2018 U.S. Presidential Scholar Candidates from DC Private Schools

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:MCPS Magnets by my count:

18 Blair
7 Poolesville
5 Richard Montomery

Virginia Magnets:

TJ: 28
Maggie Walker: 9

Blair STEM program is only 1/5 of size of TJ - 18/100 vs 28/500??

[Anonymous]

Am I reading this correctly?
Either you’ve knocked it out of the park on SATs....
or somebody recommends you?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Am I reading this correctly?
Either you’ve knocked it out of the park on SATs....
or somebody recommends you?

No. For the academic Presidential Scholarship candidate status, it's about knocking out of the park on the SATs/ACT. Then there is a lengthy application that requires lots of school support/recommendations, etc. for the student to actually have a chance to be selected a Presidential Scholar.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Am I reading this correctly?
Either you’ve knocked it out of the park on SATs....
or somebody recommends you?

No. For the academic Presidential Scholarship candidate status, it's about knocking out of the park on the SATs/ACT. Then there is a lengthy application that requires lots of school support/recommendations, etc. for the student to actually have a chance to be selected a Presidential Scholar.

No, you are wrong.

"score exceptionally well on either the SAT of the College Board or the ACT of the American College Testing Program, based on tests taken during the two-year window that begins in September, 2015 and runs through October, 2017, (for the recognition cycle concluding in June, 2018), nominated by their Chief State School Officer (CSSO) or nominated by one of our partner recognition organizations based on outstanding scholarship."

https://www2.ed.gov/programs/psp/eligibility.html

SAT/ACT is one of 3 ways to make the initial list.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Five U.S. Presidential Scholars Program candidates from School Without Walls, and eight from E.L. Haynes Public Charter School is very impressive. Congratulations to the DC public schools!

Also, Friendship PCS and KIPP DC each have a few on the list. And HD Woodson, Roosevelt, and Banneker.

I'm a SWW graduate myself, but its nice seeing a mixture of schools on the list!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The list of 2018 candidates for the U.S. Presidential Scholars Program has been published.

Note that this honor -- unlike the National Merit Semifinalists (NMSF) -- is chosen based on the State (or the District) in which you live, and not the State (or District) in which your school is located. And while NMSF is selected based on your PSAT score from October of Junior year, the U.S. Presidential Scholars are chosen based on your highest SAT or ACT scores.

"The U.S. Department of Education then looks at test records for the top 30 males and top 30 females in each of the states/jurisdictions. For each examinee, the SAT score is converted to the ACT Sum of Scores, according to a concordance table. Each individual examinee's highest test score (in a single test administration ) is identified, and duplicates and/or lower scores are dropped."

https://www2.ed.gov/programs/psp/select.html

By way of explanation, in most large, and/or competitive States (e.g., California, Massachusetts, New Jersey, Maryland, and Virginia), you can assume that the top 30 males and the top 30 females in those States will all have earned a perfect 1600 SAT score (or concordance tables will equate that with a perfect 36 ACT score). In fact there will be more than 30 individuals in those States who earned either a 1600 SAT score or a 36 ACT score, and all of them will be U.S. Presidential Scholars candidates. In the District, some smaller (e.g., Wyoming) and/or less competitive States (e.g., Arkansas) the top 30 SAT scores may/will likely dip below a perfect 1600 (and thus accordingly will the qualifying ACT score based on concordance tables). So, for example, DC might have 12 female students per year earning a perfect 1600, 17 earning a 1590, and with 1 spot still available, any female student earning a 1580 would also be a candidate. Also, for some reason, a majority of candidates from each State (or the District) qualify for the U.S. Presidential Scholars Program on the basis of their ACT scores.

Finally, the candidates selected for artistic merit, through a different qualifying process, will not be introduced into the list until the Semifinalist level in April.

"Arts candidates enter the Presidential Scholars Program selection process at the semifinalist level. In April, the Commission on Presidential Scholars makes the final selection of up to 20 Presidential Scholars in the Arts."

https://www2.ed.gov/programs/psp/select.html

I put this explanation in to say that each of the following DC private schools have many excellent students who do not make the list. (Spoken from experience as a few years ago my DC was NMSF in a DC private school (we live in Maryland). DC took the SAT one time, earned a 2390/2400 and was done, but that was not a high enough score for U.S. Presidential Scholars Program.

