CALENDAR: O days and new material

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Seems like it would have been easier to just have the four originally proposed days off.


Easier yes. Legal. No.

Then again, this is very much not legal.


The O days are not legal in the slightest. They are picking and choosing religious holidays to honor w/o a secular basis. Their own data do not support these days. Their own lawyers told them not to do it.

Is there a legal challenge in the works?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Seems like it would have been easier to just have the four originally proposed days off.


Easier yes. Legal. No.

Then again, this is very much not legal.


If it is not legal why do Arlington, Loudoun and PWCS have these days off?


They were following Fairfax and thought Fairfax had talked to their lawyer. Clown car of incompetence.


At least for APS, they had data that it would effect the ability of schools to be staffed. The number of students observing these holidays was not high, but they had a significant amount of staff absences on those days.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Seems like it would have been easier to just have the four originally proposed days off.


Easier yes. Legal. No.

Then again, this is very much not legal.


If it is not legal why do Arlington, Loudoun and PWCS have these days off?


They were following Fairfax and thought Fairfax had talked to their lawyer. Clown car of incompetence.


At least for APS, they had data that it would effect the ability of schools to be staffed. The number of students observing these holidays was not high, but they had a significant amount of staff absences on those days.


Not lining up spring break with the other counties was a huge error. I predict a huge number of covid “exposures” for staff that have kids in other school districts.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Seems like it would have been easier to just have the four originally proposed days off.


Easier yes. Legal. No.

Then again, this is very much not legal.


The O days are not legal in the slightest. They are picking and choosing religious holidays to honor w/o a secular basis. Their own data do not support these days. Their own lawyers told them not to do it.

Is there a legal challenge in the works?


What about those that follow Sharia law?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Seems like it would have been easier to just have the four originally proposed days off.


Easier yes. Legal. No.

Then again, this is very much not legal.


The O days are not legal in the slightest. They are picking and choosing religious holidays to honor w/o a secular basis. Their own data do not support these days. Their own lawyers told them not to do it.

Is there a legal challenge in the works?


Yes, I'm the Church of Satan pp above. I have an attorney ready to go after the first O day since I'm likely to get attorneys fees when I win.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Whose kids are already running into problems with teachers giving tests or introducing new material on O days? Rosh Hashanah is next week, marked as a religious observance (O) day.


How can you be running into problems already? We haven't had on O day yet. The first one is next Tuesday.


My child already has a problem - teacher scheduled quiz for Tuesday next week; child told teacher she will be out for Rosh Hashanah. Not sure when the make up quiz will be or what it will conflict with. But, this is not how the new "O" policy is supposed to work, and SB assured everyone there would be very clear training about it from the Superintendent's office.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Whose kids are already running into problems with teachers giving tests or introducing new material on O days? Rosh Hashanah is next week, marked as a religious observance (O) day.


How can you be running into problems already? We haven't had on O day yet. The first one is next Tuesday.


My child already has a problem - teacher scheduled quiz for Tuesday next week; child told teacher she will be out for Rosh Hashanah. Not sure when the make up quiz will be or what it will conflict with. But, this is not how the new "O" policy is supposed to work, and SB assured everyone there would be very clear training about it from the Superintendent's office.


Your first mistake was trusting the SB when they assured you of anything.

Your second was expecting clear anything from Brabrand.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Whose kids are already running into problems with teachers giving tests or introducing new material on O days? Rosh Hashanah is next week, marked as a religious observance (O) day.


How can you be running into problems already? We haven't had on O day yet. The first one is next Tuesday.


My child already has a problem - teacher scheduled quiz for Tuesday next week; child told teacher she will be out for Rosh Hashanah. Not sure when the make up quiz will be or what it will conflict with. But, this is not how the new "O" policy is supposed to work, and SB assured everyone there would be very clear training about it from the Superintendent's office.


Then you have plenty of time to contact the school principal regarding this matter. They will direct the teacher to reschedule the quiz. Problem solved.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Whose kids are already running into problems with teachers giving tests or introducing new material on O days? Rosh Hashanah is next week, marked as a religious observance (O) day.


How can you be running into problems already? We haven't had on O day yet. The first one is next Tuesday.


My child already has a problem - teacher scheduled quiz for Tuesday next week; child told teacher she will be out for Rosh Hashanah. Not sure when the make up quiz will be or what it will conflict with. But, this is not how the new "O" policy is supposed to work, and SB assured everyone there would be very clear training about it from the Superintendent's office.


