Top DCPS Elementary Schools
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Anonymous
Based on what? |
Anonymous
Whiteness in ECE. |
Anonymous
I respectfully disagree. Yes, test scores are the primary factor into my ranking. When I say I use demographics, I mean to adjust. I should start by saying I don't have kids at any of the schools I ranked. When I look at demographics, I look at test scores and growth of the school and compare it to a comparable schoolnor comparable population of DC's larger group's performance. To PP that has issues with why I ranked Brent tier 1b, Brent has one of the lowest FARM rates and one of the highest population of white kids. Quite honestly, I expect them to have better scores. They are about 10-15 points higher than Shepherd but Shepherd has 3 times the FARM and 80% AA. Eaton, Watkins, and Stoddert's white kid test scores are amazing. When you do that many of the schools are neck and neck. Then as a parent of a minority, I will use things like diverse population to rank order. |
Anonymous
You don't have a clue what you're yammering on about. Take Brent, for example. The data shows that overall kids who enroll after K don't perform as well on the various testing regimens as those who started at ECE or K. Several years ago, the school began to add an additional classroom for each of grades K-4. This obviously resulted in the enrollment through the lottery of a cohort living outside the neighborhood attendance boundary at upper grade levels. And, yes, many of these kids were lower-SES in comparison to the extant in-bound population, which had the effect of exacerbating the already-existing achievement gap. Not surprisingly, the articulation of this cohort has continued into the DC-CAS/PARCC testing grades that your focusing on. So, yes, shit is oftentimes complicated and rankings of this nature are utterly ridiculous, even with access to real, granular data. |
Anonymous
You're onto something here. Enrollment in upper grades is more fluid than ECE, and it's upper grades that test and shape perceptions of school performance. It's almost like PK3-2nd don't matter to some people despite how formative that period may be for development. And in all fairness, no one should assume that students enrolling in upper grades OOB are a drag on scores. From my admittedly limited experience and sample size we've seen of range of achievement level of white and black kids entering our ES above K. |
Anonymous
So you use "white kid test scores" as your barometer of a good school? Yikes. |
Anonymous
NP. I agree that would be a pretty poor conclusion to draw. But one could conclude that a well supported child would do well at the school, regardless of whether it is a "good school". |
Anonymous
Yeah I'm not buying it. Brent is only 9% low income. You cannot attribute the meh scores on OOB, low income black kids. In fact, when you look at the non low income scores, they are in the mid 60s. Not horrible but not in mid 70s like Eaton, or averaging closer to 80 like Stoddert. Even if you are saying he non income black students are dragging your scores down, I'd argue that Brent's average white scores are 73, Watkins is 89, Eaton is 79. Heck, even Eaton's black student scores are 68, a mere 5 points behind Brent's white scores. Being tier 1b in one person's rankings is not an indictment against you, your kid, or your real estate choices. I also made a point to be polite in my first response and you proceeded to do the opposite. |
Anonymous
Where can we find all of this data? |
Anonymous
on what planet would you consider Brent to have "meh" scores? Just for perspective it's still in the top 10% for DC. Most schools would kill for their scores. Brent'd 5th grade has also been bled for years by charter defection. They may not back fill 5th but they lose a lot of top performing students who would raise overall test scores for Brent instead BASIS and WL. |
Anonymous
http://results.osse.dc.gov |
Anonymous
On earth. Did you not read my commentary? Yes, Brent is in the top 10% of all DCPS schools. Now are you happy? I would even say they are top 10 elementary schools. I just wouldn't put it in same category as Mann, Eaton, Stoddert, Ross, Janney, Key, and Lafayette. Thus 1b. If you factor in feeder schools and attrition, I'd say tier 2. But strictly on elementary performance, I'd say 1b. |
Anonymous
Also, Brent's 3rd graders have the worst scores so I think you may be just guessing blame instead of looking at actual data. Being biased may do that to you. Again, I don't have a kid at any of these schools. |
Anonymous
No, but the annual 5th grade exodus is a built in drag regardless of the 3rd grade scores in a single given year. |
Anonymous
So now it's the 5th grade drag that impact Brent's meh scores and not the low income OOB black kids? Ok got it. What about the white high income students that are still there and getting 60%? Are try so tormented in 3rd grade that kids two years older than them left for Basis this year that they couldn't test well? Why are they performing 20 POINTS behind the white kids at Stoddert who also have exodus? |