Super Bowl 59

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:There was a lot of symbolism that probably went over MAGA because they are simple minded, but here are some:


⁠"clown car" at the beginning with the people coming out in red, white and blue

Samuel L Jackson as Uncle Sam chastising the black man for being too loud, noisy, and ghetto and praising him for being calm and quiet later on.

at one point there were only female dancers, all dressed in red. I think this was referencing handmaid's tale

Kendrick said "the revolution will be televised. But you picked the wrong guy"

"Turn off the TV"

The American flag was divided

⁠at one point there were dancers in white laying on the floor like they had been shot. Almost looked like those chalk drawings on crime shows


I’m not MAGA but I didn’t get all the symbolism either. I knew it was against America.

Someone said it also showed America was built on the backs of black people. I disagree.
Black people can hoop and holler all they want about this but if you don’t come out and vote, you get what we got. A racist in the White House and his racist buddies running three country. Democrats may not do as much as blacks would want, but at least they try.

Thank you for the explanation on the half time show.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There was a lot of symbolism that probably went over MAGA because they are simple minded, but here are some:


⁠"clown car" at the beginning with the people coming out in red, white and blue

Samuel L Jackson as Uncle Sam chastising the black man for being too loud, noisy, and ghetto and praising him for being calm and quiet later on.

at one point there were only female dancers, all dressed in red. I think this was referencing handmaid's tale

Kendrick said "the revolution will be televised. But you picked the wrong guy"

"Turn off the TV"

The American flag was divided

⁠at one point there were dancers in white laying on the floor like they had been shot. Almost looked like those chalk drawings on crime shows


I’m not MAGA but I didn’t get all the symbolism either. I knew it was against America.

Someone said it also showed America was built on the backs of black people. I disagree.
Black people can hoop and holler all they want about this but if you don’t come out and vote, you get what we got. A racist in the White House and his racist buddies running three country. Democrats may not do as much as blacks would want, but at least they try.

Thank you for the explanation on the half time show.


Black people are 12 percent of the population and overwhelmingly voted democrat, what are you talking about?
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Anonymous wrote:I’m just watching it for the liberal meltdown that will come after the cheers for Trump overtake the stadium.


Well that didn’t happen - lotta boos and crude finger gestures towards his box window doe - despite Fix News continuing its propaganda about how well liked DT is


No those were saved for Taylor. DT is well liked, why he also won the popular vote. Nice try.


Nah. Those were just a few Eagles fans upset their Philly girl is cheering for KC now.

DT is not well liked.
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Anonymous wrote:Highlight for me was when KL looked at the camera, smiling maniacally and said "say Drake!" I love the symbolism of the divided flag and all black dancers. I knew all the songs except the Tiramisu verse. Hoonorable mention that KL does not degrade women in his music.
-Gen xer w/ teens



Does not degrade women?

How? You mean like Lil’ John, whose lyrics include “ ‘til all these females crawl! “ ?? Or the constant references to “bishes a money!” in rap?

BTW - Lil John’s Get Low was played at the DNC, but what evs. lol

KL does not degrade women in his songs. I'm not a Lil Jon fan; however, growing up I did listen to rappers who were very explicit. As an older person, I understand that music is an art form. I do not get offended by songs or lyrics. I tend to favor rappers, like KL, who are thoughtful. I stay up to date with comtemporary music because I have teens and I want to know what they listen to. I would never censor their choices, nor would I clutch my pearls over performers rapping about sex or dropping the n word. The line I draw is that my white kids are not to say, rap or sing the word...but they already know that.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I’m just watching it for the liberal meltdown that will come after the cheers for Trump overtake the stadium.


Well that didn’t happen - lotta boos and crude finger gestures towards his box window doe - despite Fix News continuing its propaganda about how well liked DT is


No those were saved for Taylor. DT is well liked, why he also won the popular vote. Nice try.


Nah. Those were just a few Eagles fans upset their Philly girl is cheering for KC now.

DT is not well liked.


