If You Want to Get Away From Lucy Caulkins/Balanced Literacy For Reading

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:the parents of dyslexic children have been screaming about this for years and have been ignored. Glad to see the NAACP is taking up the issue. FCPS should be sued over their lack of a reading program that actually works.

NAACP, Fairfax-SEPTA and DD-VA are behind this push. With the addition of the NAACP, there is a critical mass to make it happen.

Nothing would have happened without the NAACP and there is no reason language arts-reading cannot be fixed for this summer or the 2021-22 school year. Each year is another waste of potential in learning to read and learning to read to learn. It is totally ironic that students and families have had to suffer for decades when all it took is an effort by the NAACP.

But now Virginia is working on removing solid math instruction. The NAACP needs to speak up and throw Qarni out. Over 2 decades ago FCPS had squat except educrats blabber on why it had crap reading programs.

The fcps pos is why full day kindergarten valid studies on cohort groups had diminishing returns. Gain evaporated and the same thing happened in it's longitudinal pre k study.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:the parents of dyslexic children have been screaming about this for years and have been ignored. Glad to see the NAACP is taking up the issue. FCPS should be sued over their lack of a reading program that actually works.

NAACP, Fairfax-SEPTA and DD-VA are behind this push. With the addition of the NAACP, there is a critical mass to make it happen.

Nothing would have happened without the NAACP and there is no reason language arts-reading cannot be fixed for this summer or the 2021-22 school year. Each year is another waste of potential in learning to read and learning to read to learn. It is totally ironic that students and families have had to suffer for decades when all it took is an effort by the NAACP.

But now Virginia is working on removing solid math instruction. The NAACP needs to speak up and throw Qarni out. Over 2 decades ago FCPS had squat except educrats blabber on why it had crap reading programs.

The fcps pos is why full day kindergarten valid studies on cohort groups had diminishing returns. Gain evaporated and the same thing happened in it's longitudinal pre k study.

I totally agree with this. When you speak up to the school board about structured literacy, also speak up about making sure VMPI doesn't throw away evidence-based math instruction (multi-sensory math in the early grades and an appropriate balance of drill/memorization with real world instruction rather than exclusively one or the other - really just a proven curriculum like Singapore or Saxon would be great). I'm a bit concerned about VMPI removing tracking. I'm more concerned about them combining pre-Algebra through Algebra II into 3 years instead of 4. I'm MOST concerned about them dumbing down elementary math even further from how slow it already is.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:the parents of dyslexic children have been screaming about this for years and have been ignored. Glad to see the NAACP is taking up the issue. FCPS should be sued over their lack of a reading program that actually works.

NAACP, Fairfax-SEPTA and DD-VA are behind this push. With the addition of the NAACP, there is a critical mass to make it happen.

Nothing would have happened without the NAACP and there is no reason language arts-reading cannot be fixed for this summer or the 2021-22 school year. Each year is another waste of potential in learning to read and learning to read to learn. It is totally ironic that students and families have had to suffer for decades when all it took is an effort by the NAACP.

But now Virginia is working on removing solid math instruction. The NAACP needs to speak up and throw Qarni out. Over 2 decades ago FCPS had squat except educrats blabber on why it had crap reading programs.

The fcps pos is why full day kindergarten valid studies on cohort groups had diminishing returns. Gain evaporated and the same thing happened in it's longitudinal pre k study.

DP. I agree that reading instruction can be improved and that math instruction should not be dismantled.

But to be fair, the lack of long term gains from preK and full day K is not a FCPS issue. The lack of real gains from these programs is seen everywhere.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:DP. My DC told me in 1st grade that "Good readers look at the pictures."

Uh what? Good readers look at the letters/words.

Good readers do a combination of both.

Uh, no. And anyone who studies the (well-established) science of reading would understand that looking at pictures is not reading, and it's a huge disservice to children to suggest that it helps.

Good readers have a variety of tools, and pictures can be one of them.

You really should check out some of the cognitive science on reading and check out what is happening with literacy rates thanks to a emphasis on reading strategies that aren’t decoding. The science on learning to read is surprisingly straightforward, and kids should never have to look at a picture to understand a word or it’s meaning in context.

The person you are responding to can't understand what you are trying to convey.

You didn't post any pictures!

[Anonymous]

Ever time I see that darn Balanced Literacy poster, I think of this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Ever time I see that darn Balanced Literacy poster, I think of this.

Hilarious.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:the parents of dyslexic children have been screaming about this for years and have been ignored. Glad to see the NAACP is taking up the issue. FCPS should be sued over their lack of a reading program that actually works.

NAACP, Fairfax-SEPTA and DD-VA are behind this push. With the addition of the NAACP, there is a critical mass to make it happen.

Nothing would have happened without the NAACP and there is no reason language arts-reading cannot be fixed for this summer or the 2021-22 school year. Each year is another waste of potential in learning to read and learning to read to learn. It is totally ironic that students and families have had to suffer for decades when all it took is an effort by the NAACP.

