Teacher suggests I get my son on meds!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:you do rewlize the health forms are on file in the clinic? Teachers can check


PP retired school nurse and this isn't and should not be easily accessible information; it's confidential, protected health information and not accessible for teachers. I had no access to individual student records. Make sense?

I'm a teacher. We all have access to the file room where the records are kept. We're expected to file the forms ourselves. It was jarring at first because the registration documents are in the same file. Identity theft waiting to happen.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Teacher 35+ years public and private.

This would never, I mean never, happen. I'm calling OP out- this is not real. Even if someone thought that ( erroneously) they would not be allowed to say it, and certainly would not be inclined to do so after 6 hours. How stupid do you think respondents are here?

Try again and ask what you really want to know.

That's nice, but basically the exact thing happened to us as well. You may have a very limited frame of reference based on your own practices, but parents see a broader sample of teachers.

Sorry. Didn't happen. I've taught K-12, Special Ed, ED, Reading, mentored grad students, taught grad school and community college remedial programs. My scope is actually thousands of students and practitioners over 40 years. Never, never, never would that happen- even with a really bad and immature teacher who is also stoned and/ or drunk, perhaps. Yeah, I've seen that, too.
OP picked something up incorrectly, internalized it, ran with it, and paraphrased her inner thoughts her as if the teacher said something and wrote it on an anonymous forum. The teacher did not say that. Yes, I am sure.

I had a teacher do the exact same thing to me so yeah you're just going to have to believe it.

[Anonymous]

I had a school counselor say the same thing to me about my daughter. It was jaw droppingly inappropriate. Add to it, that my daughter was standing 15 ft away waiting for me because she approached me with this info in the car pick up line at school. I seriously had my window rolled down as she said this to me.
But to clarify, not a public school, a small private school for dyslexic children. My daughter has anxiety but this is still one of the most inappropriate things I have encountered in a school setting, but it does happen. Obviously the school counselor ( that maybe has a masters degree) lost all credibility with this action.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:you do rewlize the health forms are on file in the clinic? Teachers can check


PP retired school nurse and this isn't and should not be easily accessible information; it's confidential, protected health information and not accessible for teachers. I had no access to individual student records. Make sense?

I'm a teacher. We all have access to the file room where the records are kept. We're expected to file the forms ourselves. It was jarring at first because the registration documents are in the same file. Identity theft waiting to happen.

Yep. Teachers look over the health forms of their entire clsss before submitting them. They know whose on meds and who has allergies.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:you do rewlize the health forms are on file in the clinic? Teachers can check


PP retired school nurse and this isn't and should not be easily accessible information; it's confidential, protected health information and not accessible for teachers. I had no access to individual student records. Make sense?

I'm a teacher. We all have access to the file room where the records are kept. We're expected to file the forms ourselves. It was jarring at first because the registration documents are in the same file. Identity theft waiting to happen.

That’s correct. Teachers at any point can access any of the student files.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:you do rewlize the health forms are on file in the clinic? Teachers can check


PP retired school nurse and this isn't and should not be easily accessible information; it's confidential, protected health information and not accessible for teachers. I had no access to individual student records. Make sense?

I'm a teacher. We all have access to the file room where the records are kept. We're expected to file the forms ourselves. It was jarring at first because the registration documents are in the same file. Identity theft waiting to happen.

In DC the forms are collected by the front office and kept there. I seriously doubt the teachers look at them. If there's a medication management plan, 504, or IEP that they need to know about, sure.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Totally didn’t happen. Teacher’s don’t suggest medication. They might gently suggest evaluations and discussions with your pediatrician. But certainly not on the first day of school.

While my story didn't happen on the first day of school, I have sat through an IEP meeting in room full of therapists, teachers, a social worker, a case manager, and principal and had the principal tell me during the meeting that he didn't think that my child would be an academic success without medication. Everyone heard it. I caught at least one teacher nodding her head in agreement. I told that them we will take some time to address some issues and see where we stand during the end of the year meeting. He had to apologize to me at the end of the year meeting. He was wrong and everyone in that room knew he was wrong for saying what he said and because my child had made more progress than they thought he ever would.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Teacher 35+ years public and private.

This would never, I mean never, happen. I'm calling OP out- this is not real. Even if someone thought that ( erroneously) they would not be allowed to say it, and certainly would not be inclined to do so after 6 hours. How stupid do you think respondents are here?

Try again and ask what you really want to know.

That's nice, but basically the exact thing happened to us as well. You may have a very limited frame of reference based on your own practices, but parents see a broader sample of teachers.

Sorry. Didn't happen. I've taught K-12, Special Ed, ED, Reading, mentored grad students, taught grad school and community college remedial programs. My scope is actually thousands of students and practitioners over 40 years. Never, never, never would that happen- even with a really bad and immature teacher who is also stoned and/ or drunk, perhaps. Yeah, I've seen that, too.
OP picked something up incorrectly, internalized it, ran with it, and paraphrased her inner thoughts her as if the teacher said something and wrote it on an anonymous forum. The teacher did not say that. Yes, I am sure.

