A better way? U8-U15 soccer

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Anonymous wrote:There is absolutely no reason for these NOVA ECNL teams to have to travel to Charlotte or Raleigh to get a game. You should feel blessed that Covid put a damper on that this spring. We are not ECNL, but have played some of the Carolina ECNL teams in tournaments. There are only a couple I would say are close to the same level as the NOVA/MD ECNL teams. There are even better teams in CCL than down there.

It is if that’s the way the league is set up. The point is there are other options and leagues that don’t require that type of travel yet parents choose to sign their kids up for it then have the gall to complain about it which is annoying. Do y’all hear yourselves? SMH

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:There is absolutely no reason for these NOVA ECNL teams to have to travel to Charlotte or Raleigh to get a game. You should feel blessed that Covid put a damper on that this spring. We are not ECNL, but have played some of the Carolina ECNL teams in tournaments. There are only a couple I would say are close to the same level as the NOVA/MD ECNL teams. There are even better teams in CCL than down there.

It is if that’s the way the league is set up. The point is there are other options and leagues that don’t require that type of travel yet parents choose to sign their kids up for it then have the gall to complain about it which is annoying. Do y’all hear yourselves? SMH

The last time I checked, parents are free to complain about the leagues and those of us who have been through this with multiple kids are free to urge parents with younger kids to choose a better path. In the younger age groups, there is nothing gained by making your kids sit in a car for 2-3 hours each weekend to play a soccer game that in many cases won't be competitive. Don't do it, especially if your kid is on a B or C team. In fact, unless you are at a large club that actually values the B team and makes effort to develop players, consider whether being on a travel team is necessary at all. The only way to incentivize change is for more people opt out of this maddening system.

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Anonymous wrote:There is absolutely no reason for these NOVA ECNL teams to have to travel to Charlotte or Raleigh to get a game. You should feel blessed that Covid put a damper on that this spring. We are not ECNL, but have played some of the Carolina ECNL teams in tournaments. There are only a couple I would say are close to the same level as the NOVA/MD ECNL teams. There are even better teams in CCL than down there.

It is if that’s the way the league is set up. The point is there are other options and leagues that don’t require that type of travel yet parents choose to sign their kids up for it then have the gall to complain about it which is annoying. Do y’all hear yourselves? SMH

We don’t use “y’all”in Northern VA.

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Anonymous wrote:There is absolutely no reason for these NOVA ECNL teams to have to travel to Charlotte or Raleigh to get a game. You should feel blessed that Covid put a damper on that this spring. We are not ECNL, but have played some of the Carolina ECNL teams in tournaments. There are only a couple I would say are close to the same level as the NOVA/MD ECNL teams. There are even better teams in CCL than down there.

It is if that’s the way the league is set up. The point is there are other options and leagues that don’t require that type of travel yet parents choose to sign their kids up for it then have the gall to complain about it which is annoying. Do y’all hear yourselves? SMH

We don’t use “y’all”in Northern VA.

True. That term is reserved for actual Virginians.

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Anonymous wrote:There is absolutely no reason for these NOVA ECNL teams to have to travel to Charlotte or Raleigh to get a game. You should feel blessed that Covid put a damper on that this spring. We are not ECNL, but have played some of the Carolina ECNL teams in tournaments. There are only a couple I would say are close to the same level as the NOVA/MD ECNL teams. There are even better teams in CCL than down there.

It is if that’s the way the league is set up. The point is there are other options and leagues that don’t require that type of travel yet parents choose to sign their kids up for it then have the gall to complain about it which is annoying. Do y’all hear yourselves? SMH

We don’t use “y’all”in Northern VA.

True. That term is reserved for actual Virginians.

Yes. I was born in Fairfax County, raised in NoVa. I'm in my 50s now. According to most of the state, I am not Virginian. My Virginia University referred to everyone from Northern VA, as the 'great state of N.VA'. I can say I identify more with Northerners since my parents were New Englanders. The 'y'all' sh*t drives me crazy.

