DCPS Bans Zoom

[Anonymous]

Zoom doesn’t have end to end encryption. All streams go through their servers. They have the encryption key. Zoom is not private by default and it has already been proven that login credentials can be stolen through the chat feature. If I was a business, I would not use it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This guidance was not sent directly to teachers and many might still have never received it. At our school it as only sent to ALT members.

Then that’s on school leadership. I’m a teacher and I received it from my principal.

So what if it's "on" school leadership? That sounds like good leadership, actually. School was canceled on the 13th, teachers met to plan on the 16th, distance learning starts on the 24th and this guidance came on the 23rd to some people... after teachers had been planning all "spring break" about what to do.

It's a disrespectful ask by the 23rd and bordering misconduct to now say switch over for reasoning that is murky at best and doesn't even work at worst.

Good leadership exposes you to liability for using an unsecured network? It sounds like you are just salty over having to learn something new. They just gave a week to change. If your leadership had given you the correct info when they got it you would have had two weeks. Or could have changed in a day like I did (and I had literally never heard of Teams before this). Teams is NOT hard.

For many people it's not learning something new, it's learning yet another new platform at a time when everything is new.

And even setting aside how easy Teams is, it isn't as conducive for live classes since it doesn't have break out rooms like Zoom.

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Both Teams and Zoom were new to me. It makes more sense to learn just one platform, and Teams is the one that the school is using to send assignments, etc. Why would I also want to learn Zoom? And I have yet to see live teaching. We get recorded videos of our teachers teaching.

Teams is better because you can record and keep the video of the call. So any kid who misses it can still watch it. You can also post messages and assignments all in one space.

No, no one should be recording. That's a privacy violation and should not be done. Teachers on my son's calls specifically tell them not to record. Luckily it's easy to tell who is doing it.

We are told to record to cover ourselves and to share with students later. The videos are only on Teams so they are not publicly shared. All the kids are alerted that they are being recorded and can easily see. That being said, all you need to do is contact your principal and opt out of video conferencing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You can easily secure zoom by setting up a password to the link to solve the problem.

Doesn’t anyone at DCPS know that??? Anyone?

No you cannot! Zoom uses off-shore developers. 500 Chinese developers, you think it’s secure?! Lol. Cute.

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Anonymous wrote:This guidance was not sent directly to teachers and many might still have never received it. At our school it as only sent to ALT members.

Then that’s on school leadership. I’m a teacher and I received it from my principal.

So what if it's "on" school leadership? That sounds like good leadership, actually. School was canceled on the 13th, teachers met to plan on the 16th, distance learning starts on the 24th and this guidance came on the 23rd to some people... after teachers had been planning all "spring break" about what to do.

It's a disrespectful ask by the 23rd and bordering misconduct to now say switch over for reasoning that is murky at best and doesn't even work at worst.

Good leadership exposes you to liability for using an unsecured network? It sounds like you are just salty over having to learn something new. They just gave a week to change. If your leadership had given you the correct info when they got it you would have had two weeks. Or could have changed in a day like I did (and I had literally never heard of Teams before this). Teams is NOT hard.

For many people it's not learning something new, it's learning yet another new platform at a time when everything is new.

And even setting aside how easy Teams is, it isn't as conducive for live classes since it doesn't have break out rooms like Zoom.

DO

Both Teams and Zoom were new to me. It makes more sense to learn just one platform, and Teams is the one that the school is using to send assignments, etc. Why would I also want to learn Zoom? And I have yet to see live teaching. We get recorded videos of our teachers teaching.

Teams is better because you can record and keep the video of the call. So any kid who misses it can still watch it. You can also post messages and assignments all in one space.

No, no one should be recording. That's a privacy violation and should not be done. Teachers on my son's calls specifically tell them not to record. Luckily it's easy to tell who is doing it.

We are told to record to cover ourselves and to share with students later. The videos are only on Teams so they are not publicly shared. All the kids are alerted that they are being recorded and can easily see. That being said, all you need to do is contact your principal and opt out of video conferencing.

I don't want to opt out of video conferencing, but I also don't want teachers recording my child. Surely you can see there is a middle ground here.

[Anonymous]

I tell my Deal students on Teams that it is perfectly fine to have their cameras off. If they’re uncomfortable speaking, they may use the chat feature to share their answers.

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Anonymous wrote:This guidance was not sent directly to teachers and many might still have never received it. At our school it as only sent to ALT members.

Then that’s on school leadership. I’m a teacher and I received it from my principal.

So what if it's "on" school leadership? That sounds like good leadership, actually. School was canceled on the 13th, teachers met to plan on the 16th, distance learning starts on the 24th and this guidance came on the 23rd to some people... after teachers had been planning all "spring break" about what to do.

It's a disrespectful ask by the 23rd and bordering misconduct to now say switch over for reasoning that is murky at best and doesn't even work at worst.

Good leadership exposes you to liability for using an unsecured network? It sounds like you are just salty over having to learn something new. They just gave a week to change. If your leadership had given you the correct info when they got it you would have had two weeks. Or could have changed in a day like I did (and I had literally never heard of Teams before this). Teams is NOT hard.

For many people it's not learning something new, it's learning yet another new platform at a time when everything is new.

