ECNL moving to school year not calendar

[Anonymous]

When did Skip Gilbert say 8/1?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So we learned nothing. Jurgen Klinnsman sucks for inflicting birth year on us

He also pointed out how horrible and subpar youth soccer development was and started the recruitment of foreign raised and based players which immediately raised our Men's team performance, standards and rankings

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So we learned nothing. Jurgen Klinnsman sucks for inflicting birth year on us

He also pointed out how horrible and subpar youth soccer development was and started the recruitment of foreign raised and based players which immediately raised our Men's team performance, standards and rankings

From his Wikipedia lololol
On 27 February 2023, Klinsmann was announced as the head coach of South Korea, replacing Paulo Bento[68] on a contract until the conclusion of the 2026 FIFA World Cup.[69] Klinsmann has been described as highly unpopular to South Korean fans, due to his unusual practice of working while away from South Korea, his alleged lack of interest in players in the K League 1, and his questionable squad selections. Following poor performance in South Korea's friendly matches, he received heavy criticism.[70] This became increasingly problematic during the 2023 AFC Asian Cup, when South Korea had only a win and two draws at the group stages (3-1 Bahrain), (2-2 Jordan), (3-3 Malaysia), leaving them to face a challenging knockout stage draw against Saudi Arabia. During this match, Klinsmann's tactics and player selections were highly criticised.[71][72] In the end, South Korea lost to Jordan 2–0 in the semifinal on 7 February. Afterwards, Klinsmann's tactics and work ethic became the focus of scrutiny from both the South Korean public and the team.[73][74][75] On 16 February, the Korea Football Association announced the immediate termination of Klinsmann's contract, citing "failure to demonstrate leadership" as one of the reasons

[Anonymous]

To all the people who held back their kid from starting school, was your DC diagnosed with a problem before you made the decision?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Did anyone catch how he was mocking people my guess is MLSN people… We are getting the script early for directors of MLSN clubs recruiting your kids to stay grad year.

“the reason I say that is because you still have so many of these people who say, well, if you're, if you're aspiring to be a top level pro or a national team player, you have to play birth year. It's just complete garbage. Um, it has actually nothing to do with that. That's just an attempt to weaponize age groups.”

I did, my take is that MLSN didn't want to give up their advantage with their bio-banding program.

What advantage?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:To all the people who held back their kid from starting school, was your DC diagnosed with a problem before you made the decision?

No one is talking about kids who were held back. We’ve been talking about August kids who live in states with 8/1 cutoffs

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Anonymous wrote:Did anyone catch how he was mocking people my guess is MLSN people… We are getting the script early for directors of MLSN clubs recruiting your kids to stay grad year.

“the reason I say that is because you still have so many of these people who say, well, if you're, if you're aspiring to be a top level pro or a national team player, you have to play birth year. It's just complete garbage. Um, it has actually nothing to do with that. That's just an attempt to weaponize age groups.”

I did, my take is that MLSN didn't want to give up their advantage with their bio-banding program.

bio-banding is not used properly in most MLSN clubs, and players generally do not like bio-banding in their team. They are not game changers, and only play down to steal game time.

So your kid gets more bench time than you'd like because of biobanded kids (you would like to blame)

So easy to take that route vs the other one

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Did anyone catch how he was mocking people my guess is MLSN people… We are getting the script early for directors of MLSN clubs recruiting your kids to stay grad year.

“the reason I say that is because you still have so many of these people who say, well, if you're, if you're aspiring to be a top level pro or a national team player, you have to play birth year. It's just complete garbage. Um, it has actually nothing to do with that. That's just an attempt to weaponize age groups.”

I did, my take is that MLSN didn't want to give up their advantage with their bio-banding program.

bio-banding is not used properly in most MLSN clubs, and players generally do not like bio-banding in their team. They are not game changers, and only play down to steal game time.

I do not doubt that it is improperly used but let's not act like the premier league doesn't have top players that benefited from bio-banding.

MLSN is Not Premier League Academy. They are pay to play clubs and majority players there will not even be able to play college. To allow biobanding, so a mediocre player can play down and legally beat down 18 months younger player is not what sports should teach kids.

