Liberals don’t get it: Trump supporters never loved America. They ALWAYS believed that some people deserved more rights and privileges than others.
They hated many aspects of the Constituion that guaranteed equal rights. They always hated the American experiment and longed for the days when America was less free. I guarantee you will soon head Trumpers talking about stripping citizenship from certain classes of undesirables and Democratic voting blocks. |
And the GOP had to commit treason and suppress a LOT of votes to barely win. |
I am loathe to put all my eggs in the: -Trump can’t win -the GOP will never win another presidency -we will be kept from a Trump/old white guy president by a wall of brown voters Basket after November 2016. It’s quite foolish to do so. Be the right left or center, the data just isn’t there. For anyone. I was watching the “new” type of exit poll early in the afternoon of the election and they basically had Clinton brutalizing Trump. They were wrong to the extreme. I vowed after she lost to stop putting stock in such things. Nothing is reliable. |
And he’s president and what will change in 2020? |
Electoral college 2016 was 232 to 306. That’s really significant. |
Maybe some are so embarrassed and dug in, that they will outwardly support Trump until they walk into the voters booth -- then quietly not vote for him a 2nd time. |
Some people would cut off a couple of thier fingers with a meat cleaver if they knew liberals hated blood. |
You wish! |
But a party that can't win the popular vote is a party in decline. You can't eke out a bare minimum win using EC in every election. |
Thats BS. Its mathematically useless coz eventually the GOP will find out you can't win the EC by loosing the popular vote all the time. |
Well if Trump has way, nothing since he will allow Putin to interfere in our elections, yet again. |
I hear you, but: The RNC internal polling showed the same. So which seems more likely: both polls being so, so incredibly off that Donald won the swing states he absolutely needed to win by mere fractions just outside the required recount amount or that Putin’s hack was of the vote, too, and not just of voter rolls. It beggars belief that they did all that, had stolen DNC analytics and didn’t just make sure that their candidate won. But you are right that we’re in the twilight zone in which the GOP has gone lock stock and smoking traitor. My idiot GOP representative (whom I did not vote for) voted down the increased election security funding for the states. I’m surprised they managed to scrape up enough traitor GOP Senate go to get a bipartisan vote that McFaul et all wouldn’t be sent to Russia for “questioning.” |
What has already changed is that the GOP has lost share of votes in every single election since 2016. NOT ONE ELECTION IN ANY STATE DID THEIR SHARE INCREASE. This is telling that the party will get thumped in 2018 and in 2020. Women hate Trump. Minorities hate Trump. Putin will finally unload everything he has on trump if sanctions are not removed by 2020. And it won't be pretty. |
We all know CA and NY will vote R. There populations can grow to epic proportions and Dems will get those votes, but the entire electoral map must be conquered.
The popular vote doesn’t win the presidency. Until that changes it’s a non-issue, as much as it means to some people here. Let’s deal with reality, not wishes and whatabout. It’s maddening to argue a point that has no real world ramifications in this context. |
I have not seen any credible information that any votes were cast by Putin or his people or any votes changed. I live in the real world as you should also. We are going to ride a losing horse into tinfoil land. |