When in doubt, blame DC

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Anonymous wrote:To PP: the DC metro area has approx. 3 million people. Chicago doesn't have 2.8 million people--its metro area does, so please compare apples to apples.



Chicago (shikä'g?, shikô'g?) [key], city (1990 pop. 2,783,726), seat of Cook co., NE Ill., on Lake Michigan; inc. 1837. The third largest city in the United States and the heart of a metropolitan area of over 8 million people


Not the PP who made the error being corrected here, but I agree with her point that it is kind of silly to just look at the population of the District. I mean, c'mon, everyone knows that when one says "DC" one means the whole area.



Ok- then Los Angeles County, which doesn't include Orange County, 2009 population : 9,862,049
1990 population of Chicago metro area: over 8 million
DC metro area according to PP who was wrong about Chicago: 3 million



Orange County, CA, which is as much a part of the LA metro area as Fairfax County is a part of DC's metro area, adds another 3 million people there.


As a native Angeleno, Orange County is not considered part of L.A. In fact, there was a brouhaha some years back when baseball changed the name of the AL team California Angels, who play in Orange County, to the L.A. Angels. The brouhaha was precisely because people in L.A. don't consider Orange County to be L.A., yet major league baseball figured they would get more national interest in the team to name it after a major city, figuring non-natives wouldn't even know the difference. Clearly this poster exemplifies that ignorance. (Unless PP is actually from Orange County trying to improve its rep! )


Actually, I grew up on the Westside, but I still think the comparison stands. Living in DC, I think the relative position of Fairfax County doesn't really merit inclusion, and I have no reason to go there, but it is a significant source of population in the region and lots of people who work in DC live there.
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My DH is always commenting about "only in DC," or "people here are so rude," or "NOVA people can't drive." I want to scream at him, you know what? There are assholes, rude people and terrible drivers in EVERY CITY! I've seen them in LA, OC, NY, DC, Fairfax and even Denver. It makes no sense to blame a whole city that is full of transplants from other places.
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Anonymous wrote:rather than arguing about the size of cities, I think we need to talk about world-class cities, of which new york is certainly one, but dc is not.

it does have its share of world-class assholes, though.


Agreed, but the perspective of numbers is needed when people compare much larger cities to DC. "World class" is hard to define for a crew that thinks a world class city merely needs to have restaurant diversity beyond an Olive Garden, and by the way we have some diplomats posted here. (Never mind that business and culture cities draw even more international residents).

I'd like to see a real discussion of amenities, of which we have some quite good ones, and weaknesses that can eventually be improved upon. World class cities do need a stronger range of arts, entertainment and shopping. Unfortunately, some of this comes back to population. We need more patrons in general, and we need more patrons in central areas.
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PP - NICE!
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"it does have its share of world-class assholes, though."


BWAHAHAHA!

"Ah, you sound just like those New Yorkers who have never stepped foot outside of the city (so wordly, you people are!), and yet, somehow think no other city matches up. It's too amusing to bother responding in kind. Your message says everything I know to be accurate about New York."

Oh no, I'm not from NY, and I have to agree with the New Yorker. New Yorkers seem much better traveled than D.C. area people. HOW much can one really see, know and experience from a secure military base, anyway? I've been here long enough to know that D.C. REALLY has it with some cities (which offer more) - NY is one of them. A small example, D.C. has so much "pride" it doesn't even show up at it's baseball games. The stadium is 3/4 empty, at best. Whooppeee...Nationals......

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I'm not clear on why it's so important to some of the posters to sniff at DC. It's such a backwater, it's full of small town people, it's certainly no NYC! Why does it bother you all so much?
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Anonymous wrote:"it does have its share of world-class assholes, though."


BWAHAHAHA!

"Ah, you sound just like those New Yorkers who have never stepped foot outside of the city (so wordly, you people are!), and yet, somehow think no other city matches up. It's too amusing to bother responding in kind. Your message says everything I know to be accurate about New York."