This absurd. Some teachers physically and sexually assault students (rarely.) why is it so hard for you to believe that rarely a teacher gets over his or her skis like this?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Teacher 35+ years public and private.

This would never, I mean never, happen. I'm calling OP out- this is not real. Even if someone thought that ( erroneously) they would not be allowed to say it, and certainly would not be inclined to do so after 6 hours. How stupid do you think respondents are here?

Try again and ask what you really want to know.

That's nice, but basically the exact thing happened to us as well. You may have a very limited frame of reference based on your own practices, but parents see a broader sample of teachers.

Sorry. Didn't happen. I've taught K-12, Special Ed, ED, Reading, mentored grad students, taught grad school and community college remedial programs. My scope is actually thousands of students and practitioners over 40 years. Never, never, never would that happen- even with a really bad and immature teacher who is also stoned and/ or drunk, perhaps. Yeah, I've seen that, too.
OP picked something up incorrectly, internalized it, ran with it, and paraphrased her inner thoughts her as if the teacher said something and wrote it on an anonymous forum. The teacher did not say that. Yes, I am sure.

This absurd. Some teachers physically and sexually assault students (rarely.) why is it so hard for you to believe that rarely a teacher gets over his or her skis like this?

Totally. I bet this PP doesn't believe that kids are ever improperly denied IEPs, or that IEPs are ever not followed ...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Totally didn’t happen. Teacher’s don’t suggest medication. They might gently suggest evaluations and discussions with your pediatrician. But certainly not on the first day of school.

While my story didn't happen on the first day of school, I have sat through an IEP meeting in room full of therapists, teachers, a social worker, a case manager, and principal and had the principal tell me during the meeting that he didn't think that my child would be an academic success without medication. Everyone heard it. I caught at least one teacher nodding her head in agreement. I told that them we will take some time to address some issues and see where we stand during the end of the year meeting. He had to apologize to me at the end of the year meeting. He was wrong and everyone in that room knew he was wrong for saying what he said and because my child had made more progress than they thought he ever would.

There is a real difference between your experience and what the OP claims happened. The Principal mentioned a course of action during an IEP meeting where there was a diagnosed issue. You disagreed with the Principal about that particular course of action, took a different path, and things worked out well for your child.

The OP is claiming that a Teacher called on the first day of class and told her, over the phone, that her kid needed to be medicated.

I don't know if you were offended that the Principal mentioned medication as part of the solution or if you disagreed with that course of action. I would think that an IEP meeting to discuss ADHD might very well include a conversation about the use of medication. It would be appropriate in that context because it is one common path taken by families.

I have been in the room during an IEP meeting when a teacher told my parents that I could never graduate from high school so I know that teachers sometimes say stupid stuff. That was 39 years ago so I would hope things have improved, and the people I know who are teaching would never make such a statement. I am aware that there is room for idiots in all fields and so that it is possible that a teacher would make an inappropriate comment or suggestion.

I still don't buy that a teacher called home on the first day of school and told a parent to medicate their child.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Totally didn’t happen. Teacher’s don’t suggest medication. They might gently suggest evaluations and discussions with your pediatrician. But certainly not on the first day of school.

While my story didn't happen on the first day of school, I have sat through an IEP meeting in room full of therapists, teachers, a social worker, a case manager, and principal and had the principal tell me during the meeting that he didn't think that my child would be an academic success without medication. Everyone heard it. I caught at least one teacher nodding her head in agreement. I told that them we will take some time to address some issues and see where we stand during the end of the year meeting. He had to apologize to me at the end of the year meeting. He was wrong and everyone in that room knew he was wrong for saying what he said and because my child had made more progress than they thought he ever would.

There is a real difference between your experience and what the OP claims happened. The Principal mentioned a course of action during an IEP meeting where there was a diagnosed issue. You disagreed with the Principal about that particular course of action, took a different path, and things worked out well for your child.

The OP is claiming that a Teacher called on the first day of class and told her, over the phone, that her kid needed to be medicated.

I don't know if you were offended that the Principal mentioned medication as part of the solution or if you disagreed with that course of action. I would think that an IEP meeting to discuss ADHD might very well include a conversation about the use of medication. It would be appropriate in that context because it is one common path taken by families.

I have been in the room during an IEP meeting when a teacher told my parents that I could never graduate from high school so I know that teachers sometimes say stupid stuff. That was 39 years ago so I would hope things have improved, and the people I know who are teaching would never make such a statement. I am aware that there is room for idiots in all fields and so that it is possible that a teacher would make an inappropriate comment or suggestion.

I still don't buy that a teacher called home on the first day of school and told a parent to medicate their child.

Totally disagree on medication being an appropriate topic for discussion at an IEP meeting, except for to establish if the child is on medication. The decision to medicate or not is completely none of the school's business, and certainly it's wayyyy out of the principal's area of competence. The principal shouldn't have said that, yet he did. In every organization, there are people who are clueless of the rules or don't believe the rules apply to them, or believe they know best.