That may be because a religion that promised only good things to good people would soon be proven wrong, as experience showed that this did not always happen. It's much better in terms of encouraging belief to have a religion that only promises a reward in "the next life" i.e., a life after death for which there is no proof, only hope. Another way to encourage belief in such a religion is to have a rule that if you don't believe in it, you will suffer forever after death and never see your previously deceased loved ones. This can certainly frighten children into believing and some adults, as well. |
I'm sorry for your loss, PP. The Bible does have an answer for this in Isaiah 57: "The righteous man perishes, and no one lays it to heart; devout men are taken away, while no one understands. For the righteous man is taken away from calamity; he enters into peace; they rest in their beds who walk in their uprightness." |
Ahh! My soul mate. |
DP but it makes a lot more sense than blaming God. |
Off topic but the cross has ALWAYS creeped me out for that reason! |
You mean DM, not DP. |
The Bible addresses it, but hardly answers it. Makes it sound like death is better than life for the "righteous man" and says nothing about ending the good he was doing on earth, removing him before he wanted to leave, or the pain his loved ones experience because he's gone. The focus is on the peace he experiences once dead. It seems very selfish, unlike the righteous man himself who was doing so much good on Earth. Apparently being selected by God to die and go to heaven early is preferable in God's eyes than helping people while alive. God could have given him more time to do good on earth before accepting him into heaven for eternity, but chose not to. I bet if God had asked the "righteous man" if he wanted an early ticket to heaven, he would have turned down the offer, but that's not God's way. He acts randomly, as if he doesn't exist. |
Because God is blameless? People believe he is all powerful and responsible for all the good things that happen. Why not the bad, as well? |
I have never heard this. I have heard of God as “all-knowing,” but not as “all responsible.” |
This is so odd. Because something acts randomly, it must not exist? Do the fires on the west coast exist? For that matter, does fire exist at all? Some people say it’s good and helpful, others say it’s dangerous and seemingly random, still others say that while we don’t understand it completely, there are rules that it follows if you get to know it and study it. They may seem unfair and arbitrary, but they are there. If you had never seen fire, would you believe in it’s existence? Do you think that if you somehow stop believing in it because it doesn’t follow rules you agree with, then it will cease to exist? |
This is very dumb logic. We have evidence of fires, right? End of argument. |
Ok. So anything you don’t have concrete evidence of doesn’t exist? |
+1 -- it's like a very bad defense of the indefensible - searching scripture to find a stupid excuse |
| We are specks of light floating in the great undulating river of light that flows through time. (Jane Kenyon). God is light and love. God understands earthly pain (Jesus forged that connection of understanding through his Passion of physical death on the cross). There is no doubt that horrible tragedies and painful events happen here on Earth. Jesus taught us that he will help us bear it if we only ask him to take on the pain for us. It really helps (or has helped me) to practice self care (taking time for things that improve my mental and physical health; for me, daily yoga practice, eating well, and getting a good 7 hours of sleep most nights) to get through painful times. But mostly if something is really hurting in my life, I ask God to bear my pain. Sounds weird but it helps. I don’t believe in hell (except that there can be a state of separation from God that we choose through free will) but there is evil in the world. Why doesn’t God change that? No one knows, but I suspect this life is a crucible that refined our soul (that speck of light) so that when we die we emerge in that great river of light that undulates through time. |
So, before we had evidence of microorganisms, did they still exist? Yes. Of course. They didn’t exist only if you believed in them or knew about them. You cannot prove a negative. The fact that we DON’T have evidence of something or that something seems to behave in ways that seem illogical or unintelligible doesn’t mean that the thing doesn’t exist. |