The reaction to the SAT “adversity score” element on this board is telling

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I was talking about this with my husband and he just shrugged his shoulders and reminded me that when the time comes, he'll pull every connection he has to get our kids good internships and first jobs. And he has a lot of connections. He does people a lot of favors in order for them to return the favor someday.

At the end of the day, that's what matters most. More even than where you went to college or how you did there.

Unless you don't have a sugar daddy. Then where you went and how you did there matters a whole lot. And that is the case for 95% of students.

What does this mean?

A lot of people get their first jobs through connections (maybe even most?). This can't be news to you.

Yep. My mother knew a Cabinet Secretary who got me into the agency. That compensated for top 60 law school. Fast forward 23 years later and I am the top lawyer at a financial company. I just got my high school kid an internship with a US Senator for who I raised money for so they can go to a top college

You have posted before, I think. You really have a chip on your shoulder about your law school, no?

It doesn't sound like a chip on the shoulder. It sounds like good advice that you can be successful even if you don't go to a top school.

[Anonymous]

If the people with power choose to help you. As diversity increases who gets helped changes.

[Anonymous]

How can you measure individual perception and impact on the human psyche using only external data?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:DC liberals like affirmative action except when that "preferred" canidate takes their position.
Liberal hypocrisy at its finest.

Yup. This.

[Anonymous]

I think it's disingenuous of schools to use the adversity score while also getting rid of the legacy bump. Everyone has an agenda. SATs were created by a racist and has always been biased. Now they want to add more "data" to balance that? Needs a total overhaul, not just an adverse bandaid.

[Anonymous]

Rational thinkers understand that the attempts by selective colleges to socially engineer the perfectly balanced class is a farcical undertaking driven not by a genuine desire for better outcomes or an enhanced student experience, but by the misguided belief that they must hew to a socially progressive agenda. The payoff for all of this wonderful micro-segmentation of diversity is supposed to be a richer experience for students by facilitating interactions and understanding with people different from ourselves. The truth is that you see more segregation on campus today than a decade ago with race specific clubs and housing and greek life and graduation ceremonies. Ironically, the net result of the diversity explosion is a reduction in integration. So yeah, I think it's all a joke and the system is corrupt and rigged and ultimately so capricious that it makes little sense. Thus, the only applicants I care about are my DC.

[Anonymous]

It all existed a decade ago but you were ignorant of its existence. There are simply too many events that you can’t ignore them now but they have been going on since the 70s. Now you are well aware as you are becoming a minority and now are consciously on the outside. The people making decisions are more diverse and younger. They simple don’t share your history or vision of the future.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:DC liberals like affirmative action except when that "preferred" canidate takes their position.
Liberal hypocrisy at its finest.

Yup. This.

Well, yeah. But they don’t really envision a world where they are not at the top.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I was talking about this with my husband and he just shrugged his shoulders and reminded me that when the time comes, he'll pull every connection he has to get our kids good internships and first jobs. And he has a lot of connections. He does people a lot of favors in order for them to return the favor someday.

At the end of the day, that's what matters most. More even than where you went to college or how you did there.

Unless you don't have a sugar daddy. Then where you went and how you did there matters a whole lot. And that is the case for 95% of students.

What does this mean?

A lot of people get their first jobs through connections (maybe even most?). This can't be news to you.

Yep. My mother knew a Cabinet Secretary who got me into the agency. That compensated for top 60 law school. Fast forward 23 years later and I am the top lawyer at a financial company. I just got my high school kid an internship with a US Senator for who I raised money for so they can go to a top college

You have posted before, I think. You really have a chip on your shoulder about your law school, no?

It doesn't sound like a chip on the shoulder. It sounds like good advice that you can be successful even if you don't go to a top school.

It’s good advice to know a Cabinet Secretary to work around a crappy law school?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Rational thinkers understand that the attempts by selective colleges to socially engineer the perfectly balanced class is a farcical undertaking driven not by a genuine desire for better outcomes or an enhanced student experience, but by the misguided belief that they must hew to a socially progressive agenda. The payoff for all of this wonderful micro-segmentation of diversity is supposed to be a richer experience for students by facilitating interactions and understanding with people different from ourselves. The truth is that you see more segregation on campus today than a decade ago with race specific clubs and housing and greek life and graduation ceremonies. Ironically, the net result of the diversity explosion is a reduction in integration. So yeah, I think it's all a joke and the system is corrupt and rigged and ultimately so capricious that it makes little sense. Thus, the only applicants I care about are my DC.

Well said PP. + 10

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I was talking about this with my husband and he just shrugged his shoulders and reminded me that when the time comes, he'll pull every connection he has to get our kids good internships and first jobs. And he has a lot of connections. He does people a lot of favors in order for them to return the favor someday.

At the end of the day, that's what matters most. More even than where you went to college or how you did there.

Unless you don't have a sugar daddy. Then where you went and how you did there matters a whole lot. And that is the case for 95% of students.

What does this mean?

A lot of people get their first jobs through connections (maybe even most?). This can't be news to you.

Yep. My mother knew a Cabinet Secretary who got me into the agency. That compensated for top 60 law school. Fast forward 23 years later and I am the top lawyer at a financial company. I just got my high school kid an internship with a US Senator for who I raised money for so they can go to a top college

Ugh! Sure that taught your kid a lot about going after what he/she wants.

My husband and I were just discussing this today re: one of ours who's in college. Has everything going for him and has worked full-time in the summers since he was 15. This summer he wanted an internship, but because he doesn't really know what he wants to do, he only made a half-hearted attempt and came up empty-handed. We offered some suggestions but when friends offered to give him jobs, we said no. A little help is one thing, but I think parents can sometimes do their kids a disservice if they help too much.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I was talking about this with my husband and he just shrugged his shoulders and reminded me that when the time comes, he'll pull every connection he has to get our kids good internships and first jobs. And he has a lot of connections. He does people a lot of favors in order for them to return the favor someday.

At the end of the day, that's what matters most. More even than where you went to college or how you did there.

this is true

Yeah, but not every MC family has lots of connections

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I was talking about this with my husband and he just shrugged his shoulders and reminded me that when the time comes, he'll pull every connection he has to get our kids good internships and first jobs. And he has a lot of connections. He does people a lot of favors in order for them to return the favor someday.

At the end of the day, that's what matters most. More even than where you went to college or how you did there.

Unless you don't have a sugar daddy. Then where you went and how you did there matters a whole lot. And that is the case for 95% of students.

What does this mean?

A lot of people get their first jobs through connections (maybe even most?). This can't be news to you.

None of my kids got their first jobs through connections. None of them. They did well in school, went to college, and then applied for and got jobs.

+1.
I've only gotten one job through a connection, and it was not my first job.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think it's disingenuous of schools to use the adversity score while also getting rid of the legacy bump. Everyone has an agenda. SATs were created by a racist and has always been biased. Now they want to add more "data" to balance that? Needs a total overhaul, not just an adverse bandaid.

What is really a legacy bump if not a from of nepotism? Should not every kid earn their place in life on their own merit? Have seen once this quote 'no matter how tall your grandfather was, you have to do your own growing"

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I was talking about this with my husband and he just shrugged his shoulders and reminded me that when the time comes, he'll pull every connection he has to get our kids good internships and first jobs. And he has a lot of connections. He does people a lot of favors in order for them to return the favor someday.

At the end of the day, that's what matters most. More even than where you went to college or how you did there.

Unless you don't have a sugar daddy. Then where you went and how you did there matters a whole lot. And that is the case for 95% of students.

What does this mean?

A lot of people get their first jobs through connections (maybe even most?). This can't be news to you.

No, most people do not get job through connections.