McKinley...

I am an involved McKinley parent and have run into NONE of this. Maligning the passion of McKinley parents for their school does not help the discussion.

Get on NextDoor

Yup, on there. It's actually not a bad back in forth with respectful differences....like these boards should be.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:41 pages about the demise of McKinley...

I am an involved McKinley parent and have run into NONE of this. Maligning the passion of McKinley parents for their school does not help the discussion.

Get on NextDoor

Yup, on there. It's actually not a bad back in forth with respectful differences....like these boards should be.

I guess you missed the part where one or two people were accusing Aps of bad conflict of interest to benefit a spouse. So disgusting.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:41 pages about the demise of McKinley...

Is it dead yet?

No, but the Mckinley that existed before is becoming a thing of the past. I have neighbors who are starting to say things in public with the intention of getting Aps employees in serious trouble. They don’t like what the decisions that Aps are making, so they are sinking very low to try to change things. I can’t really look at the people involved in the safe Mckinley group the same anymore. Publicly accusing people of being shady and going into their personal lives is not what I want my school known for. Some are spreading rumors about APS employees. Some are spreading lies about SB members. Some are talking retaining legal counsel. Some claim they have more of a right to walk that others in their own school. It’s so gross.

I am an involved McKinley parent and have run into NONE of this. Maligning the passion of McKinley parents for their school does not help the discussion.

There is at least one person on NextDoor accusing staff of being biased in their projections due to conflicts of interest (seemingly because they are Arlington residents themselves). They're basically accusing the staff of deliberately skewing the projection data in order to get better outcomes for their own neighborhoods at the expense of others. That is inappropriate.

[Anonymous]

I like the woman on NextDoor who claimed the data showed Reed was better suited for lots of buses than McKinley, and then when asked what data supported that conclusion, said she didn't know because she was still sifting through the data. Um...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I like the woman on NextDoor who claimed the data showed Reed was better suited for lots of buses than McKinley, and then when asked what data supported that conclusion, said she didn't know because she was still sifting through the data. Um...

There isn't any data that shows that. She knows it and APS knows it. APS has already explained why they chose McKinley over Reed, but those 180 extra kids who can walk are in inconvenient truth for a few people. What is scary is the staff accuser isn't being deleted and others are acting like what he is saying is fact.

[Anonymous]

What would a legal challenge look like, exactly? APS can rezone whoever they want, right? And move programs wherever they want as well?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I have seen some of these accusations about APS employees from McKinley parents on our listserve. It's really pretty awful.

You raise a great point about option schools drawing disproportionately from their surrounding schools. Should really be the response to these "Save McKinley" types who claim there aren't going to be enough empty seats at Ashlawn and Reed to make sure they never have to experience overcrowding (a very selfish argument, if you ask me--since much of the county is past that point). But I digress. The point is, won't putting ATS there mean that Reed neighborhood families may be more likely to enroll in ATS than before. And therefore, there will be enough empty seats to satisfy them?

Not a McKinley parent, but no. Those families were already close to ATS at its current location.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I have seen some of these accusations about APS employees from McKinley parents on our listserve. It's really pretty awful.

You raise a great point about option schools drawing disproportionately from their surrounding schools. Should really be the response to these "Save McKinley" types who claim there aren't going to be enough empty seats at Ashlawn and Reed to make sure they never have to experience overcrowding (a very selfish argument, if you ask me--since much of the county is past that point). But I digress. The point is, won't putting ATS there mean that Reed neighborhood families may be more likely to enroll in ATS than before. And therefore, there will be enough empty seats to satisfy them?

Serious question - I thought McKinley, Ashlawn, and Glebe were some of the most overcrowded schools. They are definitely more overcrowded than most of the NA schools. Are many schools more overcrowded than those three?