*Lord of the Flies* is the 9th grade reading for Wilson. sigh.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Gotcha, thanks for the thorough explanation PP. I am not necessarily bothered by the OOB students, I am bothered that students who cannot keep up and who are not prepared are sitting in an AP class when they should not be. If an OOB or in-bound student can handle the work load, awesome, then allow them to enroll in the course, but if not, common sense says to put them in the regular class.

Some APs are far harder than others, and a couple are pretty easy. And some require a pre-requisite (AP Calc).

Doesn’t matter. There should be academic requirements to be in an AP class with similar performing peer groups. Of course with math you need to do some pre-requisite courses, that’s a given.

Just drop the AP then if it’s open to all. Or make it AP for all, just like honors for all. What a joke.

I’m not sure it would even be called AP if there are t any stringent requirements for the course. AP means advanced placement, rather the class should be all academic government (since perhaps some of the work will be challenging), academic statistics, academic biology.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Gotcha, thanks for the thorough explanation PP. I am not necessarily bothered by the OOB students, I am bothered that students who cannot keep up and who are not prepared are sitting in an AP class when they should not be. If an OOB or in-bound student can handle the work load, awesome, then allow them to enroll in the course, but if not, common sense says to put them in the regular class.

Some APs are far harder than others, and a couple are pretty easy. And some require a pre-requisite (AP Calc).

Doesn’t matter. There should be academic requirements to be in an AP class with similar performing peer groups. Of course with math you need to do some pre-requisite courses, that’s a given.

Just drop the AP then if it’s open to all. Or make it AP for all, just like honors for all. What a joke.

I’m not sure it would even be called AP if there are t any stringent requirements for the course. AP means advanced placement, rather the class should be all academic government (since perhaps some of the work will be challenging), academic statistics, academic biology.

I thought that at Wilson AP classes were open to everyone, no?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Gotcha, thanks for the thorough explanation PP. I am not necessarily bothered by the OOB students, I am bothered that students who cannot keep up and who are not prepared are sitting in an AP class when they should not be. If an OOB or in-bound student can handle the work load, awesome, then allow them to enroll in the course, but if not, common sense says to put them in the regular class.

Some APs are far harder than others, and a couple are pretty easy. And some require a pre-requisite (AP Calc).

Doesn’t matter. There should be academic requirements to be in an AP class with similar performing peer groups. Of course with math you need to do some pre-requisite courses, that’s a given.

Just drop the AP then if it’s open to all. Or make it AP for all, just like honors for all. What a joke.

I’m not sure it would even be called AP if there are t any stringent requirements for the course. AP means advanced placement, rather the class should be all academic government (since perhaps some of the work will be challenging), academic statistics, academic biology.

I thought that at Wilson AP classes were open to everyone, no?

Most are. But they won't let you register for calculus if you've only taken Alg 1, for example (Alg 1 is on level for DCPS in 9th).

[Anonymous]

Oh nos, your advanced children will suffer.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Oh nos, your advanced children will suffer.

Yes, it is a problem. It is a problem for students of any profile not to get the education they need.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Gotcha, thanks for the thorough explanation PP. I am not necessarily bothered by the OOB students, I am bothered that students who cannot keep up and who are not prepared are sitting in an AP class when they should not be. If an OOB or in-bound student can handle the work load, awesome, then allow them to enroll in the course, but if not, common sense says to put them in the regular class.

Some APs are far harder than others, and a couple are pretty easy. And some require a pre-requisite (AP Calc).

Doesn’t matter. There should be academic requirements to be in an AP class with similar performing peer groups. Of course with math you need to do some pre-requisite courses, that’s a given.

Just drop the AP then if it’s open to all. Or make it AP for all, just like honors for all. What a joke.

Whether a course is designated as AP depends on the material being covered, which the College Board reviews. The CB says nothing about who can enroll.

I know that at Ellington, for at least some APs, you need to be approved to take the class, agree to some summer work. A student can appeal, and will usually get in if there's room in the class. The required summer work does seem to scare some kids off.

[Anonymous]

What school is teaching LOTF in 6th grade? That teacher would get the side-eye from me.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What school is teaching LOTF in 6th grade? That teacher would get the side-eye from me.

Schools with small class sizes, no disciplinary problems, children who are academically one or two grade levels ahead of where they should be, and parents who work with their children or hire a tutor. Yes, there are pubic and privates where this exist in the DMV.

