Attn Maury parents

[Anonymous]

Charles Allen is zoned for Miner. Just saying...

LOL AND WE HAVE OUR ANSWER, EVERYBODY!

Ok this is pretty funny.

And he sends his kids to JO. So this moving Maury into Miner thing would be great for him. Cut down on his commute and he would stop taking flack about not sending his kid to his neighborhood school.

All the more reason to opposed this awful plan ... hint hint:

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdq-Y8TRjflX9ySc8x2ipkqgHOT8EafXNjKqQ1UKHxzlpTydg/viewform

responses due by friday

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Charles Allen is zoned for Miner. Just saying...

LOL AND WE HAVE OUR ANSWER, EVERYBODY!

Ok this is pretty funny.

And he sends his kids to JO. So this moving Maury into Miner thing would be great for him. Cut down on his commute and he would stop taking flack about not sending his kid to his neighborhood school.

All the more reason to opposed this awful plan ... hint hint:

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdq-Y8TRjflX9ySc8x2ipkqgHOT8EafXNjKqQ1UKHxzlpTydg/viewform

responses due by friday

Many people I know would think hard before trading the SH feeder for EH if they were planning on being in the city through MS.

[Anonymous]

Looks like this came here from the Maury side. Where the Miner families also surveyed?

[Anonymous]

I actually think the combined ECE grades would work fine and would have the added benefit of all/most Maury families getting access to PK, which only siblings get right now. Also, Maury families: keep in mind that the alternative will likely involve scrapping your PK all together eventually...

Obviously the question is whether the Cluster would destroy the upper grades at Maury, since those grades don't work at Miner at all at the moment.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I actually think the combined ECE grades would work fine and would have the added benefit of all/most Maury families getting access to PK, which only siblings get right now. Also, Maury families: keep in mind that the alternative will likely involve scrapping your PK all together eventually...

Obviously the question is whether the Cluster would destroy the upper grades at Maury, since those grades don't work at Miner at all at the moment.

It's obvious it will destroy maury. Do you think upper elementary Maury teachers with effective ratings are going to waste their time trying to teach miner kids? No. The good teachers will leave and have their choice of other schools that aren't being actively undermined by DCPS

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I actually think the combined ECE grades would work fine and would have the added benefit of all/most Maury families getting access to PK, which only siblings get right now. Also, Maury families: keep in mind that the alternative will likely involve scrapping your PK all together eventually...

Obviously the question is whether the Cluster would destroy the upper grades at Maury, since those grades don't work at Miner at all at the moment.

It's obvious it will destroy maury. Do you think upper elementary Maury teachers with effective ratings are going to waste their time trying to teach miner kids? No. The good teachers will leave and have their choice of other schools that aren't being actively undermined by DCPS

Wow! So much for thinking that teachers don't pre-judge kids. Maybe IMPACT (or LEAP or whatever) is really needed . . . I'm not one to favor test scores as a way to evaluate teachers but sentiments like that may make me a proponent.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I actually think the combined ECE grades would work fine and would have the added benefit of all/most Maury families getting access to PK, which only siblings get right now. Also, Maury families: keep in mind that the alternative will likely involve scrapping your PK all together eventually...

Obviously the question is whether the Cluster would destroy the upper grades at Maury, since those grades don't work at Miner at all at the moment.

It's obvious it will destroy maury. Do you think upper elementary Maury teachers with effective ratings are going to waste their time trying to teach miner kids? No. The good teachers will leave and have their choice of other schools that aren't being actively undermined by DCPS

Wow! So much for thinking that teachers don't pre-judge kids. Maybe IMPACT (or LEAP or whatever) is really needed . . . I'm not one to favor test scores as a way to evaluate teachers but sentiments like that may make me a proponent.

Evaluating teachers via test scores is exactly why good teachers rarely waste their time in failing situations like this. Why would you risk your job to be evaluated on the performance of 3rd grade students who are brand new to your school's culture? Who have never experienced a rigorous learning environment?

[Anonymous]

If the people on popville think it's a good idea, you are in real trouble

http://www.popville.com/2017/01/dcps-is-proposed-a-merger-between-maury-elementary-school-and-miner/#comments

[Anonymous]

Let's also cluster Brent and Amidom-Bowen!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It seems that the DCPS is proposing to merge Maury and Miner together because the construction budget for Maury is not large enough to service the current boundary.

Here's why this is crazy:

1. DCPS just redrew the boundary 2 years ago for Maury and made it bigger. Now apparently it's too big. So this is a mistake of DCPS' own making
2. Everyone here knows the modernization budgets in this city are crazy but I've never heard of them merging 2 school buildings because of a tight construction budget. This is the same DCPS that has spent over $200 million on Duke Ellington, which has fewer kids than Maury and enrolls Maryland students!! So WHY DONT THEY ASK THE CITY FOR MORE MONEY INSTEAD
3. This seems like a thinly veiled attempt to salvage Miner, which has abysmal performance. But combining 1 good school & 1 bad school together =/= 1 successful school
4. I strongly doubt Miner parents want to be inundated with Maury families and I know for a fact that Maury parents don't want their kids to go to Miner

DCPS is asking parents to complete this survey. If you think this is crazy (or maybe you think it's great, IDK), I encourage you to take the survey:

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdq-Y8TRjflX9ySc8x2ipkqgHOT8EafXNjKqQ1UKHxzlpTydg/viewform

I don't know where I come out on this issue but OP's "argument" is just silly, self involved and a tad bit racist and classist. Let's examine, shall we?

