Why was Lindsay Lohan shamed and exiled

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Lindsey had a great acting talent.
So very sad to see all that great acting talent wasted.

She could have made it big as a Hollywood actress - but ruined her career to just party.
Now sadly, she has aged prematurely & no longer has the good looks she once had.

Paris + Kim K. are like five yrs. older than her, but look ten times younger.
And they made smart business decisions along the way where Lindsey did not.

Her last MTV reality show was a disaster, she didn’t even own her clubs.
She simply gave them her moniker.

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Anonymous wrote:I suspect that she can't keep her sobriety in check unless she lives in a place where socializing doesn't routinely include alcohol. You can't even go out for dinner in the US, UK, or France (her previous haunts) without being around alcohol. In the Middle East, alcohol is much less visible so it's easier for an alcoholic to avoid because there are fewer triggers. I think she moved there, got bankrolled by royalty and rich sheikhs, and established a life there. I think she still drinks but I suspect her movement throughout the ME is directly linked to her sobriety status (Dubai etc when she's drinking, more conservative places when she's trying to recover).

She’s not being bankrolled by them for nothing. She is a working as an escort.

+1 and have you socialized in the ME? No lack of alcohol

Yes, I've been drunk in at least 5 ME countries including on the peninsula. But while it's everywhere in Dubai, you're wrong that it is as prevalent in the ME as in the US and Europe. You do not go out for boozy brunches in Kuwait, for example. Even within UAE, she spends a lot of her time in Abu Dhabi which does NOT have the party scene of Dubai. There are limits there that don't exist here and a sober lifestyle is more attainable.

I suspect she's an escort but not an actual yacht girl on a yacht. I suspect she's a guest with implied obligations. But it's also not unusual for royals to bankroll people without sex. A friend of mine nearly got caught up in that lifestyle and she was being bankrolled by a princess with no sex involved. Patronage is a thing there.

Yes, this is why I don't think she's an actual escort. I lived and worked in Dubai for several years, and knew multiple people who received huge amounts of money just for...basically being friends with royals. And there are a LOT of royals because they have multiple wives and huge families: so many princes and princesses.

There IS a LOT of drinking among expats in Abu Dhabi, though. It's mostly private parties there, but expats in Abu Dhabi/Dubai drank far more than any other country where I have lived (5). And if traffic is good, you can drive from Abu Dhabi to Dubai in about an hour and a half. However, I believe she lives in Dubai, not Abu Dhabi, in any case.

I disagree that there are limits in UAE drinking culture that don't exist in the west. Everything in Dubai is extreme or exaggerated, including the drinking culture. I have never seen so much day drinking (the brunches in hotels, restaurants, around pools, etc) as when I lived in the UAE; I wasn't into clubbing, but many of my colleagues were, and most drank quite heavily in the nightlife too. And I've lived in several European countries, including Eastern Europe (!), plus the US.

I've noticed she lives in Dubai but takes up temporary residence elsewhere. So in my imagination, she was escaping to other places when trying to be sober. But you're right-- she's obviously drinking so she's probably just going wherever the party moves to.

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You can do a lot of improvements with enough money. Look at Felicity Huffman.

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Her recent pictures don't even look like her

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Anonymous wrote:She really was so talented. I hope she gets to work again - gets her life together. I'd like to see what she'd do, with that opportunity!

If RObert Downey Jr could pull it together, there is hope for LiLo

From what is written about her in the media, she is still an addict and not in recovery. RDJ has been sober for years. Lindsay has been escorting in Dubai instead of focusing on her career and sobriety...

So the years he wasn't sober just don't matter? I mean he was in a bad way and now he is (as far as we know) a fine upstanding citizen. That can be the story for LiLo too.

Even when he was addict he was apparently a professional on set. Lilo did not have that reputation.

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No he wasn't. He was arrested multiple times, sentenced to jail time. The way he got a comeback was Mel Gibson put up money for him because no one would insure him. You want to toss this woman on the trash heap and I say, until she is dead, there is still hope for her.

