Do colleges care about NHS?

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Anonymous wrote:In some HSs, the prerequisite for invitation also is pretty high.

I have seen GPA ranging from 3.5- 3.7, and service hours from 20 hours to 60 hours in the NHS chapters of different HSs. In my kid's HS, they only want service hours earned in the HS years and not in middle school as a prerequisite. My DC has 300 service hours earned in MS, and while HS graduation requirement has been met, the NHS invite requirement has not been met because all of the service hours were earned during MS.

It definitely seems like each school sets their own standard. Out of a graduating class of 550 at our HS, I think about 20-25 kids were inducted last year. They make the bar so high and create so many hoops to jump through (multiple essays, leadership requirements, etc. on top of perfect grades) that a tiny fraction of the seniors get in. No wonder the kids at our HS are so stressed out and competitive all of the time. Another school across the county had over 100 kids inducted the same year. Very frustrating and I have to assume that colleges know that schools make their own standards, at least I hope they do.

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Anonymous wrote:This thread just goes to show how gross and snobby the DCUM community is.

The NHS is a great thing to have on your resume. Is it exceptional? No. But it is still something that will make a kid look well rounded. I would actually question the absence of it if a kid is academically strong and has little or no service on his/her resume. Was the kid too lazy to apply? Did he/she apply and not get in? Like I said earlier, it cannot hurt to have it on your resume, and many schools are looking for kids who like to do service. This in and of itself demonstrates that along with academic success. It puts him/her in a category that is acceptable and could get him/her in the right pile during admissions.

Will the NHS help your kid get into Harvard or any top 20? No. But it serves a purpose and should not be dismissed.

You can deny people trying to help if you want. The question asked was "Do colleges care about NHS?" and the answer is a resounding "NO". No one said it would "hurt" -- just that if you don't have it but have more distinctive awards and spend your time on something that makes you stand out, that is better.

If you questioned the absence of it on an application that was full of other substantial accomplishments, awards and activities, you'd be a bad admissions officer.

Again, this is EXACTLY the kind of thinking that results in adults being mystified when kids they think are "perfect" don't get into top 20 schools.

I am the pp here. My ordinary high stats kid joined nhs and admitted to two T20s. FWIW

Congrats. But I assure you it wasn't because of NHS membership.

Anecdotes are not data. But to balance yours, my kid was admitted to an ivy without NHS. Before he decided not to join we did research and listened to people more experienced, and they were right. He spent his time doing other things that he enjoyed more and he believes made him more interesting.

According to Naviance, 19 other kids from his HS were denied by that college. They were probably all NHS.

FWIW.

Another helicopter parent offering an anecdote that proves nothing.

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Anonymous wrote:If her kid really wants to know if colleges care she would take the initiative to ask her guidance counselor. This is not kid driven, it’s helicopter mother driven.

This is the perfect example of a situation where the mother should back off.

So you never provide your kid with any input or advice regarding something they haven't yet asked you about?

Not about something like this. No.

Wait, so if you kid asks what you think, what would you do? Would you give him a thoughtful response, or would you just say, "figure it out yourself."

Honestly, when our kids got invited they just joined without even discussing it with us. That's what smart and independent kids without helicopter, college-obsessed parents do. They make decisions of only marginal importance on their own every day.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This thread just goes to show how gross and snobby the DCUM community is.

The NHS is a great thing to have on your resume. Is it exceptional? No. But it is still something that will make a kid look well rounded. I would actually question the absence of it if a kid is academically strong and has little or no service on his/her resume. Was the kid too lazy to apply? Did he/she apply and not get in? Like I said earlier, it cannot hurt to have it on your resume, and many schools are looking for kids who like to do service. This in and of itself demonstrates that along with academic success. It puts him/her in a category that is acceptable and could get him/her in the right pile during admissions.

Will the NHS help your kid get into Harvard or any top 20? No. But it serves a purpose and should not be dismissed.

You can deny people trying to help if you want. The question asked was "Do colleges care about NHS?" and the answer is a resounding "NO". No one said it would "hurt" -- just that if you don't have it but have more distinctive awards and spend your time on something that makes you stand out, that is better.

If you questioned the absence of it on an application that was full of other substantial accomplishments, awards and activities, you'd be a bad admissions officer.

Again, this is EXACTLY the kind of thinking that results in adults being mystified when kids they think are "perfect" don't get into top 20 schools.

I am the pp here. My ordinary high stats kid joined nhs and admitted to two T20s. FWIW

Congrats. But I assure you it wasn't because of NHS membership.

