runners: please stay away from me

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:You aren’t going to catch coronavirus in the fraction of a second the runner is near you.

Why not?

Because if you were likely to, EVERYONE would have it at this point. It's not measles.

I think someone panting and sweating is way more likely to hit me with their droplets than someone just walking calmly by.

Look, I know you need fodder to keep your anxiety wheels running, but you clearly don't understand how minuscule this is. About as minuscule as catching COVID from staying locked in your home, but opening a window.

I had the flu 6 years ago, and it had no effect on my lugs like COVID 19 does. It started like this:

- sunday runday, let's go!
- (7 minutes in) omg what's wrong with me I feel like I've been hit by a big truck
- regular flu symptoms come on rapidly, aches, chills, fever, etc.

This coronavirus situation is clearly a lungs/breathing thing. I know you're not a runner nor have ever been one, but I cannot imagine running 1 minute with it, if my body reacted so quickly to having the flu (w/ zero respiratory effect)

Stop clinging to your anxiety like it's a warm comfort blanket. Or just stay home (where you can't eliminate all risk to 100.00000000%). Or just admit what you really dislike is cooties.

hey dummy - people are most contagious at the beginning, before they feel that sick.

by now, pedestrians are giving each other ample room. runners need to do the same.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:As a runner I am trying to give people I pass a wide berth. Sometimes you just can’t. I pass people chatting away walking 3 abreast. I pass kids stopped dead on the path. I pass people randomly stopping and taking pictures of cherry blossoms. The paths and sidewalks are crowded, and I have to watch out for speedy bikers.

What are you going to do if I run past you within less than 6 feet. Run to catch up and confront me? Not likely, and that’s an even bigger risk.

For those walking 3 abreast I usually suffice with shooting them dirty looks or a “what the hell” shoulder shrug as I pass them.

Why don't you shout, "Excuse me, coming through"????

I do. Like earlier today when I had to yell out “excuse me!” to pass the 2 people walking in front of me taking up the entire sidewalk. Both sides of the sidewalk.

So as long as we’re on the PSAs to runners, walkers- be aware that the trails are crowded af right now. Stop chatting and move over. Keep your kids close to you (and yes, I have kids and walk with them on the trails). Parents on bikes: Teach kids proper trail etiquette when on bikes. Let them know they can’t just stop without moving over. Bikers: stop threading the needle.

We all need to realize the trails are being used extensively right now, and we all have to be respectful not only of social distancing space, but of basic trail safety.

sounds like nobody should be on those trails!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:You aren’t going to catch coronavirus in the fraction of a second the runner is near you.

Why not?

Because if you were likely to, EVERYONE would have it at this point. It's not measles.

I think someone panting and sweating is way more likely to hit me with their droplets than someone just walking calmly by.

Look, I know you need fodder to keep your anxiety wheels running, but you clearly don't understand how minuscule this is. About as minuscule as catching COVID from staying locked in your home, but opening a window.

I had the flu 6 years ago, and it had no effect on my lugs like COVID 19 does. It started like this:

- sunday runday, let's go!
- (7 minutes in) omg what's wrong with me I feel like I've been hit by a big truck
- regular flu symptoms come on rapidly, aches, chills, fever, etc.

This coronavirus situation is clearly a lungs/breathing thing. I know you're not a runner nor have ever been one, but I cannot imagine running 1 minute with it, if my body reacted so quickly to having the flu (w/ zero respiratory effect)

Stop clinging to your anxiety like it's a warm comfort blanket. Or just stay home (where you can't eliminate all risk to 100.00000000%). Or just admit what you really dislike is cooties.

hey dummy - people are most contagious at the beginning, before they feel that sick.

by now, pedestrians are giving each other ample room. runners need to do the same.

BS. No they’re not. Half the walkers I pass are using this time to catch up with their bestie on the latest.