Cracks me up that anyone thinks she liked or watched football before she dated Travis. His dad, Ed Kelce, even spilled the beans in an interview. He said a year ago she didn't know the difference between a field goal or extra point and praised how fast she's learned.

https://people.com/travis-kelces-dad-ed-shares-moment-taylor-swift-impressed-him-at-chiefs-game-8787782

Swifties can create such elaborate stories in their heads about her - total lore they make up - and it suddenly becomes cannon. Wearing a jersey or changing a lyric during a song in Philly doesn't mean she's some lifelong fan. It was her pandering to her "hometown" crowd. Simple. And I say all that as a huge Swiftie who has seen her many times in concert.
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I do find it weird no white people at all. And I am absolutely anti-MAGA.

Anonymous wrote:Well they probably weren’t as good and we don’t need to make DEI hires now.

🤣
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Anonymous wrote:I thought the dancers were really good.


I agree. Clearly lots of rehearsing time. I respect that.

I don't like rap at all. But this show was fine and entertaining.

I do find it weird no white people at all. And I am absolutely anti-MAGA.


Well they probably weren’t as good and we don’t need to make DEI hires now.


+1 The dancing roles should go only to those who are deserving and have the proper skills--not just because someone is white.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I’m just watching it for the liberal meltdown that will come after the cheers for Trump overtake the stadium.


Well that didn’t happen - lotta boos and crude finger gestures towards his box window doe - despite Fix News continuing its propaganda about how well liked DT is


No those were saved for Taylor. DT is well liked, why he also won the popular vote. Nice try.


Nah. Those were just a few Eagles fans upset their Philly girl is cheering for KC now.

DT is not well liked.


Cracks me up that anyone thinks she liked or watched football before she dated Travis. His dad, Ed Kelce, even spilled the beans in an interview. He said a year ago she didn't know the difference between a field goal or extra point and praised how fast she's learned.

https://people.com/travis-kelces-dad-ed-shares-moment-taylor-swift-impressed-him-at-chiefs-game-8787782

Swifties can create such elaborate stories in their heads about her - total lore they make up - and it suddenly becomes cannon. Wearing a jersey or changing a lyric during a song in Philly doesn't mean she's some lifelong fan. It was her pandering to her "hometown" crowd. Simple. And I say all that as a huge Swiftie who has seen her many times in concert.


Well, of course. "Know your audience" is one of the simple rules of good communication. That's why Trump says the random crud he does. He knows some people like it.

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Anonymous wrote:They really need to stop it with the rap and hip hop artists. They just do not appeal to a mass audience, and I don't think they are young kid friendly, when the super bowl should be a family friendly event. I don't want my 5 year old watching something so intertwined with rape and violence, and I don't need to listen to some guy's petty personal feud with another rapper and calling out pedophilia. Why is it so hard to understand that none of this is appealing? People just want to be entertained and by happy for that one night.

My 70 old parents don't watch much football and don't know anything about modern music but they thoroughly enjoyed Lady Gaga's halftime show a few years back. Ever since then, their reactions are pretty much wtf am I watching. And no, they are not white.



Did they find the commercials with bad words appealing? I was not happy to hear cursing during the ads. I didn’t expect it so I couldn’t mute it in time so my kids heard the words

The rap? Unless you know the words how would you have been able to follow? I didn’t hear any bad words for that performance. I had already sent my kids to bed anyway but I didn’t hear any bad words in the rapper’s performance …but I did hear cursing on the commercials while my kids were watching…I wish people were more upset about that then a rapper reciting words that they
couldn’t understand. The outrage is interesting and backwards in my opinion.


Love the way Kendrick’s music usually includes the “N” word. Great message for my kids; just great.

Really irrelevant he scrubbed the Superbowl show of the “N” word last night because every tween and teen in America is looking up his N-word songs on YouTube this morning.

Again - great message, NFL.



Are your kids also looking up the words grab them by….spoken by our very own President? Are you at all concerned about the wonderful role model that he is? Please. You are trying so hard to justify why you are mad about the show. Simply say you didn’t like it and move on. Bringing the whole “save the kids” argument regarding the ht show that was performed last night is just silly and a reach.