Who the hell is rooting for a comeback? I'm around her age and consider her totally washed out. She showed talent as a kid and teen, but she never developed at all as an adult actress. There are so, so many people who are in their 20s and very promising, do you think there is any studio ambition to hire and promote a washed up yacht girl in her mid 30s who looks 48 and hasn't acted since 16ish. I don't. She's not some troubled "great thespian of our time" she was a cute kid and teen and then effed it up. Like so many stars before her. Is Tara Reid also due for a comeback? Hell no.

Agree. Totally confused by these posters acting like she was bound to be some Meryl Streep. She was decent (and not even the best in Mean Girls). The best thing she did as an adult was that video (and then memes) of her “dancing” at some party in Mykonos.

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Anonymous wrote:I suspect that she can't keep her sobriety in check unless she lives in a place where socializing doesn't routinely include alcohol. You can't even go out for dinner in the US, UK, or France (her previous haunts) without being around alcohol. In the Middle East, alcohol is much less visible so it's easier for an alcoholic to avoid because there are fewer triggers. I think she moved there, got bankrolled by royalty and rich sheikhs, and established a life there. I think she still drinks but I suspect her movement throughout the ME is directly linked to her sobriety status (Dubai etc when she's drinking, more conservative places when she's trying to recover).

She’s not being bankrolled by them for nothing. She is a working as an escort.

+1 and have you socialized in the ME? No lack of alcohol

Yes, I've been drunk in at least 5 ME countries including on the peninsula. But while it's everywhere in Dubai, you're wrong that it is as prevalent in the ME as in the US and Europe. You do not go out for boozy brunches in Kuwait, for example. Even within UAE, she spends a lot of her time in Abu Dhabi which does NOT have the party scene of Dubai. There are limits there that don't exist here and a sober lifestyle is more attainable.

I suspect she's an escort but not an actual yacht girl on a yacht. I suspect she's a guest with implied obligations. But it's also not unusual for royals to bankroll people without sex. A friend of mine nearly got caught up in that lifestyle and she was being bankrolled by a princess with no sex involved. Patronage is a thing there.

Yes, this is why I don't think she's an actual escort. I lived and worked in Dubai for several years, and knew multiple people who received huge amounts of money just for...basically being friends with royals. And there are a LOT of royals because they have multiple wives and huge families: so many princes and princesses.

There IS a LOT of drinking among expats in Abu Dhabi, though. It's mostly private parties there, but expats in Abu Dhabi/Dubai drank far more than any other country where I have lived (5). And if traffic is good, you can drive from Abu Dhabi to Dubai in about an hour and a half. However, I believe she lives in Dubai, not Abu Dhabi, in any case.

I disagree that there are limits in UAE drinking culture that don't exist in the west. Everything in Dubai is extreme or exaggerated, including the drinking culture. I have never seen so much day drinking (the brunches in hotels, restaurants, around pools, etc) as when I lived in the UAE; I wasn't into clubbing, but many of my colleagues were, and most drank quite heavily in the nightlife too. And I've lived in several European countries, including Eastern Europe (!), plus the US.

I've noticed she lives in Dubai but takes up temporary residence elsewhere. So in my imagination, she was escaping to other places when trying to be sober. But you're right-- she's obviously drinking so she's probably just going wherever the party moves to.

She is going wherever rich boyfriends take her. If you follow her on Insta, in the past she’s posted and referenced (always unseen) boyfriends.

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Anonymous wrote:She was given chance after chance after chance after chance. The real question is why the hell was she given so many? I was flabbergasted when Oprah decided to put her up in a multi million dollar apartment and fund a reality show for her + all kinds of support (counseling, life coach, etc.). She STILL f-ed it up.

She is an addict and there is nothing that can be done unless she decides to fix it.

I think she was given so many chances because she had real talent when she was younger (Parent Trap, Mean Girls). People saw that, and they also saw how awful her family was, and they felt bad for her. It can't have been easy for her growing up the way she did. It wasn't just Oprah, also Tina Fey, and other people. I have a bit of a soft spot for her because I remember the sweet kid from Parent Trap.

But at some point, despite your terrible childhood, you have to grow up and decide to help yourself. She never did. It's really too bad.