[Anonymous]

If schools went by the curriculum outlined, students wouldn’t repeat a novel. It clearly states that LOTF is a 9th grade read. It shouldn’t have been assigned in middle school. DC has curriculum issues, but the novels are clearly outlined. They had a milllion others books to choose from.

Regardless, a reread won’t hurt. Your child has grown and matured a great deal over the past two years. Perspectives change.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What school is teaching LOTF in 6th grade? That teacher would get the side-eye from me.

They are “teaching” it beyond plot emphasis. How many 6th graders can adequately get into the complexities of that text?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Gotcha, thanks for the thorough explanation PP. I am not necessarily bothered by the OOB students, I am bothered that students who cannot keep up and who are not prepared are sitting in an AP class when they should not be. If an OOB or in-bound student can handle the work load, awesome, then allow them to enroll in the course, but if not, common sense says to put them in the regular class.

Some APs are far harder than others, and a couple are pretty easy. And some require a pre-requisite (AP Calc).

Doesn’t matter. There should be academic requirements to be in an AP class with similar performing peer groups. Of course with math you need to do some pre-requisite courses, that’s a given.

Just drop the AP then if it’s open to all. Or make it AP for all, just like honors for all. What a joke.

Whether a course is designated as AP depends on the material being covered, which the College Board reviews. The CB says nothing about who can enroll.

I know that at Ellington, for at least some APs, you need to be approved to take the class, agree to some summer work. A student can appeal, and will usually get in if there's room in the class. The required summer work does seem to scare some kids off.

AP is for all (per CB regulations) so if a student appeals, they will should get in. You can not deny access, even if the students’ academic progress is weak.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What school is teaching LOTF in 6th grade? That teacher would get the side-eye from me.

They are “teaching” it beyond plot emphasis. How many 6th graders can adequately get into the complexities of that text?

Typo...they AREN’T teaching it beyond plot emohasis...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It crazy to me that people don’t understand teaching a book in 7th is vastly different than teaching thatvsame book on HS.

Jeff we need a head in palm emoji!

Imagine rereading a book when older and the perspective you may gain. Every child should be required to do that.

Especially after having lived through Lord of the Flies in DCPS MS.

Yes!

[Anonymous]

Are we talking about summer reading?

As a teacher, I can tell you that summer reading needs to be at a significantly lower level than school year reading for the same text. School year reading should be, for most kids, something that pushes their skills a little or a lot. It should be something where a kid needs some structure from the teacher to understand. Summer reading should be a few levels down from that, something at kids' independent reading level, similar to what they'd read for pleasure. It should be something that most of the kids can get a lot of meaning from 100% on their own, that is used to keep up the habit of reading, and to serve as the basis of conversations and activities that build momentum at the very start of the year while the teacher builds the expectations, structures and routines that will help them tackle more challenging work.

I get that it's a little frustrating that a kid has already read the book, but standardizing reading lists bring up a different set of issues. If we want teachers to able to look at their class and choose titles that resonate then we can't also be upset that two teachers in different schools chose the same title. What I don't get is being upset that the summer reading before 9th grade includes a text that in on a middle school level.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Are we talking about summer reading?

As a teacher, I can tell you that summer reading needs to be at a significantly lower level than school year reading for the same text. School year reading should be, for most kids, something that pushes their skills a little or a lot. It should be something where a kid needs some structure from the teacher to understand. Summer reading should be a few levels down from that, something at kids' independent reading level, similar to what they'd read for pleasure. It should be something that most of the kids can get a lot of meaning from 100% on their own, that is used to keep up the habit of reading, and to serve as the basis of conversations and activities that build momentum at the very start of the year while the teacher builds the expectations, structures and routines that will help them tackle more challenging work.

I get that it's a little frustrating that a kid has already read the book, but standardizing reading lists bring up a different set of issues. If we want teachers to able to look at their class and choose titles that resonate then we can't also be upset that two teachers in different schools chose the same title. What I don't get is being upset that the summer reading before 9th grade includes a text that in on a middle school level.

That’s because you don’t understand the underlying real reason. It’s obvious that it was not a DCPS middle school that required it. But it was a school that obviously had higher standards for its students and likely had a much higher performing student body overall.

OP is facing the new reality of what to expect in DCPS and we all know it’s low standards and expectations.