And even setting aside how easy Teams is, it isn't as conducive for live classes since it doesn't have break out rooms like Zoom.

DO

Both Teams and Zoom were new to me. It makes more sense to learn just one platform, and Teams is the one that the school is using to send assignments, etc. Why would I also want to learn Zoom? And I have yet to see live teaching. We get recorded videos of our teachers teaching.

Teams is better because you can record and keep the video of the call. So any kid who misses it can still watch it. You can also post messages and assignments all in one space.

No, no one should be recording. That's a privacy violation and should not be done. Teachers on my son's calls specifically tell them not to record. Luckily it's easy to tell who is doing it.

We are told to record to cover ourselves and to share with students later. The videos are only on Teams so they are not publicly shared. All the kids are alerted that they are being recorded and can easily see. That being said, all you need to do is contact your principal and opt out of video conferencing.

I don't want to opt out of video conferencing, but I also don't want teachers recording my child. Surely you can see there is a middle ground here.

What’s the middle ground? Most of my colleagues are recording videos just of themselves and posting on YouTube. Zero interaction with kids. I either do that or record the video with kids. I won’t video chat with kids and not have evidence that nothing happened when you complain later. My job is not worth it. You may opt out.

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Anonymous wrote:This guidance was not sent directly to teachers and many might still have never received it. At our school it as only sent to ALT members.

Then that’s on school leadership. I’m a teacher and I received it from my principal.

So what if it's "on" school leadership? That sounds like good leadership, actually. School was canceled on the 13th, teachers met to plan on the 16th, distance learning starts on the 24th and this guidance came on the 23rd to some people... after teachers had been planning all "spring break" about what to do.

It's a disrespectful ask by the 23rd and bordering misconduct to now say switch over for reasoning that is murky at best and doesn't even work at worst.

Good leadership exposes you to liability for using an unsecured network? It sounds like you are just salty over having to learn something new. They just gave a week to change. If your leadership had given you the correct info when they got it you would have had two weeks. Or could have changed in a day like I did (and I had literally never heard of Teams before this). Teams is NOT hard.

For many people it's not learning something new, it's learning yet another new platform at a time when everything is new.

And even setting aside how easy Teams is, it isn't as conducive for live classes since it doesn't have break out rooms like Zoom.

DO

Both Teams and Zoom were new to me. It makes more sense to learn just one platform, and Teams is the one that the school is using to send assignments, etc. Why would I also want to learn Zoom? And I have yet to see live teaching. We get recorded videos of our teachers teaching.

Teams is better because you can record and keep the video of the call. So any kid who misses it can still watch it. You can also post messages and assignments all in one space.

No, no one should be recording. That's a privacy violation and should not be done. Teachers on my son's calls specifically tell them not to record. Luckily it's easy to tell who is doing it.

We are told to record to cover ourselves and to share with students later. The videos are only on Teams so they are not publicly shared. All the kids are alerted that they are being recorded and can easily see. That being said, all you need to do is contact your principal and opt out of video conferencing.

I don't want to opt out of video conferencing, but I also don't want teachers recording my child. Surely you can see there is a middle ground here.

What’s the middle ground? Most of my colleagues are recording videos just of themselves and posting on YouTube. Zero interaction with kids. I either do that or record the video with kids. I won’t video chat with kids and not have evidence that nothing happened when you complain later. My job is not worth it. You may opt out.

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Hahah middle ground! You mean teach the live lesson then go back and record the lesson a second time without kids?! Give me a break. Here are your options:
1. Participate in the live lesson and turn of your child's video and mute them.
2. Don't participate in the live lesson and watch the recorded video later.

[Anonymous]

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[Anonymous]

If you have have a waiting room zoom is pretty darn secure.

[Anonymous]

I’m so happy they took away the zoom ban. I was going to use it anyway! So I’m set

[Anonymous]

DCPS teacher here. I'm using zoom and teams. Teams is great for small groups with a maximum of 4 students. Zoom is perfect for morning meetings so that all the students can see each other, share stories, play games, engage in activities, and be together as a class, even if virtually. I think you are all underestimating the importance or the social and emotional well-being of children. As a teacher I like to see whether or not my students are OK. 30 minutes is better than nothing. Zoom can be secure if you follow their suggestions like waiting room, only host can allow, and password.

[Anonymous]

I think the waiting room fixes a lot of issues.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:DCPS teacher here. I'm using zoom and teams. Teams is great for small groups with a maximum of 4 students. Zoom is perfect for morning meetings so that all the students can see each other, share stories, play games, engage in activities, and be together as a class, even if virtually. I think you are all underestimating the importance or the social and emotional well-being of children. As a teacher I like to see whether or not my students are OK. 30 minutes is better than nothing. Zoom can be secure if you follow their suggestions like waiting room, only host can allow, and password.

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Can you please run DCPS/OSSE? What you wrote is so much more coherent and relevant than any message they've sent teachers.
-fellow DCPS teacher who loves Zoom

[Anonymous]

So, video schooling is not as well supervised as the in-person physical version?

We can't, say, switch to on-line Army boot camp? Uncivilized children need adult supervision?

I'm shocked. What an unforeseeable turn of events.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’m so happy they took away the zoom ban. I was going to use it anyway! So I’m set

Where did they say they are taking away the ban?