s/o: DCPS boundary and assignment rules that really need to change

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:SWW@FS and Ross must feed to the new Shaw Middle as originally planned. That would cut down on crowding at SWW@FS and set Shaw up for success.

Call upper NW's bluff on overcrowding and cut their PK4 waay back-- only enough to provide inclusion classes for special ed students and the at-risk kids who live IB.

I love this idea. I paid for private preschool because I thought DCPS PreK was for only low income families, like a Head Start program. I could not believe they opened it up to wealthy families. If you live in a $1M house, you can afford PreK.

Thank you social justice warrior. I love how you assume that just because a house is WORTH a million the people inside can afford it. Did you also stop to consider that people’s might not want private Pre K and have to deal with snobby idiots?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Push all you want, you won't be heard. Back in 2013-14, some of us on Cap Hill spend a good deal of time and energy pushing for a Pan Ward 6 middle school, perhaps with two campus, one at Stuart Hobson, the other at Eliot-Hine. There was broad support for our proposal at the grassroots, but were totally ignored by Ward 6 and DCPS. As a result, most of the 4th graders at the majority IB DCPS elementary schools in Ward 6 don't return for 5th grade. The families run to Washington Latin or BASIS to get on viable a 5th-12th grade track. The politicians don't, and never did, give a damn. That's the sad reality of the situation.

Yup. That's it, that's all.

The city isn't run for rich white racist people.

The end result is are two underenrolled middle schools, Elliot Hine & Jefferson. EH had a capacity of 850, enrolled 250. Jefferson 450 capacity, 350 enrolled. Point being, far fewer families of all races are choosing those schools than DCPS intended. Who knows if other plans would have failed to attract students. the current one has.

One other comment: DCPS did a realignment of middle school on the hill back in 2011. The fifth grade of Hobson moved to Watkins, adding IB to Hine. Before my time so I don’t know what else. 2013/14 may have been too soon to revisit, but plenty of evidence about how the feeder patterns and enrollment are doing at this point.

https://w6pspo.org/2010/07/30/ward-6-middle-schools-plan-good-stuff-for-capitol-hill-students/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Push all you want, you won't be heard. Back in 2013-14, some of us on Cap Hill spend a good deal of time and energy pushing for a Pan Ward 6 middle school, perhaps with two campus, one at Stuart Hobson, the other at Eliot-Hine. There was broad support for our proposal at the grassroots, but were totally ignored by Ward 6 and DCPS. As a result, most of the 4th graders at the majority IB DCPS elementary schools in Ward 6 don't return for 5th grade. The families run to Washington Latin or BASIS to get on viable a 5th-12th grade track. The politicians don't, and never did, give a damn. That's the sad reality of the situation.

Yup. That's it, that's all.

The city isn't run for rich white racist people.

The end result is are two underenrolled middle schools, Elliot Hine & Jefferson. EH had a capacity of 850, enrolled 250. Jefferson 450 capacity, 350 enrolled. Point being, far fewer families of all races are choosing those schools than DCPS intended. Who knows if other plans would have failed to attract students. the current one has.

One other comment: DCPS did a realignment of middle school on the hill back in 2011. The fifth grade of Hobson moved to Watkins, adding IB to Hine. Before my time so I don’t know what else. 2013/14 may have been too soon to revisit, but plenty of evidence about how the feeder patterns and enrollment are doing at this point.

https://w6pspo.org/2010/07/30/ward-6-middle-schools-plan-good-stuff-for-capitol-hill-students/

Found the old DCPS PowerPoint. This is also when Ludlow Taylor was added to Stuart Hobson. Maybe JO Wilson too?

https://dcps.dc.gov/sites/default/files/dc/sites/dcps/publication/attachments/DCPS-Ward%206-Building%20on%20Momentum%20FINAL-%207-30.pdf

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:SWW@FS and Ross must feed to the new Shaw Middle as originally planned. That would cut down on crowding at SWW@FS and set Shaw up for success.

Call upper NW's bluff on overcrowding and cut their PK4 waay back-- only enough to provide inclusion classes for special ed students and the at-risk kids who live IB.

I love this idea. I paid for private preschool because I thought DCPS PreK was for only low income families, like a Head Start program. I could not believe they opened it up to wealthy families. If you live in a $1M house, you can afford PreK.

But it's not for low income families. It's universal PreK. It's for everyone. And when we all use the services that are for everyone, we get better services. If rich people opt out, the services decline, and you see (a) the folks who have social capital and time don't fight for them, and (b) the quality declines because we provide Only Enough for The Deserving Poor.

I want the people who live in million dollar houses to be invested in public infrastructure, like education, and transportation, and clean water.

As I said, when my kids were PreK aged I didn’t realize it was universal. I am very invested in public infrastructure but my kids didn’t go public for PreK. They go public now. While I am invested, I am not sure lower income residents in DC want me fighting for them.