When going through the private school list, please note that you will have to review the names from DC, Maryland, and Virginia, to get complete numbers. Also, one name from Georgetown Day School appears twice on the DC list, and I omitted the second reference from my tally.


Edmund Burke School -- 4


Georgetown Day School -- 8


Georgetown Visitation Preparatory School -- 1


Gonzaga College High School -- 1


Maret School -- 4


National Cathedral School -- 6


St. Albans School -- 6


Sidwell Friends School -- 7


Washington International School -- 2


https://www2.ed.gov/programs/psp/2018/candidates.pdf

I only listed the private schools in DC itself, but please feel free to add the DC public schools and private schools in Maryland and Virginia.

Is this a good result from the DC private schools?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The list of 2018 candidates for the U.S. Presidential Scholars Program has been published.

Note that this honor -- unlike the National Merit Semifinalists (NMSF) -- is chosen based on the State (or the District) in which you live, and not the State (or District) in which your school is located. And while NMSF is selected based on your PSAT score from October of Junior year, the U.S. Presidential Scholars are chosen based on your highest SAT or ACT scores.

"The U.S. Department of Education then looks at test records for the top 30 males and top 30 females in each of the states/jurisdictions. For each examinee, the SAT score is converted to the ACT Sum of Scores, according to a concordance table. Each individual examinee's highest test score (in a single test administration ) is identified, and duplicates and/or lower scores are dropped."

https://www2.ed.gov/programs/psp/select.html

By way of explanation, in most large, and/or competitive States (e.g., California, Massachusetts, New Jersey, Maryland, and Virginia), you can assume that the top 30 males and the top 30 females in those States will all have earned a perfect 1600 SAT score (or concordance tables will equate that with a perfect 36 ACT score). In fact there will be more than 30 individuals in those States who earned either a 1600 SAT score or a 36 ACT score, and all of them will be U.S. Presidential Scholars candidates. In the District, some smaller (e.g., Wyoming) and/or less competitive States (e.g., Arkansas) the top 30 SAT scores may/will likely dip below a perfect 1600 (and thus accordingly will the qualifying ACT score based on concordance tables). So, for example, DC might have 12 female students per year earning a perfect 1600, 17 earning a 1590, and with 1 spot still available, any female student earning a 1580 would also be a candidate. Also, for some reason, a majority of candidates from each State (or the District) qualify for the U.S. Presidential Scholars Program on the basis of their ACT scores.

Finally, the candidates selected for artistic merit, through a different qualifying process, will not be introduced into the list until the Semifinalist level in April.

"Arts candidates enter the Presidential Scholars Program selection process at the semifinalist level. In April, the Commission on Presidential Scholars makes the final selection of up to 20 Presidential Scholars in the Arts."

https://www2.ed.gov/programs/psp/select.html

I put this explanation in to say that each of the following DC schools have many excellent students who do not make the list. (Spoken from experience as a few years ago my DC was NMSF in a DC private school (we live in Maryland). DC took the SAT one time, earned a 2390/2400 and was done, but that was not a high enough score for U.S. Presidential Scholars Program.

When going through the list, please note that you will have to review the names from DC, Maryland, and Virginia, to get complete numbers. Also, one name from Georgetown Day School appears twice on the DC list, and I omitted the second reference from my tally.


Edmund Burke School -- 4


Georgetown Day School -- 8


Georgetown Visitation Preparatory School -- 1


National Cathedral School -- 6


Gonzaga College High School -- 1


St. Albans School -- 6


Sidwell Friends School -- 7


https://www2.ed.gov/programs/psp/2018/candidates.pdf

Fantastic achievement by GDS, which has more than any other DC-school. But congratulations to all, of course.

[Anonymous]

Please, you are certainly trolling. Not a GDS parent, but a frequent poster on these threads.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The list of 2018 candidates for the U.S. Presidential Scholars Program has been published.