Totally agree with you, but I almost think the Oprah thing enabled her. I watched that show, and it was painful. She had a 3 pm phone meeting with an agent who was trying to help her and she missed the call. She said sorry I overslept. Like....from the night before.

They had footage of her coming home at 7 am. You don't stay out all night unless you're on drugs. It was so obvious.

I agree she had talent and a lot of good will and people did take pity because her parents are so f-ed up. But damn. You can't save someone. They have to want to get help and stick with the program.

I mean she might be on drugs but also your life is boring.

HAHA I posted my above response before reading this one! See, you know how to live!

Watch the show though, she was clearly on drugs. It's not just the out all night, it's the behavior. I'm actually amazed Oprah let some of it air.

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Anonymous wrote:She really was so talented. I hope she gets to work again - gets her life together. I'd like to see what she'd do, with that opportunity!

If RObert Downey Jr could pull it together, there is hope for LiLo

From what is written about her in the media, she is still an addict and not in recovery. RDJ has been sober for years. Lindsay has been escorting in Dubai instead of focusing on her career and sobriety...

So the years he wasn't sober just don't matter? I mean he was in a bad way and now he is (as far as we know) a fine upstanding citizen. That can be the story for LiLo too.

Even when he was addict he was apparently a professional on set. Lilo did not have that reputation.

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No he wasn't. He was arrested multiple times, sentenced to jail time. The way he got a comeback was Mel Gibson put up money for him because no one would insure him. You want to toss this woman on the trash heap and I say, until she is dead, there is still hope for her.

Who the hell is rooting for a comeback? I'm around her age and consider her totally washed out. She showed talent as a kid and teen, but she never developed at all as an adult actress. There are so, so many people who are in their 20s and very promising, do you think there is any studio ambition to hire and promote a washed up yacht girl in her mid 30s who looks 48 and hasn't acted since 16ish. I don't. She's not some troubled "great thespian of our time" she was a cute kid and teen and then effed it up. Like so many stars before her. Is Tara Reid also due for a comeback? Hell no.

Oh, and I would also say as I did above: she's a woman. People don't like this arc for women. Drew Barrymore may have pulled it off to an extent, but she is Hollywood Royalty. LiLo is Long Island trash and their trash has been in tabloids forever.

Sheesh are you worked up about Linsday Lohan, my goodness. Might wanna take some deep breaths and figure out why.

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Anonymous wrote:She really was so talented. I hope she gets to work again - gets her life together. I'd like to see what she'd do, with that opportunity!

If RObert Downey Jr could pull it together, there is hope for LiLo

From what is written about her in the media, she is still an addict and not in recovery. RDJ has been sober for years. Lindsay has been escorting in Dubai instead of focusing on her career and sobriety...

So the years he wasn't sober just don't matter? I mean he was in a bad way and now he is (as far as we know) a fine upstanding citizen. That can be the story for LiLo too.

Even when he was addict he was apparently a professional on set. Lilo did not have that reputation.

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No he wasn't. He was arrested multiple times, sentenced to jail time. The way he got a comeback was Mel Gibson put up money for him because no one would insure him. You want to toss this woman on the trash heap and I say, until she is dead, there is still hope for her.

Who the hell is rooting for a comeback? I'm around her age and consider her totally washed out. She showed talent as a kid and teen, but she never developed at all as an adult actress. There are so, so many people who are in their 20s and very promising, do you think there is any studio ambition to hire and promote a washed up yacht girl in her mid 30s who looks 48 and hasn't acted since 16ish. I don't. She's not some troubled "great thespian of our time" she was a cute kid and teen and then effed it up. Like so many stars before her. Is Tara Reid also due for a comeback? Hell no.

Agree. Totally confused by these posters acting like she was bound to be some Meryl Streep. She was decent (and not even the best in Mean Girls). The best thing she did as an adult was that video (and then memes) of her “dancing” at some party in Mykonos.

I think people have always found her endearing in that it seemed she wanted to get her sh*t together, and just never quite could. She didn't seem like a Paris, Nicole or Kim K - spoiled, rich, bratty. She was from a mess of a family just using her and all of her inner circle seemed to as well. I always kinda rooted for her but after "Liz and Dick" and all the trips to the courthouse (and probably driving that one African American lady lawyer away who always stood by her), I figured she was too far gone.

