What Is Going On At MSNBC?

[Anonymous]

This is my first thread in this forum, but I feel compelled to comment after watching MSNBC all day. I found it odd that Mika Brzezinski (Morning Joe) seemed to be so opposed to release of the alleged Obama/Trump briefing paper that came out yesterday (Buzzfeed and CNN). Throughout the day, various commentators continued to discredit the report, calling it 'disinformation', not intelligence. Then Chuck Todd interviewed the Buzzfeed editor and accused him of putting out fake news. Later, Chris Matthews categorically stated that the briefing paper had been revealed as 'disinformation', not 'intelligence'. As far as I could tell, no one identified how it had been determined to be disinformation.

So I did a Google search on 'CNN disinformation' and came up with a bunch of outlier sites that referenced MSNBC. These sites indicated that an unnamed 'senior intelligence official' had told MSNBC (or more generally NBC) that the report was disinformation. MSNBC clearly must have told their show hosts that this was the party line.

I am really starting to question the integrity of the media - or at least MSNBC. It has not escaped my attention that MSNBC has fired their most liberal hosts (see Ed Schultz and most of the daytime lineup), and hired Greta Van Susteren and Megyn Kelley. I don't watch MSNBC to hear Fox News. What the heck is going on?

[Anonymous]

Just turn it off. If ratings fall, they will get the message. Chuck Toodl,however, has always been horrible as has Mika.

[Anonymous]

Thank you, because I've been meaning to start a thread like this. Trumpsters scream here about how liberal it is and I came home yesterday to an interview with Alberto Gonzales and today to one with Kellyanne gd Conway. It's ridiculous.

This started a while ago, and I assume is continuing/ramping up so they will maintain access to the new administration.

http://www.mediaite.com/online/msnbc-now-openly-bragging-about-abandoning-its-liberal-brand-in-new-ad/
http://www.politico.com/media/story/2016/06/msnbc-year-of-standing-up-straight-004562

This is from two years ago when it began:
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/02/19/after-msnbc-axes-ronan-farrow-and-joy-reid-s-shows-is-chris-hayes-next.html

[Anonymous]

So the briefing was put together to show trump a disinformation campaign. Who knows why! It was disinformation and labeled as disinformation. Someone leaked it- Henry Reid has been making a fuse. The info has been out for a long time and no one could verify it.

CNN and buzzfeed rolled it out as truth from the intelligence agencies and said trump was briefed on it. The reporting was shady- i.e. basically one division of corporate media reporting on another division's report. Trump did not receive the briefing. It was give to his people in DC( there was disinformation about the Clinton foundation in the same briefing). It's a cluster f@ck. It really under cuts the media.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So the briefing was put together to show trump a disinformation campaign. Who knows why! It was disinformation and labeled as disinformation. Someone leaked it- Henry Reid has been making a fuse. The info has been out for a long time and no one could verify it.

CNN and buzzfeed rolled it out as truth from the intelligence agencies and said trump was briefed on it. The reporting was shady- i.e. basically one division of corporate media reporting on another division's report. Trump did not receive the briefing. It was give to his people in DC( there was disinformation about the Clinton foundation in the same briefing). It's a cluster f@ck. It really under cuts the media.

This is an interesting way to put it. You are putting most of the blame on CNN and Buzzfeed, saying that their reporting was shady. The intel meeting last Friday is secondary, in youor view. This is all a media issue.

The classified 2 page synopsis is really the important paper. It has the verifiable and verified information from the 35 page memo of raw data. But it's classified, so we the public haven't seen it. Nor has CNN or Buzzfeed.

[Anonymous]

new NBC News report contradicts reporting from CNN about a 35-page dossier about Donald Trump’s alleged ties to Russia that was then posted online by Buzzfeed.

A senior U.S. intelligence official told NBC News that Trump was not briefed on the two-page summary, which directly contradicts CNN’s report, and the addendum was prepared for the briefing only to provide an example of unvetted “disinformation.”

The official, who had knowledge of the preparation for the meeting with Trump, said the two-page summary of the unsubstantiated material was intended to illustrate for the president-elect the difference between raw intelligence and analyzed intelligence.

U.S. intelligence officials told Trump on Friday that Russian President Vladimir Putin directed a campaign to “undermine public faith” in the democratic process and to hobble Hillary Clinton’s election chances.