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Anonymous wrote:There is absolutely no reason for these NOVA ECNL teams to have to travel to Charlotte or Raleigh to get a game. You should feel blessed that Covid put a damper on that this spring. We are not ECNL, but have played some of the Carolina ECNL teams in tournaments. There are only a couple I would say are close to the same level as the NOVA/MD ECNL teams. There are even better teams in CCL than down there.

It is if that’s the way the league is set up. The point is there are other options and leagues that don’t require that type of travel yet parents choose to sign their kids up for it then have the gall to complain about it which is annoying. Do y’all hear yourselves? SMH

We don’t use “y’all”in Northern VA.

True. That term is reserved for actual Virginians.

Yes. I was born in Fairfax County, raised in NoVa. I'm in my 50s now. According to most of the state, I am not Virginian. My Virginia University referred to everyone from Northern VA, as the 'great state of N.VA'. I can say I identify more with Northerners since my parents were New Englanders. The 'y'all' sh*t drives me crazy.

Bless your heart.

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Anonymous wrote:There is absolutely no reason for these NOVA ECNL teams to have to travel to Charlotte or Raleigh to get a game. You should feel blessed that Covid put a damper on that this spring. We are not ECNL, but have played some of the Carolina ECNL teams in tournaments. There are only a couple I would say are close to the same level as the NOVA/MD ECNL teams. There are even better teams in CCL than down there.

It is if that’s the way the league is set up. The point is there are other options and leagues that don’t require that type of travel yet parents choose to sign their kids up for it then have the gall to complain about it which is annoying. Do y’all hear yourselves? SMH

We don’t use “y’all”in Northern VA.

True. That term is reserved for actual Virginians.

Yes. I was born in Fairfax County, raised in NoVa. I'm in my 50s now. According to most of the state, I am not Virginian. My Virginia University referred to everyone from Northern VA, as the 'great state of N.VA'. I can say I identify more with Northerners since my parents were New Englanders. The 'y'all' sh*t drives me crazy.

Bless your heart.

Three experiments examined how norms characteristic of a "culture of honor" manifest themselves in the cognitions, emotions, behaviors, and physiological reactions of southern White males. Participants were University of Michigan students who grew up in the North or South. In 3 experiments they were insulted by a confederate who bumped into the participant and called him an "asshole". Compared with northerners--who were relatively unaffected by the insult--southerners were (a) more likely to think their masculine reputation was threatened, (b) more upset (as shown by a rise in cortisol levels), (c) more physiologically primed for aggression (as shown by a rise in testosterone levels), (d) more cognitively primed for aggression, and (e) more likely to engage in aggressive and dominant behavior. Findings highlight the insult-aggression cycle in cultures of honor, in which insults diminish a man's reputation and he tries to restore his status by aggressive or violent behavior.

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Anonymous wrote:There is absolutely no reason for these NOVA ECNL teams to have to travel to Charlotte or Raleigh to get a game. You should feel blessed that Covid put a damper on that this spring. We are not ECNL, but have played some of the Carolina ECNL teams in tournaments. There are only a couple I would say are close to the same level as the NOVA/MD ECNL teams. There are even better teams in CCL than down there.

It is if that’s the way the league is set up. The point is there are other options and leagues that don’t require that type of travel yet parents choose to sign their kids up for it then have the gall to complain about it which is annoying. Do y’all hear yourselves? SMH

We don’t use “y’all”in Northern VA.

True. That term is reserved for actual Virginians.

Yes. I was born in Fairfax County, raised in NoVa. I'm in my 50s now. According to most of the state, I am not Virginian. My Virginia University referred to everyone from Northern VA, as the 'great state of N.VA'. I can say I identify more with Northerners since my parents were New Englanders. The 'y'all' sh*t drives me crazy.

Bless your heart.

