Is watching football a homoerotic activity for men?

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Anonymous wrote:You sound homophobic, OP.

How is it homophobic?

It embraces a specific (and problematic) view of masculinity and then assumes anything that doesn’t fit that view must be “gay.” Never mind that those uniforms might be better for performance, “real” men don’t wear skin tight clothes so it must be to appeal to gay men. And “real” men would be too uncomfortable to see other men in tight clothes, so “real” men would prefer lower-quality gameplay in order to not see men in tight pants. “Real” men avoid all physical contact, so a chest bump must mean they’re gay.

Huh? No. That's not what I meant at all. It has nothing to do with rejecting or assigning a certain type of masculinity to anyone. Where did that come from? I was talking about WATCHING football, not being a football player. And I don't think there's anything wrong with being gay either. (I guess I forgot to add "Not that there's anything wrong with it" to my post so of course you must assume I'm homophobic )

I played football in high school, and did wrestling, boxing, and karate in high school and college. I'll let you in on a little secret. You know who gets a sexual thrill from watching men come in contact with other men? It's not the male spectators - it is the female spectators. When our team won, or when I personally hit some guy so hard he didn't get up again, this caused a lot of panties in the audience to get sopping wet. Perhaps this does not apply to the gentle, refined readers of DCUM, but I assure you that all those sports (and many others besides) have groupies who will eagerly throw themselves at the feet of a strong, victorious man.*

* Tell your sons this!

What gentle, refined readers?

Snort! WRESTLING turns straight WOMEN on? Hehehehehe

Yes. And I'll tell you what, my DS who is a college wrestler has a smoking hot girlfriend, too.

This is disturbing. You shouldn’t be trying to sleep with your son’s girlfriend

Did I say I was doing that? I'm not, so settle down, idiot.

You just called your sons girlfriend smoking hot. That is sick!

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Anonymous wrote:Or what??? One of my kids is really into watching sports on tv so I've been watching a lot of football lately. Wow.... The football players are wearing those skin-tight tights that reveal their chiseled butts and thighs, their arms extending out of their jerseys are totally muscular and perfect. They're constantly giving each other congratulatory pats on each others' butts and doing chest-bumps, and leaning their helmets against each other -- they must be able to breathe each others' breath. And then of course they're falling all over each other on the field.

How can watching all this not be a homo-erotic event for men? Or is that a well-established fact that I've somehow missed? It seems like if it were for straight men, they would at least change the uniforms to be less sexy....

You’ve caught us, OP. Tens of millions of men, pining for the love that dare not speak its name, week after week after week. The erotic thrill associated with watching a sweaty, 330 pound defensive tackle tackle a slender, dare I say twink-like quarterback. Oh, golly. Don’t believe the haters or those in denial here. And don’t get me started on the “tight ends” or “wide receivers.” Could you be any more obvious? The man-on-man action in the restrooms at “Hooters”—a national chain that makes its money as a beard—any given Sunday has to be seen to be believed. I’m surprised it took you so long to notice.

You wouldn’t have put so much effort into this post if OP hadn’t touched a nerve.

There’s homoeroticism and also sanctioned violence. But there’s also just the expression of emotion, both between the players and in the viewers. Men don’t have a lot of ways to express those feelings.

It wasn’t much effort; truthfully kind of amusing to write. To be more serious, none of the things OP references scan as sexual to straight guys. But then I would say that, wouldn’t I?

The violence is, of course, part of the appeal. The fact that there is real risk ups the stakes in ways that make the games very intense. It’s the difference between playing poker for the rent money vs. playing for pennies with the kids. And it does tap into a tribalism for which there are few other outlets.

Homoeroticism also appeals to many straight guys.

Well I guess it depends on what you mean by “many” and what you mean by “straight.”

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OP here. I know I don't own the thread but I'm just saying, I wasn't on the thread or responsible for some of the more recent back-and-forth. I like men, BTW, so I have nothing against them whether thye watch football or not, enjoy the erotic nature of it (which is frankly impossible to ignore...) or not, etc. Glad that there have been a couple of thoughtful, honest posts (assuming by men?) since I checked in:


"Homoeroticism also appeals to many straight guys."

"There’s homoeroticism and also sanctioned violence. But there’s also just the expression of emotion, both between the players and in the viewers. Men don’t have a lot of ways to express those feelings."


"The violence is, of course, part of the appeal. The fact that there is real risk ups the stakes in ways that make the games very intense. It’s the difference between playing poker for the rent money vs. playing for pennies with the kids. And it does tap into a tribalism for which there are few other outlets."

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Anonymous wrote:OP here. I know I don't own the thread but I'm just saying, I wasn't on the thread or responsible for some of the more recent back-and-forth. I like men, BTW, so I have nothing against them whether thye watch football or not, enjoy the erotic nature of it (which is frankly impossible to ignore...) or not, etc. Glad that there have been a couple of thoughtful, honest posts (assuming by men?) since I checked in:


"Homoeroticism also appeals to many straight guys."

"There’s homoeroticism and also sanctioned violence. But there’s also just the expression of emotion, both between the players and in the viewers. Men don’t have a lot of ways to express those feelings."


"The violence is, of course, part of the appeal. The fact that there is real risk ups the stakes in ways that make the games very intense. It’s the difference between playing poker for the rent money vs. playing for pennies with the kids. And it does tap into a tribalism for which there are few other outlets."

Most of your quotes were a joke... but okay your thread fell flat and you hopefully learned something about how you were socialized... but I doubt it

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You’re a moron.

x a million. WTF is wrong with you OP??? Are women closets lesbians because they enjoy watching figure skating or gymnastics during the Olympics or World Championships?

