Get a lawyer for animal abuse ticket?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:85 degrees is hot, even in the shade. Hopefully your folks won't do this again.

With the windows open? For 20 minutes? Would you not take a dog outside in the shade when it’s 85 out?

Honestly, I think some of the reactions here (i.e. agreeing this is animal cruelty) are nuts. We had a dog growing up, and no air conditioning. It definitely got hotter than 85 degrees many days! We were fine, as was the dog, all those years.

I too think the reactions on here are a little nuts. I used to live in Florida in a house with no A/C. It was often over 85 degrees. What was I, cruel to myself?

I just want to be clear. You truly think that being inside an insulated house without air conditioning is the same as being in a metal box outside without air conditioning?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:85 degrees is hot, even in the shade. Hopefully your folks won't do this again.

With the windows open? For 20 minutes? Would you not take a dog outside in the shade when it’s 85 out?

Honestly, I think some of the reactions here (i.e. agreeing this is animal cruelty) are nuts. We had a dog growing up, and no air conditioning. It definitely got hotter than 85 degrees many days! We were fine, as was the dog, all those years.

I too think the reactions on here are a little nuts. I used to live in Florida in a house with no A/C. It was often over 85 degrees. What was I, cruel to myself?

I just want to be clear. You truly think that being inside an insulated house without air conditioning is the same as being in a metal box outside without air conditioning?

I'm sure it wasn't 85 degrees in the shade. The windows were down and it's breezy in the fall. It would be different if it happened in August where there's no breeze and it's humid.

Criminal charges seem pretty extreme.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:85 degrees is hot, even in the shade. Hopefully your folks won't do this again.

With the windows open? For 20 minutes? Would you not take a dog outside in the shade when it’s 85 out?

Honestly, I think some of the reactions here (i.e. agreeing this is animal cruelty) are nuts. We had a dog growing up, and no air conditioning. It definitely got hotter than 85 degrees many days! We were fine, as was the dog, all those years.

I too think the reactions on here are a little nuts. I used to live in Florida in a house with no A/C. It was often over 85 degrees. What was I, cruel to myself?

I just want to be clear. You truly think that being inside an insulated house without air conditioning is the same as being in a metal box outside without air conditioning?

I'm sure it wasn't 85 degrees in the shade. The windows were down and it's breezy in the fall. It would be different if it happened in August where there's no breeze and it's humid.

Criminal charges seem pretty extreme.

First of all, your logic and science are lacking. It is almost always as hot as or hotter in the car then it is outside, shade or no.

You're also making assumptions about the breeze and humidity. I don't know if you've been here for the past couple of weeks, but it has been stiflingly humid and warm.

I doubt you would leave your child in the car under those conditions. A dog who is less able to regulate should also not be left in the car

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Windows down in the shade makes all the difference.

It'll be dismissed outright, or they'll be found not guilty.

I agree. Did the officer have a thermometer on him? Did the officer have them turn on accessories to confirm the indoor temp? Out of curiousity, I tried search for anything on car interior temps under different temps (windows closed in the middle of a vast parking lot on a cloudless but humid day at 85 is a completely different scene than what was described here) but no luck and out of time. And the dog was in the car the entire time the cop was talking to the owners?

OP has said repeatedly that the officer took the dog into his own car with AC blasting for 40 minutes to cool it down before giving it back to OP's parents.

Yeah - and what exactly does she mean by ‘windows down?’ I’m sure that it doesn’t mean that the windows were all the way down - they were probably just cracked open a bit.

Are your parents always this manipulative OP? Do the rules not apply to them?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Windows down in the shade makes all the difference.

It'll be dismissed outright, or they'll be found not guilty.

I agree. Did the officer have a thermometer on him? Did the officer have them turn on accessories to confirm the indoor temp? Out of curiousity, I tried search for anything on car interior temps under different temps (windows closed in the middle of a vast parking lot on a cloudless but humid day at 85 is a completely different scene than what was described here) but no luck and out of time. And the dog was in the car the entire time the cop was talking to the owners?