Three experiments examined how norms characteristic of a "culture of honor" manifest themselves in the cognitions, emotions, behaviors, and physiological reactions of southern White males. Participants were University of Michigan students who grew up in the North or South. In 3 experiments they were insulted by a confederate who bumped into the participant and called him an "asshole". Compared with northerners--who were relatively unaffected by the insult--southerners were (a) more likely to think their masculine reputation was threatened, (b) more upset (as shown by a rise in cortisol levels), (c) more physiologically primed for aggression (as shown by a rise in testosterone levels), (d) more cognitively primed for aggression, and (e) more likely to engage in aggressive and dominant behavior. Findings highlight the insult-aggression cycle in cultures of honor, in which insults diminish a man's reputation and he tries to restore his status by aggressive or violent behavior.

I'm not a southerner - and I don't know what your point is - but these responses sound positive to me. If someone bumps into someone else and, instead of apologizing, calls him an asshole - then that person ought to get a butt whooping and the world would be a better place if they always did.

Personally I would likely just walk on because I'm lazy - but I say "Well done!" to anyone who administers the whooping.

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Anonymous wrote:There is absolutely no reason for these NOVA ECNL teams to have to travel to Charlotte or Raleigh to get a game. You should feel blessed that Covid put a damper on that this spring. We are not ECNL, but have played some of the Carolina ECNL teams in tournaments. There are only a couple I would say are close to the same level as the NOVA/MD ECNL teams. There are even better teams in CCL than down there.

It is if that’s the way the league is set up. The point is there are other options and leagues that don’t require that type of travel yet parents choose to sign their kids up for it then have the gall to complain about it which is annoying. Do y’all hear yourselves? SMH

We don’t use “y’all”in Northern VA.

True. That term is reserved for actual Virginians.

Yes. I was born in Fairfax County, raised in NoVa. I'm in my 50s now. According to most of the state, I am not Virginian. My Virginia University referred to everyone from Northern VA, as the 'great state of N.VA'. I can say I identify more with Northerners since my parents were New Englanders. The 'y'all' sh*t drives me crazy.

Bless your heart.

Three experiments examined how norms characteristic of a "culture of honor" manifest themselves in the cognitions, emotions, behaviors, and physiological reactions of southern White males. Participants were University of Michigan students who grew up in the North or South. In 3 experiments they were insulted by a confederate who bumped into the participant and called him an "asshole". Compared with northerners--who were relatively unaffected by the insult--southerners were (a) more likely to think their masculine reputation was threatened, (b) more upset (as shown by a rise in cortisol levels), (c) more physiologically primed for aggression (as shown by a rise in testosterone levels), (d) more cognitively primed for aggression, and (e) more likely to engage in aggressive and dominant behavior. Findings highlight the insult-aggression cycle in cultures of honor, in which insults diminish a man's reputation and he tries to restore his status by aggressive or violent behavior.

"Insulted by a confederate who bumped in the participant", LOL. Was this a civil war reenactor?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:There is absolutely no reason for these NOVA ECNL teams to have to travel to Charlotte or Raleigh to get a game. You should feel blessed that Covid put a damper on that this spring. We are not ECNL, but have played some of the Carolina ECNL teams in tournaments. There are only a couple I would say are close to the same level as the NOVA/MD ECNL teams. There are even better teams in CCL than down there.

It is if that’s the way the league is set up. The point is there are other options and leagues that don’t require that type of travel yet parents choose to sign their kids up for it then have the gall to complain about it which is annoying. Do y’all hear yourselves? SMH

We don’t use “y’all”in Northern VA.

True. That term is reserved for actual Virginians.

Yes. I was born in Fairfax County, raised in NoVa. I'm in my 50s now. According to most of the state, I am not Virginian. My Virginia University referred to everyone from Northern VA, as the 'great state of N.VA'. I can say I identify more with Northerners since my parents were New Englanders. The 'y'all' sh*t drives me crazy.

Bless your heart.

Three experiments examined how norms characteristic of a "culture of honor" manifest themselves in the cognitions, emotions, behaviors, and physiological reactions of southern White males. Participants were University of Michigan students who grew up in the North or South. In 3 experiments they were insulted by a confederate who bumped into the participant and called him an "asshole". Compared with northerners--who were relatively unaffected by the insult--southerners were (a) more likely to think their masculine reputation was threatened, (b) more upset (as shown by a rise in cortisol levels), (c) more physiologically primed for aggression (as shown by a rise in testosterone levels), (d) more cognitively primed for aggression, and (e) more likely to engage in aggressive and dominant behavior. Findings highlight the insult-aggression cycle in cultures of honor, in which insults diminish a man's reputation and he tries to restore his status by aggressive or violent behavior.