1. And??? what exactly is her point? Yes, the original decision was made by DCPS. And let's assume for the sake of argument that the boundaries were too big and it created a problem. There is a problem, so now it has to be solved. OP's post doesn't propose another outcome, it just says that DCPS created it. So because they created it they cannot or should not solve it? Your argument is what I would expect from a pre-teen or teen.
2. Money doesn't equal land. Unless, of course, you want them to annex the houses on the block. Also, the fact that there were silly cost oveerruns and excessive spending elsewhere doesn't mean they should repeat the behavior. That's a child's response. As a taxpayer I would like to see excessive spending stopped, not perpetuated. Although I am guessing that OP would argue that DCPS should overspend on Maury so they get theirs, but then stop such irresponsible spending. That argument would be consistent with the self involved and juvenile "logic" in the rest of OP's post.
3. "Salvage Miner"? Wow (and I don't live near there and my kids don't go there so I do not have a horse in this race), but wow! It doesn't need salvaging. It's not where Maury or Brent or LT are, but that doesn't mean it doesn't have the right to exist. As to your second thought here, yes, there is no denying that part of the solution here is to try and solve an overcrowding issue with an action that also might benefit another school. But that's actually a smart approach. As to your little equation, um, the data suggests that these types of actions actually do work. You have the right to take issue with the data, but your silly equation just makes you look ignorant for not even understanding that such data exists.
4. This was my favorite of the four generally ignorant and angry statements. Please tell us why Miner families wouldn't want to be "inundated with Maury families". Are you all too well spoken? Rich? Educated? White? What's the subtext here, please tell us all high and mighty. I bet that Miner families would love to have engaged parents and high performing kids join their school. Whether they would want you coming along with your kids is a horse of a different color altogether.

Again, I do not have kids at Maury or Miner. And the proposed merger deserves a careful and serious consideration. OP's absurd post just isn't that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I actually think the combined ECE grades would work fine and would have the added benefit of all/most Maury families getting access to PK, which only siblings get right now. Also, Maury families: keep in mind that the alternative will likely involve scrapping your PK all together eventually...

Obviously the question is whether the Cluster would destroy the upper grades at Maury, since those grades don't work at Miner at all at the moment.

This isn't about the Maury or Miner communities or the best interest of DCPS. This is about the families currently at Maury. If their sibling status keeps them there then that is all that matters.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I cannot believe this. And our only representative is the worthless Charles Allen. The same guy who has never done a thing but make the Hill a totally worse place to live.

I don't have particularly strong feelings about Charles Allen but in my experience he is a nice guy who shows up and is very receptive to constituents' complaints. He is also on the right side of most local issues I care about. But I see a comment with almost this exact phrasing every time his name comes up here. Are you a political rival or something? It's really strange.

I think by and large Charles Allen is a nice guy. But in this city, you unfortunately need a representative who will shamelessly lobby and fight for what's best your ward, or else the city bureaucracy will run roughshod over your neighborhood. Just look at what they're doing to Maury and the craziness with Watkins relocation. Or the state of 17th street. For comparison, there is no way that Mary Cheh would stand for this craziness in ward 3

Sorry, Charlie. Were you sleeping when they rezoned several schools away from Deal?

I like the proposal.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I cannot believe this. And our only representative is the worthless Charles Allen. The same guy who has never done a thing but make the Hill a totally worse place to live.

I don't have particularly strong feelings about Charles Allen but in my experience he is a nice guy who shows up and is very receptive to constituents' complaints. He is also on the right side of most local issues I care about. But I see a comment with almost this exact phrasing every time his name comes up here. Are you a political rival or something? It's really strange.

I think by and large Charles Allen is a nice guy. But in this city, you unfortunately need a representative who will shamelessly lobby and fight for what's best your ward, or else the city bureaucracy will run roughshod over your neighborhood. Just look at what they're doing to Maury and the craziness with Watkins relocation. Or the state of 17th street. For comparison, there is no way that Mary Cheh would stand for this craziness in ward 3

Sorry, Charlie. Were you sleeping when they rezoned several schools away from Deal?

I like the proposal.

Me again. P.S., see, http://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/614856.page The overcrowding in Ward 3 is a major issue that is going to have to be addressed sooner rather than later. Also, for the morons complaining about swing space, please talk to Murch parents and then come tell me this is a Ward 6 or Charles Allen issue.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Let's also cluster Brent and Amidom-Bowen!

There was a push to cluster Van Ness and Amidon-Bowen when VN reopened a few years ago. The Capitol Quarter families shut that down pretty quick. What ended up happening though is that the Van Ness boundary was drawn in a way that includes 2 out of 3 public housing projects in Southwest, instead of having the boundary be South Capitol Street, as the wealthier families in SE preferred.

[Anonymous]

I wish someone would run the ## and figure out how many IB students are not attending Miner. If the whole neighborhood just enrolls in a Maury/Miner cluster, then we'll have a great, diverse, urban school. People should not be so scared of change. At the same time I think if this is DCPS's solution they need to sweeten the pot somehow, perhaps with a dual language program or a Reggio ECE program.