Walk alone. Or staggered. Don’t feel like you need to walk in the middle of the lane. Stay. To. The. Right. And I will pass you with more than 6 feet.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Runner and walker here. It can be really hard to give people 6 feet of space for various reasons. How about you find 3 and I will find the other 3?

I can’t give you 3 feet if you come up behind me. You’re overtaking me - your job to move over.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You aren’t going to catch coronavirus in the fraction of a second the runner is near you.

Why not?

Because if you were likely to, EVERYONE would have it at this point. It's not measles.

I think someone panting and sweating is way more likely to hit me with their droplets than someone just walking calmly by.

Look, I know you need fodder to keep your anxiety wheels running, but you clearly don't understand how minuscule this is. About as minuscule as catching COVID from staying locked in your home, but opening a window.

I had the flu 6 years ago, and it had no effect on my lugs like COVID 19 does. It started like this:

- sunday runday, let's go!
- (7 minutes in) omg what's wrong with me I feel like I've been hit by a big truck
- regular flu symptoms come on rapidly, aches, chills, fever, etc.

This coronavirus situation is clearly a lungs/breathing thing. I know you're not a runner nor have ever been one, but I cannot imagine running 1 minute with it, if my body reacted so quickly to having the flu (w/ zero respiratory effect)

Stop clinging to your anxiety like it's a warm comfort blanket. Or just stay home (where you can't eliminate all risk to 100.00000000%). Or just admit what you really dislike is cooties.

hey dummy - people are most contagious at the beginning, before they feel that sick.

by now, pedestrians are giving each other ample room. runners need to do the same.

I have run for many years, multiple times a week. I am not a fast runner, so people often pass me.

PP I think there's something wrong with your behavior on sidewalks/trails, because I can think on one hand how many times I've been startled by someone coming up and passing closely. You must be very unaware of your surroundings or distracted. I know when people are approaching even from behind, and make adjustments. Or perhaps you do not understand "rules" like keeping to the right, not walking 2-3+ abreast or in groups. Maybe you really just lake spatial awareness and who is behind, but that is your issue and something you need to figure out,

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:As a runner I am trying to give people I pass a wide berth. Sometimes you just can’t. I pass people chatting away walking 3 abreast. I pass kids stopped dead on the path. I pass people randomly stopping and taking pictures of cherry blossoms. The paths and sidewalks are crowded, and I have to watch out for speedy bikers.

What are you going to do if I run past you within less than 6 feet. Run to catch up and confront me? Not likely, and that’s an even bigger risk.

For those walking 3 abreast I usually suffice with shooting them dirty looks or a “what the hell” shoulder shrug as I pass them.

Why don't you shout, "Excuse me, coming through"????

I do. Like earlier today when I had to yell out “excuse me!” to pass the 2 people walking in front of me taking up the entire sidewalk. Both sides of the sidewalk.

So as long as we’re on the PSAs to runners, walkers- be aware that the trails are crowded af right now. Stop chatting and move over. Keep your kids close to you (and yes, I have kids and walk with them on the trails). Parents on bikes: Teach kids proper trail etiquette when on bikes. Let them know they can’t just stop without moving over. Bikers: stop threading the needle.

We all need to realize the trails are being used extensively right now, and we all have to be respectful not only of social distancing space, but of basic trail safety.

sounds like nobody should be on those trails!

You may be right. At this point, I am comfortable that my solo trail use is not exceeding thresholds for my own personal risk or that of my community. If the powers that be determine otherwise, I will remain indoors.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You aren’t going to catch coronavirus in the fraction of a second the runner is near you.

Why not?

Because if you were likely to, EVERYONE would have it at this point. It's not measles.

I think someone panting and sweating is way more likely to hit me with their droplets than someone just walking calmly by.

Look, I know you need fodder to keep your anxiety wheels running, but you clearly don't understand how minuscule this is. About as minuscule as catching COVID from staying locked in your home, but opening a window.