OP has said repeatedly that the officer took the dog into his own car with AC blasting for 40 minutes to cool it down before giving it back to OP's parents.

Yeah - and what exactly does she mean by ‘windows down?’ I’m sure that it doesn’t mean that the windows were all the way down - they were probably just cracked open a bit.

Are your parents always this manipulative OP? Do the rules not apply to them?

OP did you get a copy of the police report? Call the officer maybe and ask his version?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:85 degrees is hot, even in the shade. Hopefully your folks won't do this again.

With the windows open? For 20 minutes? Would you not take a dog outside in the shade when it’s 85 out?

Honestly, I think some of the reactions here (i.e. agreeing this is animal cruelty) are nuts. We had a dog growing up, and no air conditioning. It definitely got hotter than 85 degrees many days! We were fine, as was the dog, all those years.

I too think the reactions on here are a little nuts. I used to live in Florida in a house with no A/C. It was often over 85 degrees. What was I, cruel to myself?

I just want to be clear. You truly think that being inside an insulated house without air conditioning is the same as being in a metal box outside without air conditioning?

Two things.

One: 85 degrees is 85 degrees whether in a house or in a car.

Two: The house that I lived while in Florida often got over 85 degrees.


I didn't have dog at the time, but if I had, would I have deserved a ticket even though I was living under the same conditions?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:85 degrees is hot, even in the shade. Hopefully your folks won't do this again.

With the windows open? For 20 minutes? Would you not take a dog outside in the shade when it’s 85 out?

Honestly, I think some of the reactions here (i.e. agreeing this is animal cruelty) are nuts. We had a dog growing up, and no air conditioning. It definitely got hotter than 85 degrees many days! We were fine, as was the dog, all those years.

I too think the reactions on here are a little nuts. I used to live in Florida in a house with no A/C. It was often over 85 degrees. What was I, cruel to myself?

I just want to be clear. You truly think that being inside an insulated house without air conditioning is the same as being in a metal box outside without air conditioning?

Two things.

One: 85 degrees is 85 degrees whether in a house or in a car.

Two: The house that I lived while in Florida often got over 85 degrees.


I didn't have dog at the time, but if I had, would I have deserved a ticket even though I was living under the same conditions?

It's not just a ticket. It's a misdemeanor with possible jail time.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:85 degrees is hot, even in the shade. Hopefully your folks won't do this again.

With the windows open? For 20 minutes? Would you not take a dog outside in the shade when it’s 85 out?

Honestly, I think some of the reactions here (i.e. agreeing this is animal cruelty) are nuts. We had a dog growing up, and no air conditioning. It definitely got hotter than 85 degrees many days! We were fine, as was the dog, all those years.

I too think the reactions on here are a little nuts. I used to live in Florida in a house with no A/C. It was often over 85 degrees. What was I, cruel to myself?

I just want to be clear. You truly think that being inside an insulated house without air conditioning is the same as being in a metal box outside without air conditioning?

Two things.

One: 85 degrees is 85 degrees whether in a house or in a car.

Two: The house that I lived while in Florida often got over 85 degrees.


I didn't have dog at the time, but if I had, would I have deserved a ticket even though I was living under the same conditions?

It's not just a ticket. It's a misdemeanor with possible jail time.

OK then, would I have deserved possible jail time even though I was living under the same conditions?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:85 degrees is hot, even in the shade. Hopefully your folks won't do this again.

With the windows open? For 20 minutes? Would you not take a dog outside in the shade when it’s 85 out?

Honestly, I think some of the reactions here (i.e. agreeing this is animal cruelty) are nuts. We had a dog growing up, and no air conditioning. It definitely got hotter than 85 degrees many days! We were fine, as was the dog, all those years.

I too think the reactions on here are a little nuts. I used to live in Florida in a house with no A/C. It was often over 85 degrees. What was I, cruel to myself?

I just want to be clear. You truly think that being inside an insulated house without air conditioning is the same as being in a metal box outside without air conditioning?

Two things.

One: 85 degrees is 85 degrees whether in a house or in a car.