But now Virginia is working on removing solid math instruction. The NAACP needs to speak up and throw Qarni out. Over 2 decades ago FCPS had squat except educrats blabber on why it had crap reading programs.

The fcps pos is why full day kindergarten valid studies on cohort groups had diminishing returns. Gain evaporated and the same thing happened in it's longitudinal pre k study.

DP. I agree that reading instruction can be improved and that math instruction should not be dismantled.

But to be fair, the lack of long term gains from preK and full day K is not a FCPS issue. The lack of real gains from these programs is seen everywhere.

No it is an FCPS issue. We have lower class sizes and massive resources going into Title 1 schools. This is not a massive struggling urban decay district like Philadelphia or Baltimore. FCPS should not have had the level of diminishing returns in it's longitudinal studies. Years ago a title 1 school had great objective SOL test results. Might have had phonics, core knowledge, and saxon math.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/local/2003/11/13/a-school-that-strives-to-serve-its-community/cde3f25e-fdb6-4358-95b0-10b25006ecc6/

The educrats won - goodbye phonics, core knowledge, the math.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:the parents of dyslexic children have been screaming about this for years and have been ignored. Glad to see the NAACP is taking up the issue. FCPS should be sued over their lack of a reading program that actually works.

NAACP, Fairfax-SEPTA and DD-VA are behind this push. With the addition of the NAACP, there is a critical mass to make it happen.

Nothing would have happened without the NAACP and there is no reason language arts-reading cannot be fixed for this summer or the 2021-22 school year. Each year is another waste of potential in learning to read and learning to read to learn. It is totally ironic that students and families have had to suffer for decades when all it took is an effort by the NAACP.

But now Virginia is working on removing solid math instruction. The NAACP needs to speak up and throw Qarni out. Over 2 decades ago FCPS had squat except educrats blabber on why it had crap reading programs.

The fcps pos is why full day kindergarten valid studies on cohort groups had diminishing returns. Gain evaporated and the same thing happened in it's longitudinal pre k study.

DP. I agree that reading instruction can be improved and that math instruction should not be dismantled.

But to be fair, the lack of long term gains from preK and full day K is not a FCPS issue. The lack of real gains from these programs is seen everywhere.

No it is an FCPS issue. We have lower class sizes and massive resources going into Title 1 schools. This is not a massive struggling urban decay district like Philadelphia or Baltimore. FCPS should not have had the level of diminishing returns in it's longitudinal studies. Years ago a title 1 school had great objective SOL test results. Might have had phonics, core knowledge, and saxon math.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/local/2003/11/13/a-school-that-strives-to-serve-its-community/cde3f25e-fdb6-4358-95b0-10b25006ecc6/

The educrats won - goodbye phonics, core knowledge, the math.

FCPS could keep all the crap that minorly annoys me, but if they gave me the bolded, I'd think I'd died and gone to heaven.
-ES parent

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Ever time I see that darn Balanced Literacy poster, I think of this.

Can you post a link to the creator of this? I would love to share it and want to give appropriate credit.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ever time I see that darn Balanced Literacy poster, I think of this.

Can you post a link to the creator of this? I would love to share it and want to give appropriate credit.

DP, but googling the tag on there gives:

https://mobile.twitter.com/lucyfalsekins

Which looks like a fun follow!

[Anonymous]

#TeachLoveNotPhonics omg hahahahaha

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DP. My DC told me in 1st grade that "Good readers look at the pictures."

Uh what? Good readers look at the letters/words.

Why would good readers ignore either one?

Good readers also look at tables, graphs, maps, etc when reading...so why not pictures?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DP. My DC told me in 1st grade that "Good readers look at the pictures."

Uh what? Good readers look at the letters/words.

Why would good readers ignore either one?

Reading involves looking at letters and converting them to sounds. Pictures are only in books for little kids. As they get older the pictures will go away and all they will be left with is letters. If they can’t connect them to sounds, they will have had a huge disservice done to them by letting them use pictures to avoid actually reading.

This. The idea that pictures are somehow integral to learning to read is ridiculous. For generations, children learned to read from just regular books, often the family bible.

And many learn to read from picture books, not the bible.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hey everybody - stop saying, "Um...no" and "Uh...no." it comes across as so holier than thou.

Yes, that's the meaning that is intended to be conveyed.

+1, holier than thou is the purpose of DCUM posters, correct?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DP. My DC told me in 1st grade that "Good readers look at the pictures."

Uh what? Good readers look at the letters/words.

Why would good readers ignore either one?

Reading involves looking at letters and converting them to sounds. Pictures are only in books for little kids. As they get older the pictures will go away and all they will be left with is letters. If they can’t connect them to sounds, they will have had a huge disservice done to them by letting them use pictures to avoid actually reading.

This. The idea that pictures are somehow integral to learning to read is ridiculous. For generations, children learned to read from just regular books, often the family bible.

And many learn to read from picture books, not the bible.

Not by "reading" the pictures.