"Insulted by a confederate who bumped in the participant", LOL. Was this a civil war reenactor?

"I say, I say, I say, you sir are an asshole!" - Foghorn Leghorn

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Folks around here are spoiled with options including playing “down” in NCSL where most games are within 45 minutes/30 miles. She. I grew up there was one travel team in my town and the only other clubs nearby were all over Richmond so we routinely had 90-120 minute one way drives for weekend travel matches. Many other clubs and areas around the country have the same type of travel. It IS referred to as travel after all. For those whining about the travel look in the mirror. You filled out the registration info. You made the choice.

We live in a metropolitan area with hundreds of clubs and enough elite ones within an hours drive there is no need, outside of tournaments, to travel.

I grew up in Fairfax county in the 80s and we had Fairfax police, McLean, SYC, Annandale, BRYC, Bowie, Bethesda, etc., etc. We yea tied to at least 4-5 tournaments up and down in the East Coast. And Canada.

Your logic makes no sense. We are spoiled because we have so many decent options nearby (unlike you as a kid where you had to drive because no clubs were nearby) so we shouldn’t complain that our Clubs want to drive right past them because they are in a pissing match for customers and can’t be in the same league.

This.

My kid is in CCL. We drive by so many comparable clubs to get to one that happens to be in CCL. Or we don't drive to close-by clubs 20 minutes in another direction to instead drive 2 hours each way. And CCL has plenty of good teams but it is highly inconsistent. How does it make sense?

If there were one big league with promotion and relegation, which is kept local in the first few years especially, it would be better for everyone.

Of course if you live in Roanoke you are going to have to travel. Same if you live in Virginia Beach or West Virginia. But on of the benefits of living in Northern Virginia is that we don't. Or shouldn't.

Wait. What? You are using us why it makes sense for you to drive past many comparable clubs to get to one that happens to be in CCL? You tell us? Why do you so it?

Why? Because my kid made the top team and that's where they sent us. No, I didn't really realize what we were getting into distance-wise. It is ridiculous. I have an older in NCSL and I have never had a problem with the distances.

If your question is, will I let my child stay on this team next year? I am definitely debating it. In the meantime, I simply can't understand the point of it and that's what I am discussing. When my older was in Division 1 of NCSL, especially in U12-U13, before a lot of the Maryland teams moved to EDP and before other teams moved to VPL and so on, the competition was excellent. More consistently excellent than CCL!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:There is absolutely no reason for these NOVA ECNL teams to have to travel to Charlotte or Raleigh to get a game. You should feel blessed that Covid put a damper on that this spring. We are not ECNL, but have played some of the Carolina ECNL teams in tournaments. There are only a couple I would say are close to the same level as the NOVA/MD ECNL teams. There are even better teams in CCL than down there.

It is if that’s the way the league is set up. The point is there are other options and leagues that don’t require that type of travel yet parents choose to sign their kids up for it then have the gall to complain about it which is annoying. Do y’all hear yourselves? SMH

We don’t use “y’all”in Northern VA.

True. That term is reserved for actual Virginians.

Yes. I was born in Fairfax County, raised in NoVa. I'm in my 50s now. According to most of the state, I am not Virginian. My Virginia University referred to everyone from Northern VA, as the 'great state of N.VA'. I can say I identify more with Northerners since my parents were New Englanders. The 'y'all' sh*t drives me crazy.

Then you are a wanna be elitist ass hat. Why do you care about colloquial speech in America? To be honest, the use of "y'all" linguistically is uniquely tied to American language and one of the few conjunctions in the English language that we can call our own. No other country uses it. In the same way that an Irish person might say "ye", or a Northerner might say "yous", it's an affectionate colloquialism. If you don't like it, that sounds like a personal problem stemming from airs of superiority but I'm here to tell you that Fairfax County ain't all that.