There was VERY clear training. I had to sit through a video, take a quiz, sit through powerpoint slides during back to school week, accept calendar invites with the rules attached to them, and have gotten multiple emails reminding me of the rules. Any teacher scheduling quizzes on that day is ignoring the rules, they aren't unaware.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Whose kids are already running into problems with teachers giving tests or introducing new material on O days? Rosh Hashanah is next week, marked as a religious observance (O) day.


How can you be running into problems already? We haven't had on O day yet. The first one is next Tuesday.


My child already has a problem - teacher scheduled quiz for Tuesday next week; child told teacher she will be out for Rosh Hashanah. Not sure when the make up quiz will be or what it will conflict with. But, this is not how the new "O" policy is supposed to work, and SB assured everyone there would be very clear training about it from the Superintendent's office.


There was VERY clear training. I had to sit through a video, take a quiz, sit through powerpoint slides during back to school week, accept calendar invites with the rules attached to them, and have gotten multiple emails reminding me of the rules. Any teacher scheduling quizzes on that day is ignoring the rules, they aren't unaware.



Yup! This! Teacher is choosing not to follow rules and this should be made aware to admin. I am against the no teaching new content, but think no assessments and events on a holiday is absolutely fair.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Whose kids are already running into problems with teachers giving tests or introducing new material on O days? Rosh Hashanah is next week, marked as a religious observance (O) day.


How can you be running into problems already? We haven't had on O day yet. The first one is next Tuesday.


My child already has a problem - teacher scheduled quiz for Tuesday next week; child told teacher she will be out for Rosh Hashanah. Not sure when the make up quiz will be or what it will conflict with. But, this is not how the new "O" policy is supposed to work, and SB assured everyone there would be very clear training about it from the Superintendent's office.


There was VERY clear training. I had to sit through a video, take a quiz, sit through powerpoint slides during back to school week, accept calendar invites with the rules attached to them, and have gotten multiple emails reminding me of the rules. Any teacher scheduling quizzes on that day is ignoring the rules, they aren't unaware.



Yup! This! Teacher is choosing not to follow rules and this should be made aware to admin. I am against the no teaching new content, but think no assessments and events on a holiday is absolutely fair.


Yup, will confirm the many many trainings and communications about this. The teacher either didn't do them, or is ignoring them.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Whose kids are already running into problems with teachers giving tests or introducing new material on O days? Rosh Hashanah is next week, marked as a religious observance (O) day.


How can you be running into problems already? We haven't had on O day yet. The first one is next Tuesday.


My child already has a problem - teacher scheduled quiz for Tuesday next week; child told teacher she will be out for Rosh Hashanah. Not sure when the make up quiz will be or what it will conflict with. But, this is not how the new "O" policy is supposed to work, and SB assured everyone there would be very clear training about it from the Superintendent's office.


There was VERY clear training. I had to sit through a video, take a quiz, sit through powerpoint slides during back to school week, accept calendar invites with the rules attached to them, and have gotten multiple emails reminding me of the rules. Any teacher scheduling quizzes on that day is ignoring the rules, they aren't unaware.


+1
In our LA CT last week we purposely scheduled exit tickets and possible iReady dates around the upcoming “O” dates.

ES Teacher
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Seems like it would have been easier to just have the four originally proposed days off.


Easier yes. Legal. No.

Then again, this is very much not legal.


The O days are not legal in the slightest. They are picking and choosing religious holidays to honor w/o a secular basis. Their own data do not support these days. Their own lawyers told them not to do it.

Is there a legal challenge in the works?


What law are they breaking?
Anonymous
High school and middle school classes meet every other day.

This means that the dozen or so zeor days are actually 24+ zero days, because the teacher cannot mover forward on the A days if the B days are on a zero day.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Yup. I was told I can't even play review games because that would give some kids more learning opportunities than others. Nowhere is that written in the insane regulation. They gave us a lot of what-not-to-do and very little as far as suggestions for what we CAN do.


You must have missed the email where they told us we can share information about the holiday


Haha, yep!


So if fcps is suggesting that teachers are to share lessons on the newly added non Christian religious holidays, is fcps is also now recommending that teachers share lessons on the Christian holidays such as Christmas and Easter that were previously not supposed to be mentioned in favor of generic "holiday" or "winter"?

I stongly support adding, recognizing and teaching the major holidays of different religions, but fcps now saying teachers should teach several faith's holidays as religious holidays, while for years not allowing any mantion even if the name of another faith's holidays unless it was in a purely distorted secular way is just unacceptable.

If fcps is adding all these religions holidays to the calendar and curriculum, then Christmas and Easter as religious holidays (not just snowmen and bunnies) needs to also be included in the curriculum.
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