Anecdotes are not data. But to balance yours, my kid was admitted to an ivy without NHS. Before he decided not to join we did research and listened to people more experienced, and they were right. He spent his time doing other things that he enjoyed more and he believes made him more interesting.

According to Naviance, 19 other kids from his HS were denied by that college. They were probably all NHS.

FWIW.

Another helicopter parent offering an anecdote that proves nothing.

God, you are stupid.

The post says "Anecdotes are not data" right in it. It was only offered to show that the previous anecdote meant nothing.

And yes I helped my kid learn about the crazy process so he didn't waste his time doing stuff he wasn't interested in. Because he asked me to. My help consisted of googling and reading, mostly on college confidential. Guess what, it worked.

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Anonymous wrote:What do you mean “we” are trying to decide? This should be left entirely up to your daughter and you need to stay out of it.

Oh please go away. Let the mom help her kid. You anti-helicopter parents are a$$holes.

It's just the anti-helicopter helicopter lady swooping in wherever she can save the day. Just ignore her PP.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This thread just goes to show how gross and snobby the DCUM community is.

The NHS is a great thing to have on your resume. Is it exceptional? No. But it is still something that will make a kid look well rounded. I would actually question the absence of it if a kid is academically strong and has little or no service on his/her resume. Was the kid too lazy to apply? Did he/she apply and not get in? Like I said earlier, it cannot hurt to have it on your resume, and many schools are looking for kids who like to do service. This in and of itself demonstrates that along with academic success. It puts him/her in a category that is acceptable and could get him/her in the right pile during admissions.

Will the NHS help your kid get into Harvard or any top 20? No. But it serves a purpose and should not be dismissed.

You can deny people trying to help if you want. The question asked was "Do colleges care about NHS?" and the answer is a resounding "NO". No one said it would "hurt" -- just that if you don't have it but have more distinctive awards and spend your time on something that makes you stand out, that is better.

If you questioned the absence of it on an application that was full of other substantial accomplishments, awards and activities, you'd be a bad admissions officer.

Again, this is EXACTLY the kind of thinking that results in adults being mystified when kids they think are "perfect" don't get into top 20 schools.

I am the pp here. My ordinary high stats kid joined nhs and admitted to two T20s. FWIW

Congrats. But I assure you it wasn't because of NHS membership.

Anecdotes are not data. But to balance yours, my kid was admitted to an ivy without NHS. Before he decided not to join we did research and listened to people more experienced, and they were right. He spent his time doing other things that he enjoyed more and he believes made him more interesting.

According to Naviance, 19 other kids from his HS were denied by that college. They were probably all NHS.

FWIW.

Like I said, it serves a purpose and should not be dismissed. Your kid chose to dismiss and got lucky at the same time because we all know that admission to any ivy is a crapshoot. My kid did not want an ivy, but if he applied, he just might have gotten in -- even with his NHS box checked.

You are exactly what I was talking about when I said how gross the DCUM community is. Just horrible.

People, don't listen to this snob!! Let you kid do what he or she thinks they will enjoy during their four years in high school. If that is NHS, then so be it. I know a kid who got into Princeton and another into Yale in my son's high school class. Both were heavily involved in our NHS. At our school, the NHS makes a significant difference in the lives of the underserved. Yes, it is a little more stuff on your student's plate, but if they can pull it off, it cannot hurt. Mine spent about 5-10 hours a semester on this activity.

I can only wonder what kind of "significant difference in the lives of the underserved" your kid made in 5-10 hours a semester, lol.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This thread just goes to show how gross and snobby the DCUM community is.

The NHS is a great thing to have on your resume. Is it exceptional? No. But it is still something that will make a kid look well rounded. I would actually question the absence of it if a kid is academically strong and has little or no service on his/her resume. Was the kid too lazy to apply? Did he/she apply and not get in? Like I said earlier, it cannot hurt to have it on your resume, and many schools are looking for kids who like to do service. This in and of itself demonstrates that along with academic success. It puts him/her in a category that is acceptable and could get him/her in the right pile during admissions.

Will the NHS help your kid get into Harvard or any top 20? No. But it serves a purpose and should not be dismissed.

You can deny people trying to help if you want. The question asked was "Do colleges care about NHS?" and the answer is a resounding "NO". No one said it would "hurt" -- just that if you don't have it but have more distinctive awards and spend your time on something that makes you stand out, that is better.