So you are fine with the “N” word then, right?
Great! Glad we clarified that.

So you also agree your whole DEI-farce was just that: a farce; just more racism masquerading as virtue.



Umm. KL is black last time I checked. He can use the “N” word as much as he wants. You clearly don’t understand the culture.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There was a lot of symbolism that probably went over MAGA because they are simple minded, but here are some:


⁠"clown car" at the beginning with the people coming out in red, white and blue

Samuel L Jackson as Uncle Sam chastising the black man for being too loud, noisy, and ghetto and praising him for being calm and quiet later on.

at one point there were only female dancers, all dressed in red. I think this was referencing handmaid's tale

Kendrick said "the revolution will be televised. But you picked the wrong guy"

"Turn off the TV"

The American flag was divided

⁠at one point there were dancers in white laying on the floor like they had been shot. Almost looked like those chalk drawings on crime shows


I’m not MAGA but I didn’t get all the symbolism either. I knew it was against America.

Someone said it also showed America was built on the backs of black people. I disagree.
Black people can hoop and holler all they want about this but if you don’t come out and vote, you get what we got. A racist in the White House and his racist buddies running three country. Democrats may not do as much as blacks would want, but at least they try.

Thank you for the explanation on the half time show.


Look up seven generations healing and try to understand what generational healing is. This wasn’t just about broken brain maga. It was a celebration of culture.

Black voters work harder than many to make to the polls and struggle through really ridiculous obstacles Election Day.


I found it utterly beautiful.





- GenX perimenopausal Caucasian Lady.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:The intellectual rap vibe might just not be for everyone. I don’t like country and I would probably skip some deep country music halftime.


+100

I despise country music.

Even Cowboy Carter is too country for me. Lol
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:The intellectual rap vibe might just not be for everyone. I don’t like country and I would probably skip some deep country music halftime.


I agree, but rap wouldn't be considered intellectual by any means. Maybe someone like Pavarotti, not country or rap.
+1 Now that would be different!
Anonymous
This is the best summary of the performance that I have read:

“Kendrick told the story of Black male unadulterated authenticity. The iconography alone was brilliant.

Black men in durags.
Black men in formation of the American flag.
Black men in dreads, and golds singing du wop.
Black men not presented in a safe lense.

Samuel L. Jackson AKA “Uncle Sam” (The Ring Master), it was at that moment, the characters were set. Samuel represents the “Safe, Performative, Docile” negro. He’s pleading with him to make white America comfortable. Kendrick is clearly the antithesis of that.

Kendrick is clearly in a defiant mood and performs squabble up.

Uncle Sam responds by screaming at him to “Stop being so loud and ghetto!”

Kendrick responds by playing “Humble”
‘Be humble, sit down’. It’s noticeable that Black men are the American flag as he performs this acquiescence.

Then he remembers himself plays “DNA”.
“Royalty & Loyalty in my DNA”

This is when the crowd lights up with the message “Warning, wrong way”

Then he plays Euphoria. Cries out… “I’m reaping what I sow, okay?!!”

Transitioning into “Man in the Garden” where he recites how he deserves it all….the success and the criticism that comes with it. In the midst of it all trying to remain authentic.….hence why Samuel L. Jackson says….

“Oh I see you brought your Homeboys with you. Score keeper deduct one life!”

K Dot then leans into album favorite Peakaboo…I think it’s important to note the line that embodies that song “What they talking about, they talking about nuthin…”. His defiance is evident, even as he realizes the fakeness of it all.

At this point he ushers in SZA and embarks on what Uncle Sam lauds him for performing nice and easy “This is what America wants to see….”

Kendrick smiles in the camera and plays the controversial song that garnered him acclaim….with Record & Song of the year….so the question is….isn’t this what America wanted?!?

Not Like Us is performed. Including the verse that has ruined Drake’s entire life.