I had the flu 6 years ago, and it had no effect on my lugs like COVID 19 does. It started like this:

- sunday runday, let's go!
- (7 minutes in) omg what's wrong with me I feel like I've been hit by a big truck
- regular flu symptoms come on rapidly, aches, chills, fever, etc.

This coronavirus situation is clearly a lungs/breathing thing. I know you're not a runner nor have ever been one, but I cannot imagine running 1 minute with it, if my body reacted so quickly to having the flu (w/ zero respiratory effect)

Stop clinging to your anxiety like it's a warm comfort blanket. Or just stay home (where you can't eliminate all risk to 100.00000000%). Or just admit what you really dislike is cooties.

hey dummy - people are most contagious at the beginning, before they feel that sick.

by now, pedestrians are giving each other ample room. runners need to do the same.

Stop spreading misinformation. From cdc website:

Can someone spread the virus without being sick?

People are thought to be most contagious when they are most symptomatic (the sickest).
Some spread might be possible before people show symptoms; there have been reports of this occurring with this new coronavirus, but this is not thought to be the main way the virus spreads.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You aren’t going to catch coronavirus in the fraction of a second the runner is near you.

Why not?

Because if you were likely to, EVERYONE would have it at this point. It's not measles.

I think someone panting and sweating is way more likely to hit me with their droplets than someone just walking calmly by.

Look, I know you need fodder to keep your anxiety wheels running, but you clearly don't understand how minuscule this is. About as minuscule as catching COVID from staying locked in your home, but opening a window.

I had the flu 6 years ago, and it had no effect on my lugs like COVID 19 does. It started like this:

- sunday runday, let's go!
- (7 minutes in) omg what's wrong with me I feel like I've been hit by a big truck
- regular flu symptoms come on rapidly, aches, chills, fever, etc.

This coronavirus situation is clearly a lungs/breathing thing. I know you're not a runner nor have ever been one, but I cannot imagine running 1 minute with it, if my body reacted so quickly to having the flu (w/ zero respiratory effect)

Stop clinging to your anxiety like it's a warm comfort blanket. Or just stay home (where you can't eliminate all risk to 100.00000000%). Or just admit what you really dislike is cooties.

hey dummy - people are most contagious at the beginning, before they feel that sick.

by now, pedestrians are giving each other ample room. runners need to do the same.

Stop spreading misinformation. From cdc website:

Can someone spread the virus without being sick?

People are thought to be most contagious when they are most symptomatic (the sickest).
Some spread might be possible before people show symptoms; there have been reports of this occurring with this new coronavirus, but this is not thought to be the main way the virus spreads.

Nope - the evidence now suggests viral load is highest at the beginning, when you are starting to get sick.

https://www.livescience.com/amp/coronavirus-sheds-early-in-disease.html

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:A runner literally brushed my shoulder while passing me yesterday on a closed Beach Drive where there was plenty of room for everyone. That's the kind of crap that will mean we all don't get to keep going outside in public spaces. The fact that you're healthy and out for a run does not give you the right to violate other people's 6-foot perimeter.

I would find what the runner did unless you were in the wrong (walking in the middle of the sidewalk, not on the right side, etc). It's called a "shoulder check" and it's done to people who have terrible etiquette or aren't paying attention.

But honestly I think if you're really concerned that people like this are going to make you sick, you should stay home or walk in very remote areas.

The hell?? I was walking at a good pace with a child on my shoulders, on the right side of a two lane road. There is no way one does that wrong. Also hitting someone for it is literal assault. My jaw is on the desk at the thought that anyone would defend that behavior at any time, but especially right now.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A runner literally brushed my shoulder while passing me yesterday on a closed Beach Drive where there was plenty of room for everyone. That's the kind of crap that will mean we all don't get to keep going outside in public spaces. The fact that you're healthy and out for a run does not give you the right to violate other people's 6-foot perimeter.

