Diversity concern at liberal arts schools

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Yes, we saw many Trump placards in rural PA yards.

The campuses are not like this...but the surrounding communities are.

Part of America, unfortunately.

Funny choice of words, given context.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yes, we saw many Trump placards in rural PA yards.

The campuses are not like this...but the surrounding communities are.

Part of America, unfortunately.

Trump placards are one thing. Confederate flags are another, and yes those aren't prevalent on campus. BUT, it certainly would make one ;think twice about venturing off campus.

I think it would greatly behoove posters on DCUM to actually talk to these folks in rural America. You might find that a Confederate flag means something other than white supremacy to them. You might want to calmly talk politics with a Trump supporter without first calling him a racist. It might be informative. After all, these people constitute about one half of the population of the US.

+ a million.

Amazing that some posters don't get this in a thread about diversity.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yes, we saw many Trump placards in rural PA yards.

The campuses are not like this...but the surrounding communities are.

Part of America, unfortunately.

Trump placards are one thing. Confederate flags are another, and yes those aren't prevalent on campus. BUT, it certainly would make one ;think twice about venturing off campus.

I think it would greatly behoove posters on DCUM to actually talk to these folks in rural America. You might find that a Confederate flag means something other than white supremacy to them. You might want to calmly talk politics with a Trump supporter without first calling him a racist. It might be informative. After all, these people constitute about one half of the population of the US.

Who, you mean someone that blends in? Because there is no way I am telling my kids, walk up to someone that has a symbol that is also used by Neo Nazi’s and find out if perhaps they are a collector of historical artifacts. Yes, they could absolutely have some other reason but why would I have my kids take that chance with their safety?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you apply to schools who have trouble with diversity, they will probably value your child's application more. My Asian child got wined and dined by many SLAC's because they want to keep their minority numbers up. (Like they offered to fly her to campus for Admitted students day, sponsored special "identity" dinners with the dean the night before, etc).

wow!

This is not unique to Asian American students. They do similar events for African American, Latino, and first-generation students of all racial and ethnic backgrounds. These schools do seem to be trying to diversify their student bodies.

I wonder whether the fact that so many are in rural or semi-rural locations hurts as well. For example, the community surrounding Kenyon is really conservative - my (white) son and I toured and saw 3 confederate flags in front of homes within 5 miles of campus. It was jarring, to say the least (and yes, not all rural people are racists...) but if you look at the Trump vote percentages in the areas surrounding Denison, Kenyon, Wooster, OWU, for example, it is stark.

I think you may be right, because when I look at the midwestern (but nationally ranked) small liberal arts colleges listed earlier the two in more urban environments (Macalester and Kalamazoo) had more diverse statistics than the more rural ones.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yes, we saw many Trump placards in rural PA yards.

The campuses are not like this...but the surrounding communities are.

Part of America, unfortunately.

Trump placards are one thing. Confederate flags are another, and yes those aren't prevalent on campus. BUT, it certainly would make one ;think twice about venturing off campus.

I think it would greatly behoove posters on DCUM to actually talk to these folks in rural America. You might find that a Confederate flag means something other than white supremacy to them. You might want to calmly talk politics with a Trump supporter without first calling him a racist. It might be informative. After all, these people constitute about one half of the population of the US.

+ a million.

Amazing that some posters don't get this in a thread about diversity.

Amazing that some folks don’t get this is a college forum and not the politics forum.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yes, we saw many Trump placards in rural PA yards.

The campuses are not like this...but the surrounding communities are.

Part of America, unfortunately.

Trump placards are one thing. Confederate flags are another, and yes those aren't prevalent on campus. BUT, it certainly would make one ;think twice about venturing off campus.

I think it would greatly behoove posters on DCUM to actually talk to these folks in rural America. You might find that a Confederate flag means something other than white supremacy to them. You might want to calmly talk politics with a Trump supporter without first calling him a racist. It might be informative. After all, these people constitute about one half of the population of the US.

Who, you mean someone that blends in? Because there is no way I am telling my kids, walk up to someone that has a symbol that is also used by Neo Nazi’s and find out if perhaps they are a collector of historical artifacts. Yes, they could absolutely have some other reason but why would I have my kids take that chance with their safety?

Yeah all the folks who have lived generations in Ohio have deep southern pride that they are showing with their confederate flags. I grew up in rural midwest and have talked with them a plenty and still do when I go back home. They might not say "white supremacy" -- what they mean is 'don't give no sh*t to good ol' boys about whatever we do."

[Anonymous]

COLLEGE, people, a COLLEGE forum. Don’t make me click that report button. Take your shit elsewhere.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:COLLEGE, people, a COLLEGE forum. Don’t make me click that report button. Take your shit elsewhere.

Sorry! I'm the PP who responded when I should have known better.

[Anonymous]

PP, what percentage of Asian-American students are you targeting as ideal? FYI, we have the same conversations as well. We’re Black, most of DD’s friends are white, and she still doesn’t want to attend a college with the typical SLAC demographics.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:PP, what percentage of Asian-American students are you targeting as ideal? FYI, we have the same conversations as well. We’re Black, most of DD’s friends are white, and she still doesn’t want to attend a college with the typical SLAC demographics.

This was meant for OP.

[Anonymous]

It depends on the college OP. If they are trying to diversify, your daughter may be able to receive scholarships, merit aid, etc... Not such a bad deal.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:PP, what percentage of Asian-American students are you targeting as ideal? FYI, we have the same conversations as well. We’re Black, most of DD’s friends are white, and she still doesn’t want to attend a college with the typical SLAC demographics.

This was meant for OP.

Atleast 15-20%. I think diversity is important and not just for her own comfort and safety.

[Anonymous]

This video, "100 Colgate Students of Color" seems worth sharing as part of this thread. https://youtu.be/_U8_jzG-Wy8

Colgate is 65% white.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:PP, what percentage of Asian-American students are you targeting as ideal? FYI, we have the same conversations as well. We’re Black, most of DD’s friends are white, and she still doesn’t want to attend a college with the typical SLAC demographics.

This was meant for OP.

Atleast 15-20%. I think diversity is important and not just for her own comfort and safety.

The problem is that you aren't going to find it at any college except the very elite. And there, being Asian is not a benefit.
This is entirely due to Asians only being 6% of the college age population and the average Asian preference for only looking at elite schools. The best you can do is look in geographic areas with greater Asian density such as California or Hawaii. Having 15 to 20% Asian isn't diversity; it's over-representation.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:PP, what percentage of Asian-American students are you targeting as ideal? FYI, we have the same conversations as well. We’re Black, most of DD’s friends are white, and she still doesn’t want to attend a college with the typical SLAC demographics.

This was meant for OP.

Atleast 15-20%. I think diversity is important and not just for her own comfort and safety.

The problem is that you aren't going to find it at any college except the very elite. And there, being Asian is not a benefit.
This is entirely due to Asians only being 6% of the college age population and the average Asian preference for only looking at elite schools. The best you can do is look in geographic areas with greater Asian density such as California or Hawaii. Having 15 to 20% Asian isn't diversity; it's over-representation.

+1 We think of seeking schools where the diversity matches the overall college age population not one that over-represents "our group." As an aside, SLACs may have 10% or so international students that also add to the diversity.