If you questioned the absence of it on an application that was full of other substantial accomplishments, awards and activities, you'd be a bad admissions officer.

Again, this is EXACTLY the kind of thinking that results in adults being mystified when kids they think are "perfect" don't get into top 20 schools.

I am the pp here. My ordinary high stats kid joined nhs and admitted to two T20s. FWIW

Congrats. But I assure you it wasn't because of NHS membership.

Anecdotes are not data. But to balance yours, my kid was admitted to an ivy without NHS. Before he decided not to join we did research and listened to people more experienced, and they were right. He spent his time doing other things that he enjoyed more and he believes made him more interesting.

According to Naviance, 19 other kids from his HS were denied by that college. They were probably all NHS.

FWIW.

Another helicopter parent offering an anecdote that proves nothing.

God, you are stupid.

The post says "Anecdotes are not data" right in it. It was only offered to show that the previous anecdote meant nothing.

And yes I helped my kid learn about the crazy process so he didn't waste his time doing stuff he wasn't interested in. Because he asked me to. My help consisted of googling and reading, mostly on college confidential. Guess what, it worked.

You seem bitter for some strange reason. You must be just like that mom in the video who brags about her Stanford son, but then we find out, he actually treats her like shit. Sad.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If her kid really wants to know if colleges care she would take the initiative to ask her guidance counselor. This is not kid driven, it’s helicopter mother driven.

This is the perfect example of a situation where the mother should back off.

So you never provide your kid with any input or advice regarding something they haven't yet asked you about?

Not about something like this. No.

Wait, so if you kid asks what you think, what would you do? Would you give him a thoughtful response, or would you just say, "figure it out yourself."

Honestly, when our kids got invited they just joined without even discussing it with us. That's what smart and independent kids without helicopter, college-obsessed parents do. They make decisions of only marginal importance on their own every day.

So your kids decided to join a club with only marginal importance? Doesn't sound very smart. Smart kids would actually weigh the pros and cons, realize NHS means absolutely nothing and not waste their time joining.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If her kid really wants to know if colleges care she would take the initiative to ask her guidance counselor. This is not kid driven, it’s helicopter mother driven.

This is the perfect example of a situation where the mother should back off.

So you never provide your kid with any input or advice regarding something they haven't yet asked you about?

Not about something like this. No.

Wait, so if you kid asks what you think, what would you do? Would you give him a thoughtful response, or would you just say, "figure it out yourself."

Honestly, when our kids got invited they just joined without even discussing it with us. That's what smart and independent kids without helicopter, college-obsessed parents do. They make decisions of only marginal importance on their own every day.

So your kids decided to join a club with only marginal importance? Doesn't sound very smart. Smart kids would actually weigh the pros and cons, realize NHS means absolutely nothing and not waste their time joining.

You again. Go back to your hole.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If her kid really wants to know if colleges care she would take the initiative to ask her guidance counselor. This is not kid driven, it’s helicopter mother driven.

This is the perfect example of a situation where the mother should back off.

So you never provide your kid with any input or advice regarding something they haven't yet asked you about?

Not about something like this. No.

Wait, so if you kid asks what you think, what would you do? Would you give him a thoughtful response, or would you just say, "figure it out yourself."

Honestly, when our kids got invited they just joined without even discussing it with us. That's what smart and independent kids without helicopter, college-obsessed parents do. They make decisions of only marginal importance on their own every day.

So your kids decided to join a club with only marginal importance? Doesn't sound very smart. Smart kids would actually weigh the pros and cons, realize NHS means absolutely nothing and not waste their time joining.

My son's NHS classmate is going to Yale. He's pretty smart.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This thread just goes to show how gross and snobby the DCUM community is.

The NHS is a great thing to have on your resume. Is it exceptional? No. But it is still something that will make a kid look well rounded. I would actually question the absence of it if a kid is academically strong and has little or no service on his/her resume. Was the kid too lazy to apply? Did he/she apply and not get in? Like I said earlier, it cannot hurt to have it on your resume, and many schools are looking for kids who like to do service. This in and of itself demonstrates that along with academic success. It puts him/her in a category that is acceptable and could get him/her in the right pile during admissions.

Will the NHS help your kid get into Harvard or any top 20? No. But it serves a purpose and should not be dismissed.

You can deny people trying to help if you want. The question asked was "Do colleges care about NHS?" and the answer is a resounding "NO". No one said it would "hurt" -- just that if you don't have it but have more distinctive awards and spend your time on something that makes you stand out, that is better.