If the majority of players in MLS Next will not qualify to play college, then why even bother with all this SY change for ECNL?
They will have even less players making it to college teams.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Did anyone catch how he was mocking people my guess is MLSN people… We are getting the script early for directors of MLSN clubs recruiting your kids to stay grad year.

“the reason I say that is because you still have so many of these people who say, well, if you're, if you're aspiring to be a top level pro or a national team player, you have to play birth year. It's just complete garbage. Um, it has actually nothing to do with that. That's just an attempt to weaponize age groups.”

I did, my take is that MLSN didn't want to give up their advantage with their bio-banding program.

What advantage?

tbh I am not sure of that anymore, as a PP said that there are no kids born after May on his kid's squad. It doesn't sound like they use it properly. From the podcast today it seems like ECNL and (probably) MLSN don't see eye to eye on YNT development. According to them the age cut off is irrelevant to that. Interesting times for US Soccer, with the World Cup not far off on the horizon.

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Anonymous wrote:This is all just silly. Next week will be like this week. Well it could look like this or maybe we will go in this direction. Real answers are deep into 2025.

Didn't US Soccer say that we would know more by the end of the year and have a directive by March of 25'?

Did they say directive or say guidance? I think they will publish some parameters not mandates and then let everyone go from there -- so on that timetable ecnl would get it in March and it will take a fair amount of time to come up with what they want to do. Tryouts start in April (really earlier like January where kids start practicing with ecnl clubs) so that is not enough time to do anything.

You definitely could be right, assuming US Club had no foresight if this would pass/fail. The debate has been argued ad nauseum for 7 yrs, surely someone, somewhere has thought about what it would look like if they changed registration and also how they would go about it, before presenting. I don't think US Club will go full SY in 25'/26' but I have to think they have a plan in place to start the process. ECNL was arguing if BY was even a mandate...that does not sound like they are on the same page.

MLSN already allows 3 biobanding to play down a year under the BY mandate. I am not surprised if ECNL allows 3 Q4 players to play in their grade in 25/26. It will surely smooth the 26/27 hard transition.

Of all the clubs with MLS Next teams, how many use bio-banding?
Of all the teams in MLSN, how many has biobanded players?
How many MLSN teams have 3 bio-banding players?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:To all the people who held back their kid from starting school, was your DC diagnosed with a problem before you made the decision?

No one is talking about kids who were held back. We’ve been talking about August kids who live in states with 8/1 cutoffs

Except the people who literally said "I held back my kid"

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:To all the people who held back their kid from starting school, was your DC diagnosed with a problem before you made the decision?

No one is talking about kids who were held back. We’ve been talking about August kids who live in states with 8/1 cutoffs

Yeah I'm sure any of the posters fighting for 8/1 live in those states. This is a DC area forum, if you live here you held your child back. Your just hoping because small number of states have that cutoff.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:To all the people who held back their kid from starting school, was your DC diagnosed with a problem before you made the decision?

No one is talking about kids who were held back. We’ve been talking about August kids who live in states with 8/1 cutoffs

Except the people who literally said "I held back my kid"

Exactly - Since this started as an ECNL thread, ECNL presence in those 8 states isn't that high and could easily accommodate waivers if necessary for that small portion of August birthdays.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Did anyone catch how he was mocking people my guess is MLSN people… We are getting the script early for directors of MLSN clubs recruiting your kids to stay grad year.

“the reason I say that is because you still have so many of these people who say, well, if you're, if you're aspiring to be a top level pro or a national team player, you have to play birth year. It's just complete garbage. Um, it has actually nothing to do with that. That's just an attempt to weaponize age groups.”

I did, my take is that MLSN didn't want to give up their advantage with their bio-banding program.

bio-banding is not used properly in most MLSN clubs, and players generally do not like bio-banding in their team. They are not game changers, and only play down to steal game time.

So your kid gets more bench time than you'd like because of biobanded kids (you would like to blame)

So easy to take that route vs the other one

I am glad ECNL don't do biobanding. Q1/Q2 parents are already mad about the ECNL SY change. I can't imagine their reaction when ECNL starts biobanking.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why doesn’t ECNL just come out and say it then?

Because they have made no decisions whatsoever. There is no secret plan. They have not decided. Will not soon. Nothing will be said without ecnl board approval. And nothing will be taken to the board for a while.