Yes, I know way too much about Lilo. Long live the 2000s!

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She had talent, but no one is "owed" decades of high paying acting roles.

Child actors often stand out because there aren't that many talented ones who can focus and really get it. She could. But as she aged, the competition got more fierce. You can probably only name a handful of child actors out there today who blow you away but you can probably name many lovely young women in their 20s.....and more entering the scene all the time....so producers didn't have to put up with her crap. They could get Anne Hathaway or Scar Jo or Blake Lively, all whom she lost roles to as she got in to trouble and they didn't.

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Anonymous wrote:She was given chance after chance after chance after chance. The real question is why the hell was she given so many? I was flabbergasted when Oprah decided to put her up in a multi million dollar apartment and fund a reality show for her + all kinds of support (counseling, life coach, etc.). She STILL f-ed it up.

She is an addict and there is nothing that can be done unless she decides to fix it.

I think she was given so many chances because she had real talent when she was younger (Parent Trap, Mean Girls). People saw that, and they also saw how awful her family was, and they felt bad for her. It can't have been easy for her growing up the way she did. It wasn't just Oprah, also Tina Fey, and other people. I have a bit of a soft spot for her because I remember the sweet kid from Parent Trap.

But at some point, despite your terrible childhood, you have to grow up and decide to help yourself. She never did. It's really too bad.

Totally agree with you, but I almost think the Oprah thing enabled her. I watched that show, and it was painful. She had a 3 pm phone meeting with an agent who was trying to help her and she missed the call. She said sorry I overslept. Like....from the night before.

They had footage of her coming home at 7 am. You don't stay out all night unless you're on drugs. It was so obvious.

I agree she had talent and a lot of good will and people did take pity because her parents are so f-ed up. But damn. You can't save someone. They have to want to get help and stick with the program.

I mean she might be on drugs but also your life is boring.

HAHA I posted my above response before reading this one! See, you know how to live!

Watch the show though, she was clearly on drugs. It's not just the out all night, it's the behavior. I'm actually amazed Oprah let some of it air.

Yes. She was very messed up.

I too stayed out all night drinking with friends in my 20s. Never did any drugs, nothing at all. Man those were fun days

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Anonymous wrote:She really was so talented. I hope she gets to work again - gets her life together. I'd like to see what she'd do, with that opportunity!

If RObert Downey Jr could pull it together, there is hope for LiLo

From what is written about her in the media, she is still an addict and not in recovery. RDJ has been sober for years. Lindsay has been escorting in Dubai instead of focusing on her career and sobriety...

So the years he wasn't sober just don't matter? I mean he was in a bad way and now he is (as far as we know) a fine upstanding citizen. That can be the story for LiLo too.

Even when he was addict he was apparently a professional on set. Lilo did not have that reputation.

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No he wasn't. He was arrested multiple times, sentenced to jail time. The way he got a comeback was Mel Gibson put up money for him because no one would insure him. You want to toss this woman on the trash heap and I say, until she is dead, there is still hope for her.

Who the hell is rooting for a comeback? I'm around her age and consider her totally washed out. She showed talent as a kid and teen, but she never developed at all as an adult actress. There are so, so many people who are in their 20s and very promising, do you think there is any studio ambition to hire and promote a washed up yacht girl in her mid 30s who looks 48 and hasn't acted since 16ish. I don't. She's not some troubled "great thespian of our time" she was a cute kid and teen and then effed it up. Like so many stars before her. Is Tara Reid also due for a comeback? Hell no.

Oh, and I would also say as I did above: she's a woman. People don't like this arc for women. Drew Barrymore may have pulled it off to an extent, but she is Hollywood Royalty. LiLo is Long Island trash and their trash has been in tabloids forever.

Sheesh are you worked up about Linsday Lohan, my goodness. Might wanna take some deep breaths and figure out why.

Np. Umm...are you missing the fact that someone started this thread?! Go talk to Op about her weird fixation and help her figure out why. You sound like a complete as*.