Note that this honor -- unlike the National Merit Semifinalists (NMSF) -- is chosen based on the State (or the District) in which you live, and not the State (or District) in which your school is located. And while NMSF is selected based on your PSAT score from October of Junior year, the U.S. Presidential Scholars are chosen based on your highest SAT or ACT scores.

"The U.S. Department of Education then looks at test records for the top 30 males and top 30 females in each of the states/jurisdictions. For each examinee, the SAT score is converted to the ACT Sum of Scores, according to a concordance table. Each individual examinee's highest test score (in a single test administration ) is identified, and duplicates and/or lower scores are dropped."

https://www2.ed.gov/programs/psp/select.html

By way of explanation, in most large, and/or competitive States (e.g., California, Massachusetts, New Jersey, Maryland, and Virginia), you can assume that the top 30 males and the top 30 females in those States will all have earned a perfect 1600 SAT score (or concordance tables will equate that with a perfect 36 ACT score). In fact there will be more than 30 individuals in those States who earned either a 1600 SAT score or a 36 ACT score, and all of them will be U.S. Presidential Scholars candidates. In the District, some smaller (e.g., Wyoming) and/or less competitive States (e.g., Arkansas) the top 30 SAT scores may/will likely dip below a perfect 1600 (and thus accordingly will the qualifying ACT score based on concordance tables). So, for example, DC might have 12 female students per year earning a perfect 1600, 17 earning a 1590, and with 1 spot still available, any female student earning a 1580 would also be a candidate. Also, for some reason, a majority of candidates from each State (or the District) qualify for the U.S. Presidential Scholars Program on the basis of their ACT scores.

Finally, the candidates selected for artistic merit, through a different qualifying process, will not be introduced into the list until the Semifinalist level in April.

"Arts candidates enter the Presidential Scholars Program selection process at the semifinalist level. In April, the Commission on Presidential Scholars makes the final selection of up to 20 Presidential Scholars in the Arts."

https://www2.ed.gov/programs/psp/select.html

I put this explanation in to say that each of the following DC schools have many excellent students who do not make the list. (Spoken from experience as a few years ago my DC was NMSF in a DC private school (we live in Maryland). DC took the SAT one time, earned a 2390/2400 and was done, but that was not a high enough score for U.S. Presidential Scholars Program.

When going through the list, please note that you will have to review the names from DC, Maryland, and Virginia, to get complete numbers. Also, one name from Georgetown Day School appears twice on the DC list, and I omitted the second reference from my tally.


Edmund Burke School -- 4


Georgetown Day School -- 8


Georgetown Visitation Preparatory School -- 1


National Cathedral School -- 6


Gonzaga College High School -- 1


St. Albans School -- 6


Sidwell Friends School -- 7


https://www2.ed.gov/programs/psp/2018/candidates.pdf

Fantastic achievement by GDS, which has more than any other DC-school. But congratulations to all, of course.

Class is larger. Again, problems with math on this board.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The list of 2018 candidates for the U.S. Presidential Scholars Program has been published.

Note that this honor -- unlike the National Merit Semifinalists (NMSF) -- is chosen based on the State (or the District) in which you live, and not the State (or District) in which your school is located. And while NMSF is selected based on your PSAT score from October of Junior year, the U.S. Presidential Scholars are chosen based on your highest SAT or ACT scores.

"The U.S. Department of Education then looks at test records for the top 30 males and top 30 females in each of the states/jurisdictions. For each examinee, the SAT score is converted to the ACT Sum of Scores, according to a concordance table. Each individual examinee's highest test score (in a single test administration ) is identified, and duplicates and/or lower scores are dropped."

https://www2.ed.gov/programs/psp/select.html

By way of explanation, in most large, and/or competitive States (e.g., California, Massachusetts, New Jersey, Maryland, and Virginia), you can assume that the top 30 males and the top 30 females in those States will all have earned a perfect 1600 SAT score (or concordance tables will equate that with a perfect 36 ACT score). In fact there will be more than 30 individuals in those States who earned either a 1600 SAT score or a 36 ACT score, and all of them will be U.S. Presidential Scholars candidates. In the District, some smaller (e.g., Wyoming) and/or less competitive States (e.g., Arkansas) the top 30 SAT scores may/will likely dip below a perfect 1600 (and thus accordingly will the qualifying ACT score based on concordance tables). So, for example, DC might have 12 female students per year earning a perfect 1600, 17 earning a 1590, and with 1 spot still available, any female student earning a 1580 would also be a candidate. Also, for some reason, a majority of candidates from each State (or the District) qualify for the U.S. Presidential Scholars Program on the basis of their ACT scores.