He then ends with TV off. With the message being

“Game Over”

Essentially telling us the ‘Game’ that he was expected to play…is over….he didn’t do what was expected…and yet he sort of did.

He literally told us before NLU was performed that “This is Bigger than the music” and I have people on the timeline arguing about the music.

Truth be told. This performance may not be everyone’s cup of tea. That’s okay. I believe a message was sent to make people, particularly white America uncomfortable. Not an easily digestible show.

He was reclaiming the idea of Black male identity on a white stage. He did that tenfold. In the face of Uncle Sam, in the face of the sitting President who attempted to use Black men to divide our race-in which he was mildly successful in that. Kendrick addressed this with only a subtle gesture of someone who thinks before he speaks.

I appreciate a show that required me to focus in and peel back what was being done.

He told you that the revolution will be televised. You picked the right time. But the wrong guy. He meant that.

Special shout out to Serena Williams who made a special appearance, crip walking- an obvious nod to when she did this after a victory and was immediately lambasted by media for being “To Ghetto, Too Black”. Obviously Serena being from the same neighborhood of Kendrick and also shot at Drake.”
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:This is the best summary of the performance that I have read:

“Kendrick told the story of Black male unadulterated authenticity. The iconography alone was brilliant.

Black men in durags.
Black men in formation of the American flag.
Black men in dreads, and golds singing du wop.
Black men not presented in a safe lense.

Samuel L. Jackson AKA “Uncle Sam” (The Ring Master), it was at that moment, the characters were set. Samuel represents the “Safe, Performative, Docile” negro. He’s pleading with him to make white America comfortable. Kendrick is clearly the antithesis of that.

Kendrick is clearly in a defiant mood and performs squabble up.

Uncle Sam responds by screaming at him to “Stop being so loud and ghetto!”

Kendrick responds by playing “Humble”
‘Be humble, sit down’. It’s noticeable that Black men are the American flag as he performs this acquiescence.

Then he remembers himself plays “DNA”.
“Royalty & Loyalty in my DNA”

This is when the crowd lights up with the message “Warning, wrong way”

Then he plays Euphoria. Cries out… “I’m reaping what I sow, okay?!!”

Transitioning into “Man in the Garden” where he recites how he deserves it all….the success and the criticism that comes with it. In the midst of it all trying to remain authentic.….hence why Samuel L. Jackson says….

“Oh I see you brought your Homeboys with you. Score keeper deduct one life!”

K Dot then leans into album favorite Peakaboo…I think it’s important to note the line that embodies that song “What they talking about, they talking about nuthin…”. His defiance is evident, even as he realizes the fakeness of it all.

At this point he ushers in SZA and embarks on what Uncle Sam lauds him for performing nice and easy “This is what America wants to see….”

Kendrick smiles in the camera and plays the controversial song that garnered him acclaim….with Record & Song of the year….so the question is….isn’t this what America wanted?!?

Not Like Us is performed. Including the verse that has ruined Drake’s entire life.

He then ends with TV off. With the message being

“Game Over”

Essentially telling us the ‘Game’ that he was expected to play…is over….he didn’t do what was expected…and yet he sort of did.

He literally told us before NLU was performed that “This is Bigger than the music” and I have people on the timeline arguing about the music.

Truth be told. This performance may not be everyone’s cup of tea. That’s okay. I believe a message was sent to make people, particularly white America uncomfortable. Not an easily digestible show.

He was reclaiming the idea of Black male identity on a white stage. He did that tenfold. In the face of Uncle Sam, in the face of the sitting President who attempted to use Black men to divide our race-in which he was mildly successful in that. Kendrick addressed this with only a subtle gesture of someone who thinks before he speaks.

I appreciate a show that required me to focus in and peel back what was being done.

He told you that the revolution will be televised. You picked the right time. But the wrong guy. He meant that.

Special shout out to Serena Williams who made a special appearance, crip walking- an obvious nod to when she did this after a victory and was immediately lambasted by media for being “To Ghetto, Too Black”. Obviously Serena being from the same neighborhood of Kendrick and also shot at Drake.”


THANK YOU
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