I would find what the runner did unless you were in the wrong (walking in the middle of the sidewalk, not on the right side, etc). It's called a "shoulder check" and it's done to people who have terrible etiquette or aren't paying attention.

But honestly I think if you're really concerned that people like this are going to make you sick, you should stay home or walk in very remote areas.

The hell?? I was walking at a good pace with a child on my shoulders, on the right side of a two lane road. There is no way one does that wrong. Also hitting someone for it is literal assault. My jaw is on the desk at the thought that anyone would defend that behavior at any time, but especially right now.

I began a thread Saturday(?) after an oncoming cyclist spit a big wad of phlegm right in front of me. I'm minding my own business, walking on my side of the trail, my dog to my right, and the trail was not crowded. I mentioned there were no other people in the immediate vicinity and he could have waited a few seconds to spit after he had cycled past me. PPs who probably are cyclists responded unsympathetically. But really, WHO spits right in front of someone? Under best of circumstances that is such bad manners. With the current health crisis, what he did was inexcusable. Anyone walking on the trail after he's gone could step on the spit and if he's infected, carry it forward on the sole of the shoe. People can be such horrid backwards ignorant idiots.

[Anonymous]

In my experience- I stay as far to my side of the path as possible, often going off path to allow for space. Runners will still run right passed me allowing no space. It’s selfish not to even attempt social distancing which is really the best any of us can do if we’re either on a path in rock creek or a sidewalk. There’s really no where to go- unless you go into traffic or shimmy up the side of a hill, but we should all try to maintain some space between us.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A runner literally brushed my shoulder while passing me yesterday on a closed Beach Drive where there was plenty of room for everyone. That's the kind of crap that will mean we all don't get to keep going outside in public spaces. The fact that you're healthy and out for a run does not give you the right to violate other people's 6-foot perimeter.

I would find what the runner did unless you were in the wrong (walking in the middle of the sidewalk, not on the right side, etc). It's called a "shoulder check" and it's done to people who have terrible etiquette or aren't paying attention.

But honestly I think if you're really concerned that people like this are going to make you sick, you should stay home or walk in very remote areas.

The hell?? I was walking at a good pace with a child on my shoulders, on the right side of a two lane road. There is no way one does that wrong. Also hitting someone for it is literal assault. My jaw is on the desk at the thought that anyone would defend that behavior at any time, but especially right now.

I began a thread Saturday(?) after an oncoming cyclist spit a big wad of phlegm right in front of me. I'm minding my own business, walking on my side of the trail, my dog to my right, and the trail was not crowded. I mentioned there were no other people in the immediate vicinity and he could have waited a few seconds to spit after he had cycled past me. PPs who probably are cyclists responded unsympathetically. But really, WHO spits right in front of someone? Under best of circumstances that is such bad manners. With the current health crisis, what he did was inexcusable. Anyone walking on the trail after he's gone could step on the spit and if he's infected, carry it forward on the sole of the shoe. People can be such horrid backwards ignorant idiots.

That’s so gross! Why?! Your post made me so mad. Sorry that happened. That was incredibly rude.

[Anonymous]

And stop running in the f-ing street at crack of dawn without reflective gear—nobody can see you! I’m tslkingbyou to you lady this morning on LeeHighwsy rinningbinto oncoming traffic...you were virtually invisible at 5:50 AM.

[Anonymous]

7:31 - problem is, now they're telling us all to get out early before the crowds do. There's a lot of conflicting messages out there. Since daylight saving time ended and shifted everything an hour early, the sun is rising pretty late for people trying to run before work. I've had to shift my running to the afternoon until the sun is rising a bit earlier.

(Though when I'm not running, I agree, runners are hard to see when they're not wearing light or reflective gear, and I worry about their visibility.)

[Anonymous]

also, why the hell is anyone running ON Lee Highway? There are sidewalks on that road. I saw someone running on Wilson Blvd one morning when it was pitch black and wondered what the hell he was thinking. I imagine more than one driver had a near miss.