Finally, the candidates selected for artistic merit, through a different qualifying process, will not be introduced into the list until the Semifinalist level in April.

"Arts candidates enter the Presidential Scholars Program selection process at the semifinalist level. In April, the Commission on Presidential Scholars makes the final selection of up to 20 Presidential Scholars in the Arts."

https://www2.ed.gov/programs/psp/select.html

I put this explanation in to say that each of the following DC schools have many excellent students who do not make the list. (Spoken from experience as a few years ago my DC was NMSF in a DC private school (we live in Maryland). DC took the SAT one time, earned a 2390/2400 and was done, but that was not a high enough score for U.S. Presidential Scholars Program.

When going through the list, please note that you will have to review the names from DC, Maryland, and Virginia, to get complete numbers. Also, one name from Georgetown Day School appears twice on the DC list, and I omitted the second reference from my tally.


Edmund Burke School -- 4


Georgetown Day School -- 8


Georgetown Visitation Preparatory School -- 1


National Cathedral School -- 6


Gonzaga College High School -- 1


St. Albans School -- 6


Sidwell Friends School -- 7


https://www2.ed.gov/programs/psp/2018/candidates.pdf

Fantastic achievement by GDS, which has more than any other DC-school. But congratulations to all, of course.

Whenever GDS boosters want to shoehorn themselves into the big three, they insist that NCS (6) and STA (6) count as one school. Which is it?.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The list of 2018 candidates for the U.S. Presidential Scholars Program has been published.

Note that this honor -- unlike the National Merit Semifinalists (NMSF) -- is chosen based on the State (or the District) in which you live, and not the State (or District) in which your school is located. And while NMSF is selected based on your PSAT score from October of Junior year, the U.S. Presidential Scholars are chosen based on your highest SAT or ACT scores.

"The U.S. Department of Education then looks at test records for the top 30 males and top 30 females in each of the states/jurisdictions. For each examinee, the SAT score is converted to the ACT Sum of Scores, according to a concordance table. Each individual examinee's highest test score (in a single test administration ) is identified, and duplicates and/or lower scores are dropped."

https://www2.ed.gov/programs/psp/select.html

By way of explanation, in most large, and/or competitive States (e.g., California, Massachusetts, New Jersey, Maryland, and Virginia), you can assume that the top 30 males and the top 30 females in those States will all have earned a perfect 1600 SAT score (or concordance tables will equate that with a perfect 36 ACT score). In fact there will be more than 30 individuals in those States who earned either a 1600 SAT score or a 36 ACT score, and all of them will be U.S. Presidential Scholars candidates. In the District, some smaller (e.g., Wyoming) and/or less competitive States (e.g., Arkansas) the top 30 SAT scores may/will likely dip below a perfect 1600 (and thus accordingly will the qualifying ACT score based on concordance tables). So, for example, DC might have 12 female students per year earning a perfect 1600, 17 earning a 1590, and with 1 spot still available, any female student earning a 1580 would also be a candidate. Also, for some reason, a majority of candidates from each State (or the District) qualify for the U.S. Presidential Scholars Program on the basis of their ACT scores.

Finally, the candidates selected for artistic merit, through a different qualifying process, will not be introduced into the list until the Semifinalist level in April.

"Arts candidates enter the Presidential Scholars Program selection process at the semifinalist level. In April, the Commission on Presidential Scholars makes the final selection of up to 20 Presidential Scholars in the Arts."

https://www2.ed.gov/programs/psp/select.html

I put this explanation in to say that each of the following DC schools have many excellent students who do not make the list. (Spoken from experience as a few years ago my DC was NMSF in a DC private school (we live in Maryland). DC took the SAT one time, earned a 2390/2400 and was done, but that was not a high enough score for U.S. Presidential Scholars Program.