CNN reported Tuesday that multiple U.S. officials said both Trump and President Barack Obama were briefed on the two-page summary of findings gathered by a former British intelligence operative, who alleged that Russia had gained compromising information on the president-elect.

https://www.rawstory.com/2017/01/nbc-news-contradicts-cnn-golden-showers-memo-is-disinformation-and-was-not-shown-to-trump/

Bad reporting or just partisan hacks...if it continues Trump will have 8 years.

[Anonymous]

Fired and sidelined a lot of good people including Melissa Harris Perry

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

new NBC News report contradicts reporting from CNN about a 35-page dossier about Donald Trump’s alleged ties to Russia that was then posted online by Buzzfeed.

A senior U.S. intelligence official told NBC News that Trump was not briefed on the two-page summary, which directly contradicts CNN’s report, and the addendum was prepared for the briefing only to provide an example of unvetted “disinformation.”

The official, who had knowledge of the preparation for the meeting with Trump, said the two-page summary of the unsubstantiated material was intended to illustrate for the president-elect the difference between raw intelligence and analyzed intelligence.

U.S. intelligence officials told Trump on Friday that Russian President Vladimir Putin directed a campaign to “undermine public faith” in the democratic process and to hobble Hillary Clinton’s election chances.

CNN reported Tuesday that multiple U.S. officials said both Trump and President Barack Obama were briefed on the two-page summary of findings gathered by a former British intelligence operative, who alleged that Russia had gained compromising information on the president-elect.

https://www.rawstory.com/2017/01/nbc-news-contradicts-cnn-golden-showers-memo-is-disinformation-and-was-not-shown-to-trump/

Bad reporting or just partisan hacks...if it continues Trump will have 8 years.

And other sources say that Trump was given the addendum.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/classified-us-intel-report-russia-gathered-compromising-info-on-trump/

A source tells CBS News [the addendum] was part of the most classified report, that only would have been presented to the president, the president-elect and Gang of 8, which is made up of the top Democrat and Republican in the House and the Senate and the chair and ranking members of the House and Senate Intelligence committees.

It is unclear whether this was actually discussed with Mr. Trump or just part of the materials presented to him during his briefing last Friday.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Just turn it off. If ratings fall, they will get the message. Chuck Toodl,however, has always been horrible as has Mika.

MSNBC could not get any lower ratings. They are trying not to be a podcast at this point.

[Anonymous]

So the briefing was put together to show trump a disinformation campaign. Who knows why! It was disinformation and labeled as disinformation.

Who says? I have not heard a named intelligence source state that. Why should we believe that it was disinformation?

Someone leaked it- Henry Reid has been making a fuse. The info has been out for a long time and no one could verify it.

Who has tried to verify it? And who knows what the definition of 'verify' is any more. Just because it allegedly has not been 'verified' does not mean it's not true.

CNN and buzzfeed rolled it out as truth from the intelligence agencies and said trump was briefed on it.

Actually, CNN was very careful to say that they didn't know if it was true or not.

The reporting was shady- i.e. basically one division of corporate media reporting on another division's report. Trump did not receive the briefing. It was give to his people in DC( there was disinformation about the Clinton foundation in the same briefing).

Who says? Again, who do we believe on this?

It's a cluster f@ck. It really under cuts the media.

It's a cluster f@ck all right. This is what happens when investigative journalism is considered by corporate news sources to be a frill.

[Anonymous]

Trump obviously has long-time connections at NBC. I wouldn't be surprised if he'd collude to help them sink, or at least damage, CNN.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Fired and sidelined a lot of good people including Melissa Harris Perry

You're joking, she was horrible.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Fired and sidelined a lot of good people including Melissa Harris Perry

Oh god, she was insufferable. Remember when she suggested using the term "hard work" was racist?

[Anonymous]

Maybe MSNBC is beginning to understand that people will only watch their programming if they present news and information in a fair and unbiased way.

23:17 - My understanding is that this information has been out there for some time. You don’t think that members of the media haven’t tried to confirm the crap in the document? Or, members of our intelligence community? Relying on “unsubstantiated reports” as news is disinformation.

OP - It speaks volumes that you are offended that the anchors and personalities on MSNBC refuse to give this story any kind of credibility when nothing has been substantiated.
You want so badly for it to be true, I know, but it isn’t. You want so badly to come up with yet another reason to question the outcome of this election.
Your bias is showing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Fired and sidelined a lot of good people including Melissa Harris Perry

Oh god, she was insufferable. Remember when she suggested using the term "hard work" was racist?

I agree. Or, when she donned tampons as earrings? She is horrible.