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Anonymous wrote:There is absolutely no reason for these NOVA ECNL teams to have to travel to Charlotte or Raleigh to get a game. You should feel blessed that Covid put a damper on that this spring. We are not ECNL, but have played some of the Carolina ECNL teams in tournaments. There are only a couple I would say are close to the same level as the NOVA/MD ECNL teams. There are even better teams in CCL than down there.

It is if that’s the way the league is set up. The point is there are other options and leagues that don’t require that type of travel yet parents choose to sign their kids up for it then have the gall to complain about it which is annoying. Do y’all hear yourselves? SMH

We don’t use “y’all”in Northern VA.

True. That term is reserved for actual Virginians.

Yes. I was born in Fairfax County, raised in NoVa. I'm in my 50s now. According to most of the state, I am not Virginian. My Virginia University referred to everyone from Northern VA, as the 'great state of N.VA'. I can say I identify more with Northerners since my parents were New Englanders. The 'y'all' sh*t drives me crazy.

Then you are a wanna be elitist ass hat. Why do you care about colloquial speech in America? To be honest, the use of "y'all" linguistically is uniquely tied to American language and one of the few conjunctions in the English language that we can call our own. No other country uses it. In the same way that an Irish person might say "ye", or a Northerner might say "yous", it's an affectionate colloquialism. If you don't like it, that sounds like a personal problem stemming from airs of superiority but I'm here to tell you that Fairfax County ain't all that.

'You guys' is standard for anyone that grew up in the immediate Wash-DC-Close-in area.

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Anonymous wrote:There is absolutely no reason for these NOVA ECNL teams to have to travel to Charlotte or Raleigh to get a game. You should feel blessed that Covid put a damper on that this spring. We are not ECNL, but have played some of the Carolina ECNL teams in tournaments. There are only a couple I would say are close to the same level as the NOVA/MD ECNL teams. There are even better teams in CCL than down there.

It is if that’s the way the league is set up. The point is there are other options and leagues that don’t require that type of travel yet parents choose to sign their kids up for it then have the gall to complain about it which is annoying. Do y’all hear yourselves? SMH

We don’t use “y’all”in Northern VA.

True. That term is reserved for actual Virginians.

Yes. I was born in Fairfax County, raised in NoVa. I'm in my 50s now. According to most of the state, I am not Virginian. My Virginia University referred to everyone from Northern VA, as the 'great state of N.VA'. I can say I identify more with Northerners since my parents were New Englanders. The 'y'all' sh*t drives me crazy.

Then you are a wanna be elitist ass hat. Why do you care about colloquial speech in America? To be honest, the use of "y'all" linguistically is uniquely tied to American language and one of the few conjunctions in the English language that we can call our own. No other country uses it. In the same way that an Irish person might say "ye", or a Northerner might say "yous", it's an affectionate colloquialism. If you don't like it, that sounds like a personal problem stemming from airs of superiority but I'm here to tell you that Fairfax County ain't all that.

'You guys' is standard for anyone that grew up in the immediate Wash-DC-Close-in area.

How is that relevant? Are you under the assumption that everyone who currently lives in DC grew up in the area? If you grew up here, you'd also know that this area is full of transients. So after 50+ years, the PP should realize that different regionalisms would make its way here. She should also realize that the rest of her state has a different accent from her, and her post is exactly why the commonwealth rolls its eyes at NOVA.

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Then you are a wanna be elitist ass hat. Why do you care about colloquial speech in America? To be honest, the use of "y'all" linguistically is uniquely tied to American language and one of the few conjunctions in the English language that we can call our own. No other country uses it. In the same way that an Irish person might say "ye", or a Northerner might say "yous", it's an affectionate colloquialism. If you don't like it, that sounds like a personal problem stemming from airs of superiority but I'm here to tell you that Fairfax County ain't all that.

'You guys' is standard for anyone that grew up in the immediate Wash-DC-Close-in area.

Bless your heart. It's not your fault you weren't raised right.