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who gives a flying F what women here want to believe. There is nothing, absolutely nothing men can say to dissuade them Rather than accept their premise is completely f*ing looney, they will deflect, nitpick on something you posted and attack you.

they are interested in validating their own f'ed up notions so let them feel good about it b/c you know their DHs will not touch them, so this is what they resort to doing.

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Anonymous wrote:You sound homophobic, OP.

How is it homophobic?

It embraces a specific (and problematic) view of masculinity and then assumes anything that doesn’t fit that view must be “gay.” Never mind that those uniforms might be better for performance, “real” men don’t wear skin tight clothes so it must be to appeal to gay men. And “real” men would be too uncomfortable to see other men in tight clothes, so “real” men would prefer lower-quality gameplay in order to not see men in tight pants. “Real” men avoid all physical contact, so a chest bump must mean they’re gay.

Huh? No. That's not what I meant at all. It has nothing to do with rejecting or assigning a certain type of masculinity to anyone. Where did that come from? I was talking about WATCHING football, not being a football player. And I don't think there's anything wrong with being gay either. (I guess I forgot to add "Not that there's anything wrong with it" to my post so of course you must assume I'm homophobic )

I played football in high school, and did wrestling, boxing, and karate in high school and college. I'll let you in on a little secret. You know who gets a sexual thrill from watching men come in contact with other men? It's not the male spectators - it is the female spectators. When our team won, or when I personally hit some guy so hard he didn't get up again, this caused a lot of panties in the audience to get sopping wet. Perhaps this does not apply to the gentle, refined readers of DCUM, but I assure you that all those sports (and many others besides) have groupies who will eagerly throw themselves at the feet of a strong, victorious man.*

* Tell your sons this!

What gentle, refined readers?

Snort! WRESTLING turns straight WOMEN on? Hehehehehe

Yes. And I'll tell you what, my DS who is a college wrestler has a smoking hot girlfriend, too.

This is disturbing. You shouldn’t be trying to sleep with your son’s girlfriend

Did I say I was doing that? I'm not, so settle down, idiot.

You just called your sons girlfriend smoking hot. That is sick!

You are a moron.

Like many men, I am perfectly capable of observing and appreciating the hotness of women who are totally off-limits to me (e.g., wives and girlfriends of friends, my female coworkers, girls in college with my son) -- and they are never going to know that I think this because, as I said, they are off-limits to me. There is nothing wrong with appreciating female beauty.

I am proud of the boy for many reasons, and the hotness of his girlfriends is just one of them.

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Anonymous wrote:who gives a flying F what women here want to believe. There is nothing, absolutely nothing men can say to dissuade them Rather than accept their premise is completely f*ing looney, they will deflect, nitpick on something you posted and attack you.

they are interested in validating their own f'ed up notions so let them feel good about it b/c you know their DHs will not touch them, so this is what they resort to doing.

Lots of men being bitches on this thread. Why so het up?

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Should I be worried my DH is watching football all day long?

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Anonymous wrote:Or what??? One of my kids is really into watching sports on tv so I've been watching a lot of football lately. Wow.... The football players are wearing those skin-tight tights that reveal their chiseled butts and thighs, their arms extending out of their jerseys are totally muscular and perfect. They're constantly giving each other congratulatory pats on each others' butts and doing chest-bumps, and leaning their helmets against each other -- they must be able to breathe each others' breath. And then of course they're falling all over each other on the field.

How can watching all this not be a homo-erotic event for men? Or is that a well-established fact that I've somehow missed? It seems like if it were for straight men, they would at least change the uniforms to be less sexy....

They wear padding. Butt and thighs. Plus their cup.

You have issues.

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Anonymous wrote:who gives a flying F what women here want to believe. There is nothing, absolutely nothing men can say to dissuade them Rather than accept their premise is completely f*ing looney, they will deflect, nitpick on something you posted and attack you.

they are interested in validating their own f'ed up notions so let them feel good about it b/c you know their DHs will not touch them, so this is what they resort to doing.

Lots of men being bitches on this thread. Why so het up?

They're very touchy at the slightest suggestion that any activity of theirs has a homoerotic aspect (not even homosexual, just homoerotic). If they were truly enlightened beings, comfortable in their own sexuality, this response would not be evoked. But they don't want to have to consider the notion that that there's some truth to the OP's suggestion. Which there certainly is.

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I always thought it seemed gay too.

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Men who are this touchy about anything homoerotic have issues with their own sexuality and since they bristle at the very mention, then they aren't solid in their own sexuality. Men I know who are 100% straight are very comfortable talking to me about gay sex and straight sex without ever feeling threatened. On the thread maybe your kid just loves the game. The same as loving tennis or horseback riding. Maybe too much is being read into him loving the game. Doesn't have anything to do with homoeroticism. Personally I think the game is boring, and I'm sick of paying taxes to build these spoiled multimillionaire players stadiums. Tell them to build their own stadiums with their own money; not the cities/taxpayers money.

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Anonymous wrote:Men who are this touchy about anything homoerotic have issues with their own sexuality and since they bristle at the very mention, then they aren't solid in their own sexuality. Men I know who are 100% straight are very comfortable talking to me about gay sex and straight sex without ever feeling threatened. On the thread maybe your kid just loves the game. The same as loving tennis or horseback riding. Maybe too much is being read into him loving the game. Doesn't have anything to do with homoeroticism. Personally I think the game is boring, and I'm sick of paying taxes to build these spoiled multimillionaire players stadiums. Tell them to build their own stadiums with their own money; not the cities/taxpayers money.

So this is the Sunday you respond to this thread 5 years later?