When going through the list, please note that you will have to review the names from DC, Maryland, and Virginia, to get complete numbers. Also, one name from Georgetown Day School appears twice on the DC list, and I omitted the second reference from my tally.


Edmund Burke School -- 4


Georgetown Day School -- 8


Georgetown Visitation Preparatory School -- 1


National Cathedral School -- 6


Gonzaga College High School -- 1


St. Albans School -- 6


Sidwell Friends School -- 7


https://www2.ed.gov/programs/psp/2018/candidates.pdf

Fantastic achievement by GDS, which has more than any other DC-school. But congratulations to all, of course.

Whenever GDS boosters want to shoehorn themselves into the big three, they insist that NCS (6) and STA (6) count as one school. Which is it?.

If you combined St Albans and Cathedral, they would constitute a very large school. For an average sized private, GDS has a superior record. That's not to say that other schools don't get their share. Why all the hate on GDS?

[Anonymous]

Georgetown Day School, National Cathedral School, Sidwell Friends School, and St. Albans School all had a number of U.S. Presidential Scholar Candidates, as did Edmund Burke School and Maret School. This is not an interscholastic, zero sum competition, and all of these schools should be proud of their students.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The list of 2018 candidates for the U.S. Presidential Scholars Program has been published.

Note that this honor -- unlike the National Merit Semifinalists (NMSF) -- is chosen based on the State (or the District) in which you live, and not the State (or District) in which your school is located. And while NMSF is selected based on your PSAT score from October of Junior year, the U.S. Presidential Scholars are chosen based on your highest SAT or ACT scores.

"The U.S. Department of Education then looks at test records for the top 30 males and top 30 females in each of the states/jurisdictions. For each examinee, the SAT score is converted to the ACT Sum of Scores, according to a concordance table. Each individual examinee's highest test score (in a single test administration ) is identified, and duplicates and/or lower scores are dropped."

https://www2.ed.gov/programs/psp/select.html

By way of explanation, in most large, and/or competitive States (e.g., California, Massachusetts, New Jersey, Maryland, and Virginia), you can assume that the top 30 males and the top 30 females in those States will all have earned a perfect 1600 SAT score (or concordance tables will equate that with a perfect 36 ACT score). In fact there will be more than 30 individuals in those States who earned either a 1600 SAT score or a 36 ACT score, and all of them will be U.S. Presidential Scholars candidates. In the District, some smaller (e.g., Wyoming) and/or less competitive States (e.g., Arkansas) the top 30 SAT scores may/will likely dip below a perfect 1600 (and thus accordingly will the qualifying ACT score based on concordance tables). So, for example, DC might have 12 female students per year earning a perfect 1600, 17 earning a 1590, and with 1 spot still available, any female student earning a 1580 would also be a candidate. Also, for some reason, a majority of candidates from each State (or the District) qualify for the U.S. Presidential Scholars Program on the basis of their ACT scores.

Finally, the candidates selected for artistic merit, through a different qualifying process, will not be introduced into the list until the Semifinalist level in April.

"Arts candidates enter the Presidential Scholars Program selection process at the semifinalist level. In April, the Commission on Presidential Scholars makes the final selection of up to 20 Presidential Scholars in the Arts."

https://www2.ed.gov/programs/psp/select.html

I put this explanation in to say that each of the following DC schools have many excellent students who do not make the list. (Spoken from experience as a few years ago my DC was NMSF in a DC private school (we live in Maryland). DC took the SAT one time, earned a 2390/2400 and was done, but that was not a high enough score for U.S. Presidential Scholars Program.

When going through the list, please note that you will have to review the names from DC, Maryland, and Virginia, to get complete numbers. Also, one name from Georgetown Day School appears twice on the DC list, and I omitted the second reference from my tally.


Edmund Burke School -- 4


Georgetown Day School -- 8


Georgetown Visitation Preparatory School -- 1


National Cathedral School -- 6


Gonzaga College High School -- 1


St. Albans School -- 6


Sidwell Friends School -- 7


https://www2.ed.gov/programs/psp/2018/candidates.pdf

Fantastic achievement by GDS, which has more than any other DC-school. But congratulations to all, of course.