If you questioned the absence of it on an application that was full of other substantial accomplishments, awards and activities, you'd be a bad admissions officer.

Again, this is EXACTLY the kind of thinking that results in adults being mystified when kids they think are "perfect" don't get into top 20 schools.

I am the pp here. My ordinary high stats kid joined nhs and admitted to two T20s. FWIW

Congrats. But I assure you it wasn't because of NHS membership.

Anecdotes are not data. But to balance yours, my kid was admitted to an ivy without NHS. Before he decided not to join we did research and listened to people more experienced, and they were right. He spent his time doing other things that he enjoyed more and he believes made him more interesting.

According to Naviance, 19 other kids from his HS were denied by that college. They were probably all NHS.

FWIW.

Another helicopter parent offering an anecdote that proves nothing.

God, you are stupid.

The post says "Anecdotes are not data" right in it. It was only offered to show that the previous anecdote meant nothing.

And yes I helped my kid learn about the crazy process so he didn't waste his time doing stuff he wasn't interested in. Because he asked me to. My help consisted of googling and reading, mostly on college confidential. Guess what, it worked.

You seem bitter for some strange reason. You must be just like that mom in the video who brags about her Stanford son, but then we find out, he actually treats her like shit. Sad.

DP. You actually sound bitter, as if you are jealous that some kids value their parents' input and actually seek it out, so you resort to the anti helicopter parent routine. Honestly, just let other people parent their kids. I think it's great that you don't hover over your kids, but I also think it's great that other parents guide their kids. Whatever works for each family.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This thread just goes to show how gross and snobby the DCUM community is.

The NHS is a great thing to have on your resume. Is it exceptional? No. But it is still something that will make a kid look well rounded. I would actually question the absence of it if a kid is academically strong and has little or no service on his/her resume. Was the kid too lazy to apply? Did he/she apply and not get in? Like I said earlier, it cannot hurt to have it on your resume, and many schools are looking for kids who like to do service. This in and of itself demonstrates that along with academic success. It puts him/her in a category that is acceptable and could get him/her in the right pile during admissions.

Will the NHS help your kid get into Harvard or any top 20? No. But it serves a purpose and should not be dismissed.

You can deny people trying to help if you want. The question asked was "Do colleges care about NHS?" and the answer is a resounding "NO". No one said it would "hurt" -- just that if you don't have it but have more distinctive awards and spend your time on something that makes you stand out, that is better.

If you questioned the absence of it on an application that was full of other substantial accomplishments, awards and activities, you'd be a bad admissions officer.

Again, this is EXACTLY the kind of thinking that results in adults being mystified when kids they think are "perfect" don't get into top 20 schools.

I am the pp here. My ordinary high stats kid joined nhs and admitted to two T20s. FWIW

Congrats. But I assure you it wasn't because of NHS membership.

Anecdotes are not data. But to balance yours, my kid was admitted to an ivy without NHS. Before he decided not to join we did research and listened to people more experienced, and they were right. He spent his time doing other things that he enjoyed more and he believes made him more interesting.

According to Naviance, 19 other kids from his HS were denied by that college. They were probably all NHS.

FWIW.

Another helicopter parent offering an anecdote that proves nothing.

God, you are stupid.

The post says "Anecdotes are not data" right in it. It was only offered to show that the previous anecdote meant nothing.

And yes I helped my kid learn about the crazy process so he didn't waste his time doing stuff he wasn't interested in. Because he asked me to. My help consisted of googling and reading, mostly on college confidential. Guess what, it worked.

You seem bitter for some strange reason. You must be just like that mom in the video who brags about her Stanford son, but then we find out, he actually treats her like shit. Sad.

DP. You actually sound bitter, as if you are jealous that some kids value their parents' input and actually seek it out, so you resort to the anti helicopter parent routine. Honestly, just let other people parent their kids. I think it's great that you don't hover over your kids, but I also think it's great that other parents guide their kids. Whatever works for each family.

Where did you get the idea that I don't hover? I hover plenty lol...so does my husband. DS is going to a top 20 in the fall mainly on his own merits, but also because of our encouragement. I am not criticizing your helicopter tendencies. I am criticizing your tone. Glad your strategy worked, but I imagine your son will probably resent it if he doesn't already.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This thread just goes to show how gross and snobby the DCUM community is.