Well then you’re just an ill-informed (wasteful) rich person. When your kid was in PK there were probably many open PK spots near you. Or did you not want your kid to go to school with possible poor kids?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Set aside spots at DCI for DCPS bilingual feeders. Why should DCPS dual language kids have no shot at a better bilingual middle school Its incredibally unfair that a kid who got lucky in PK3 in MV gets to coast all the way through high school in bilingual charters.
Create a true test in magnet middle school

Better yet, give all students equal opportunity to attend DCPS bilingual schools by making the schools citywide. We need to end the system of some people being able to buy into a bilingual schools while many recent immigrant families are shut out.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Set aside spots at DCI for DCPS bilingual feeders. Why should DCPS dual language kids have no shot at a better bilingual middle school Its incredibally unfair that a kid who got lucky in PK3 in MV gets to coast all the way through high school in bilingual charters.
Create a true test in magnet middle school

Disagree. DCI is a charter. DCPS runs bilingual programs at MacFarland and Roosevelt and should work at making those better. There aren't enough seats at DCI for the students graduating from its feeder schools already.

That’s my point. Macfarland is going. Go take 15 years to become viable. Why should DCPS bilingual kids not have equal chance at DCI like the bilingual charters. And DCPS doesn’t turn any schools around. Only cohort of parents can do that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Set aside spots at DCI for DCPS bilingual feeders. Why should DCPS dual language kids have no shot at a better bilingual middle school Its incredibally unfair that a kid who got lucky in PK3 in MV gets to coast all the way through high school in bilingual charters.
Create a true test in magnet middle school

Disagree. DCI is a charter. DCPS runs bilingual programs at MacFarland and Roosevelt and should work at making those better. There aren't enough seats at DCI for the students graduating from its feeder schools already.

That’s my point. Macfarland is going. Go take 15 years to become viable. Why should DCPS bilingual kids not have equal chance at DCI like the bilingual charters. And DCPS doesn’t turn any schools around. Only cohort of parents can do that.

This will never happen. They are two different school systems.

Those charter schools had to get a special exception to make the feeders happen and DCI is already making kids from the expanded feeders lottery in.. I believe the Montessori schools are trying to get a similar exception now. No guarantee they’ll get it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Set aside spots at DCI for DCPS bilingual feeders. Why should DCPS dual language kids have no shot at a better bilingual middle school Its incredibally unfair that a kid who got lucky in PK3 in MV gets to coast all the way through high school in bilingual charters.
Create a true test in magnet middle school

Better yet, give all students equal opportunity to attend DCPS bilingual schools by making the schools citywide. We need to end the system of some people being able to buy into a bilingual schools while many recent immigrant families are shut out.

1) DCPS dual language programs (MacFarland) do not set aside spots for bilingual students who are outside a DCPS program. So why should DCI?

2) I could not agree with this more. All dual language, just like the DCPS Montessori and Reggio schools should be city-wide.

And DCPS should continue to require half the seats go to children who are dominant in the target language. No by-right school should be a dual language - and there should also be 1 in each ward.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Set aside spots at DCI for DCPS bilingual feeders. Why should DCPS dual language kids have no shot at a better bilingual middle school Its incredibally unfair that a kid who got lucky in PK3 in MV gets to coast all the way through high school in bilingual charters.
Create a true test in magnet middle school

Better yet, give all students equal opportunity to attend DCPS bilingual schools by making the schools citywide. We need to end the system of some people being able to buy into a bilingual schools while many recent immigrant families are shut out.

1) DCPS dual language programs (MacFarland) do not set aside spots for bilingual students who are outside a DCPS program. So why should DCI?

2) I could not agree with this more. All dual language, just like the DCPS Montessori and Reggio schools should be city-wide.

And DCPS should continue to require half the seats go to children who are dominant in the target language. No by-right school should be a dual language - and there should also be 1 in each ward.

That is like saying - IB programs should be city wide. Or how about programs that are affiliated with Fillmore - or schools that have honors classes? Should those be open to all?

The school systems us less than perfect.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Set aside spots at DCI for DCPS bilingual feeders. Why should DCPS dual language kids have no shot at a better bilingual middle school Its incredibally unfair that a kid who got lucky in PK3 in MV gets to coast all the way through high school in bilingual charters.
Create a true test in magnet middle school

Better yet, give all students equal opportunity to attend DCPS bilingual schools by making the schools citywide. We need to end the system of some people being able to buy into a bilingual schools while many recent immigrant families are shut out.

1) DCPS dual language programs (MacFarland) do not set aside spots for bilingual students who are outside a DCPS program. So why should DCI?

2) I could not agree with this more. All dual language, just like the DCPS Montessori and Reggio schools should be city-wide.

And DCPS should continue to require half the seats go to children who are dominant in the target language. No by-right school should be a dual language - and there should also be 1 in each ward.

That is like saying - IB programs should be city wide. Or how about programs that are affiliated with Fillmore - or schools that have honors classes? Should those be open to all?

The school systems us less than perfect.

The Fillmore programs continue to exist only because of space limitation, and DCPS is trying to cut them back anyway. And I wouldn't disagree with making IB city-wide -- or eliminating it everywhere except the application high schools. It isn't done very well in DCPS ES and MS as it is.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:SWW@FS and Ross must feed to the new Shaw Middle as originally planned. That would cut down on crowding at SWW@FS and set Shaw up for success.

Call upper NW's bluff on overcrowding and cut their PK4 waay back-- only enough to provide inclusion classes for special ed students and the at-risk kids who live IB.

I love this idea. I paid for private preschool because I thought DCPS PreK was for only low income families, like a Head Start program. I could not believe they opened it up to wealthy families. If you live in a $1M house, you can afford PreK.

Weird flex to advertise your ignorance and not learning something until it was too late.