Whenever GDS boosters want to shoehorn themselves into the big three, they insist that NCS (6) and STA (6) count as one school. Which is it?.

If you combined St Albans and Cathedral, they would constitute a very large school. For an average sized private, GDS has a superior record. That's not to say that other schools don't get their share. Why all the hate on GDS?

My previous post was meant to point out the humor and irony of the logical inconsistency of grouping the Cathedral schools together for one purpose and not another.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The list of 2018 candidates for the U.S. Presidential Scholars Program has been published.

Note that this honor -- unlike the National Merit Semifinalists (NMSF) -- is chosen based on the State (or the District) in which you live, and not the State (or District) in which your school is located. And while NMSF is selected based on your PSAT score from October of Junior year, the U.S. Presidential Scholars are chosen based on your highest SAT or ACT scores.

"The U.S. Department of Education then looks at test records for the top 30 males and top 30 females in each of the states/jurisdictions. For each examinee, the SAT score is converted to the ACT Sum of Scores, according to a concordance table. Each individual examinee's highest test score (in a single test administration ) is identified, and duplicates and/or lower scores are dropped."

https://www2.ed.gov/programs/psp/select.html

By way of explanation, in most large, and/or competitive States (e.g., California, Massachusetts, New Jersey, Maryland, and Virginia), you can assume that the top 30 males and the top 30 females in those States will all have earned a perfect 1600 SAT score (or concordance tables will equate that with a perfect 36 ACT score). In fact there will be more than 30 individuals in those States who earned either a 1600 SAT score or a 36 ACT score, and all of them will be U.S. Presidential Scholars candidates. In the District, some smaller (e.g., Wyoming) and/or less competitive States (e.g., Arkansas) the top 30 SAT scores may/will likely dip below a perfect 1600 (and thus accordingly will the qualifying ACT score based on concordance tables). So, for example, DC might have 12 female students per year earning a perfect 1600, 17 earning a 1590, and with 1 spot still available, any female student earning a 1580 would also be a candidate. Also, for some reason, a majority of candidates from each State (or the District) qualify for the U.S. Presidential Scholars Program on the basis of their ACT scores.

Finally, the candidates selected for artistic merit, through a different qualifying process, will not be introduced into the list until the Semifinalist level in April.

"Arts candidates enter the Presidential Scholars Program selection process at the semifinalist level. In April, the Commission on Presidential Scholars makes the final selection of up to 20 Presidential Scholars in the Arts."

https://www2.ed.gov/programs/psp/select.html

I put this explanation in to say that each of the following DC schools have many excellent students who do not make the list. (Spoken from experience as a few years ago my DC was NMSF in a DC private school (we live in Maryland). DC took the SAT one time, earned a 2390/2400 and was done, but that was not a high enough score for U.S. Presidential Scholars Program.

When going through the list, please note that you will have to review the names from DC, Maryland, and Virginia, to get complete numbers. Also, one name from Georgetown Day School appears twice on the DC list, and I omitted the second reference from my tally.


Edmund Burke School -- 4


Georgetown Day School -- 8


Georgetown Visitation Preparatory School -- 1


National Cathedral School -- 6


Gonzaga College High School -- 1


St. Albans School -- 6


Sidwell Friends School -- 7


https://www2.ed.gov/programs/psp/2018/candidates.pdf

Fantastic achievement by GDS, which has more than any other DC-school. But congratulations to all, of course.

Whenever GDS boosters want to shoehorn themselves into the big three, they insist that NCS (6) and STA (6) count as one school. Which is it?.

If you combined St Albans and Cathedral, they would constitute a very large school. For an average sized private, GDS has a superior record. That's not to say that other schools don't get their share. Why all the hate on GDS?

Wrong. STA and NCS have about 75-80 in their graduating class each so combined class of about 150. GDS has about 130-140 in its graduating class. Not that different. So if you want to count STA and NCS as one school for “Big 3” purposes to allow GDS to claim it’s a “big 3” too as they insist on, then do the same when counting NMSF or Presidential scholars. Consistency folks.

[Anonymous]

I see the GDS self-promotion department is working overtime this application season.