Oh no, I'm not from NY, and I have to agree with the New Yorker. New Yorkers seem much better traveled than D.C. area people. HOW much can one really see, know and experience from a secure military base, anyway? I've been here long enough to know that D.C. REALLY has it with some cities (which offer more) - NY is one of them. A small example, D.C. has so much "pride" it doesn't even show up at it's baseball games. The stadium is 3/4 empty, at best. Whooppeee...Nationals......



Your post borders on retarded -- it's completely illogical, and I can't make heads or tails of what you are saying. "How much can one really see, know and experience from a secure military base, anyway?" Are you referring to the city of Washington as a "secure military base" or are you actually referring to military bases in the states of Virginia and/or Maryland? I can assure you that the majority of the DC population -- both those who live and work here -- don't live on a military base.

"I've been here long enough to know that D.C. REALLY has it with some cities (which offer more) - NY is one of them."

What does that sentence even mean? One thing I can tell you we have here is people who can speak in full and complete sentences. You appear not to be one of them.

And sports comparisons?? By that logic, Detroit, Philadelphia, and Buffalo are the true "world class" cities because few cities match up to them for sports fanatics.

You, sir or ma'am, are an imbecile. Please stay away from DC.
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"Please stay away from D.C."

WHO would employ you if we left? WHO would keep your economy going?

"What do you mean?" Typical D.C. response. Go ahead, keep playing stupid. It serves you well. Oh, I mean no it doesn't. And you wonder why? Funny!
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Anonymous wrote:"Please stay away from D.C."

WHO would employ you if we left? WHO would keep your economy going?

"What do you mean?" Typical D.C. response. Go ahead, keep playing stupid. It serves you well. Oh, I mean no it doesn't. And you wonder why? Funny!


I can assure you that you are far too stupid and uneducated to be my employer.

Yes, "what do you mean" is a typical D.C. or any other American-speaking person's response to a garbled, broken English sentence. Unless you are an immigrant, you should be ashamed of yourself that your grammar and writing style is so poor that you cannot get across what is (presumably) a simple point.
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Wouldn't you like to know. Still laughing......
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I don't care that DC isn't NYC... or L.A., or Chicago, or Boston. I live HERE. I know it's far from perfect, but what city isn't? I could sit here and pick it apart, so long as I live here, I choose to be happy.
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Anonymous wrote:I don't care that DC isn't NYC... or L.A., or Chicago, or Boston. I live HERE. I know it's far from perfect, but what city isn't? I could sit here and pick it apart, so long as I live here, I choose to be happy.


Hear, hear!
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Anonymous wrote:I don't care that DC isn't NYC... or L.A., or Chicago, or Boston. I live HERE. I know it's far from perfect, but what city isn't? I could sit here and pick it apart, so long as I live here, I choose to be happy.


I'm one of the complaining posters. I choose to try to improve it, and the improvement is happening, at least east of the Park where there are no UpperNorthwesties to tilt at mixed use development and busier street life. The progress is slow, but even in the almost 5 years I've been here, the number of businesses that are useful to me, places I want to go, and even people on the street has increased noticeably. There is also a lot of interest in more thoughtful urban planning. I don't expect this will ever be NYC, of course, but I do think we can build a more credible capital. We should be inspired by Paris, not Peoria.
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21:26 - Well done. Someone with pull! I love it!
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Anonymous wrote:I don't care that DC isn't NYC... or L.A., or Chicago, or Boston. I live HERE. I know it's far from perfect, but what city isn't? I could sit here and pick it apart, so long as I live here, I choose to be happy.


I'm one of the complaining posters. I choose to try to improve it, and the improvement is happening, at least east of the Park where there are no UpperNorthwesties to tilt at mixed use development and busier street life. The progress is slow, but even in the almost 5 years I've been here, the number of businesses that are useful to me, places I want to go, and even people on the street has increased noticeably. There is also a lot of interest in more thoughtful urban planning. I don't expect this will ever be NYC, of course, but I do think we can build a more credible capital. We should be inspired by Paris, not Peoria.


Choosing to be happy doesn't mean I don't advocate or work to improve things. Of course DC can be better. I'd like more cross-town bus lines, less crime, better schools, more bike lanes, and so many, many other things. But I don't sit here and stew about how awful DC is, either.
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