Two: The house that I lived while in Florida often got over 85 degrees.


I didn't have dog at the time, but if I had, would I have deserved a ticket even though I was living under the same conditions?

It's not just a ticket. It's a misdemeanor with possible jail time.

OK then, would I have deserved possible jail time even though I was living under the same conditions?

Is your house uninsulated and the same size as a car?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:85 degrees is hot, even in the shade. Hopefully your folks won't do this again.

With the windows open? For 20 minutes? Would you not take a dog outside in the shade when it’s 85 out?

Honestly, I think some of the reactions here (i.e. agreeing this is animal cruelty) are nuts. We had a dog growing up, and no air conditioning. It definitely got hotter than 85 degrees many days! We were fine, as was the dog, all those years.

I too think the reactions on here are a little nuts. I used to live in Florida in a house with no A/C. It was often over 85 degrees. What was I, cruel to myself?

I just want to be clear. You truly think that being inside an insulated house without air conditioning is the same as being in a metal box outside without air conditioning?

Two things.

One: 85 degrees is 85 degrees whether in a house or in a car.

Two: The house that I lived while in Florida often got over 85 degrees.


I didn't have dog at the time, but if I had, would I have deserved a ticket even though I was living under the same conditions?

It's not just a ticket. It's a misdemeanor with possible jail time.

OK then, would I have deserved possible jail time even though I was living under the same conditions?

Is your house uninsulated and the same size as a car?

What difference would that make?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:No sympathy. Use a drive through or one human goes in to pick up food while the other one stays in the car and then go to a rest area for a picnic. Get a lawyer, but they need to wise up.

This. Dogs have fur. And even with windows down in the shade, it can get very hot for a dog in the car.

Hit the drive through or someone stays in the car with the dog.

No sympathy. Hope they learned their lesson.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:85 degrees is hot, even in the shade. Hopefully your folks won't do this again.

With the windows open? For 20 minutes? Would you not take a dog outside in the shade when it’s 85 out?

Honestly, I think some of the reactions here (i.e. agreeing this is animal cruelty) are nuts. We had a dog growing up, and no air conditioning. It definitely got hotter than 85 degrees many days! We were fine, as was the dog, all those years.

I too think the reactions on here are a little nuts. I used to live in Florida in a house with no A/C. It was often over 85 degrees. What was I, cruel to myself?

I just want to be clear. You truly think that being inside an insulated house without air conditioning is the same as being in a metal box outside without air conditioning?

Two things.

One: 85 degrees is 85 degrees whether in a house or in a car.

Two: The house that I lived while in Florida often got over 85 degrees.


I didn't have dog at the time, but if I had, would I have deserved a ticket even though I was living under the same conditions?

It's not just a ticket. It's a misdemeanor with possible jail time.

They're not going to get jail time. Jesus. EVERY misdemeanor has the possibility of jail time.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No sympathy. Use a drive through or one human goes in to pick up food while the other one stays in the car and then go to a rest area for a picnic. Get a lawyer, but they need to wise up.

This. Dogs have fur. And even with windows down in the shade, it can get very hot for a dog in the car.

Hit the drive through or someone stays in the car with the dog.

No sympathy. Hope they learned their lesson.

I drive every summer with my dog. It’s about 9 hours each way. I pack lunch and snacks but I have no choice but to leave her in the car at rest stops while I go to the bathroom and grab a cup of coffee (after she’s had her walk, peed and had a bowl of water). It’s not 20 mins but it can take 8-10 mins. The car is usually the same temp when I get back in as when I left and the dog is fine. There are some drive through McDonald’s on 95 in CT but not on the NJTP. Not sure what else I can do so I have some sympathy for OPs parents.

[Anonymous]

I don't understand the timeline. You say the dog was alone in the car for 20 minutes, then with your parents and the police officer for 40 minutes. Was the officer just sitting outside the car waiting for your parents while the dog was still in the hot car? If so, how long was he going to sit there and wait for your parents to show up, with the dog sitting in the hot car?

[Anonymous]

I'll bet the parents were gone for a lot longer than 20 minutes.