The NHS is a great thing to have on your resume. Is it exceptional? No. But it is still something that will make a kid look well rounded. I would actually question the absence of it if a kid is academically strong and has little or no service on his/her resume. Was the kid too lazy to apply? Did he/she apply and not get in? Like I said earlier, it cannot hurt to have it on your resume, and many schools are looking for kids who like to do service. This in and of itself demonstrates that along with academic success. It puts him/her in a category that is acceptable and could get him/her in the right pile during admissions.

Will the NHS help your kid get into Harvard or any top 20? No. But it serves a purpose and should not be dismissed.

You can deny people trying to help if you want. The question asked was "Do colleges care about NHS?" and the answer is a resounding "NO". No one said it would "hurt" -- just that if you don't have it but have more distinctive awards and spend your time on something that makes you stand out, that is better.

If you questioned the absence of it on an application that was full of other substantial accomplishments, awards and activities, you'd be a bad admissions officer.

Again, this is EXACTLY the kind of thinking that results in adults being mystified when kids they think are "perfect" don't get into top 20 schools.

I am the pp here. My ordinary high stats kid joined nhs and admitted to two T20s. FWIW

Congrats. But I assure you it wasn't because of NHS membership.

Anecdotes are not data. But to balance yours, my kid was admitted to an ivy without NHS. Before he decided not to join we did research and listened to people more experienced, and they were right. He spent his time doing other things that he enjoyed more and he believes made him more interesting.

According to Naviance, 19 other kids from his HS were denied by that college. They were probably all NHS.

FWIW.

Another helicopter parent offering an anecdote that proves nothing.

God, you are stupid.

The post says "Anecdotes are not data" right in it. It was only offered to show that the previous anecdote meant nothing.

And yes I helped my kid learn about the crazy process so he didn't waste his time doing stuff he wasn't interested in. Because he asked me to. My help consisted of googling and reading, mostly on college confidential. Guess what, it worked.

You seem bitter for some strange reason. You must be just like that mom in the video who brags about her Stanford son, but then we find out, he actually treats her like shit. Sad.

You still seem stupid. Sadder.

Haven't bragged at all about my kid, or mentioned what college he attends.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This thread just goes to show how gross and snobby the DCUM community is.

The NHS is a great thing to have on your resume. Is it exceptional? No. But it is still something that will make a kid look well rounded. I would actually question the absence of it if a kid is academically strong and has little or no service on his/her resume. Was the kid too lazy to apply? Did he/she apply and not get in? Like I said earlier, it cannot hurt to have it on your resume, and many schools are looking for kids who like to do service. This in and of itself demonstrates that along with academic success. It puts him/her in a category that is acceptable and could get him/her in the right pile during admissions.

Will the NHS help your kid get into Harvard or any top 20? No. But it serves a purpose and should not be dismissed.

You can deny people trying to help if you want. The question asked was "Do colleges care about NHS?" and the answer is a resounding "NO". No one said it would "hurt" -- just that if you don't have it but have more distinctive awards and spend your time on something that makes you stand out, that is better.

If you questioned the absence of it on an application that was full of other substantial accomplishments, awards and activities, you'd be a bad admissions officer.

Again, this is EXACTLY the kind of thinking that results in adults being mystified when kids they think are "perfect" don't get into top 20 schools.

I am the pp here. My ordinary high stats kid joined nhs and admitted to two T20s. FWIW

Congrats. But I assure you it wasn't because of NHS membership.

Anecdotes are not data. But to balance yours, my kid was admitted to an ivy without NHS. Before he decided not to join we did research and listened to people more experienced, and they were right. He spent his time doing other things that he enjoyed more and he believes made him more interesting.

According to Naviance, 19 other kids from his HS were denied by that college. They were probably all NHS.

FWIW.

Another helicopter parent offering an anecdote that proves nothing.

God, you are stupid.

The post says "Anecdotes are not data" right in it. It was only offered to show that the previous anecdote meant nothing.

And yes I helped my kid learn about the crazy process so he didn't waste his time doing stuff he wasn't interested in. Because he asked me to. My help consisted of googling and reading, mostly on college confidential. Guess what, it worked.

You seem bitter for some strange reason. You must be just like that mom in the video who brags about her Stanford son, but then we find out, he actually treats her like shit. Sad.

You still seem stupid. Sadder.

Haven't bragged at all about my kid, or mentioned what college he attends.

See bolded above "my kid was admitted to an ivy." That is bragging...sorry. AND you also brag about him getting in and the others being denied. Not only is that bragging, it is tacky. Take a look in the mirror hun: