Non-Catholic Attending Catholic High School?
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Anonymous
OK, OK. We get your point. The tiny fraction of the non-Roman Catholic population that you represent can take Communion because of some arcane RC church rule. But all those other non-Catholics including all Protestants, Jews, Muslims, Bhuddists, Zoroastrians, etc, etc are not supposed to be taking Communion and priests should not knowingly give it to them. And communion isn't the only part of the Mass that non-Catholics shouldn't participate in no matter how badly they want to appear to fit in. Our non-Catholic users of the Catholic schools seem to want to invent this fiction that the five minutes a week in which we take communion is the only thing that separates Catholics and Catholicism from their faiths. That's because they don't know anything about Catholicism, or Catholic culture or the history of Catholic immigrants to America. What they know is that these Catholic schools are not the Public schools and that they are cheaper than the independent schools. The schools, anxious to get these full-paying customers (or better athletes), are open to this if they have space available. That is after they perform their primary mission of educating the children of the parish or their alumni or the Catholic community at large. And their children are not going to be badly-treated. But it would be nice to read that non-Catholics on here considering a Catholic school actually developed an understanding of why these schools exist and who the people are that historically send their children to them and support the school. |
Anonymous
OK OK, I see that you have some sort of ax to grind about non-Catholics attending Catholic schools...the tone of your email is in poor taste and non-Christian-like. I am the Orthodox Christian PP. I attended a Catholic school for 6 years and was not allowed to take Communion. The priest was poorly educated. And this is not an arcane rule. It is based on the fact that our church is in Unity with the Catholic church and that we believe in transubstantiation. You seem to have a problem with this, and it is attitudes like yours that make people have disdain for the Catholic faith. I eventually married a Catholic and now embrace Catholicism and have two kids who attend Catholic schools. And guess what. Both of them were baptized in an Orthodox church and had their first communion at that time. So in a sense, their First Communion was their second communion. Bet that bothers you too. |
Anonymous
| Somebody has an ax to grind that is for sure. Sorry the priest at your school when you were a child 30+ years ago was uninformed but you really should let it go. |
Anonymous
No ax at all. I just find it fascinating at how some Catholics seem to act as though their faith is such an exclusive club. Sorry, but it is not. Pope Francis would never condone this attitude. |
Anonymous
The Catholic faith, the teachings of the Church, Catholic culture and the Catholic community are not "clubs". Your past history of being placed outside of it have you very sensitive about being included. But, I would think you would agree that the 45 minutes spent in Mass a week (or not) is just the tip of the iceberg when it comes to being a "Catholic". Poor Pope Francis. His utterances on a range of subjects are being seized upon by non-Catholics to either justify or support their own political leanings or to re-inforce the things they don't like about the Church and Catholics in general. |
Anonymous
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You all realize religion is a cult and most wars, disagreements, exclusions and judging others are all because of made-up religions rules and beliefs. It is follow the leader. You force your kids into your beliefs no different than an ISIS member forces and encourages others to follow theirs.
You can not possibly believe in evolution AND Adam and Eve. It was one or the other. Catholics can't say love thy neighbor but judge and ridicule people that aren't like them. It is such a joke. Even if there is some God out there, he certainly didn't want everyone breaking up into mini cults and fighting with everyone else all these years. I mean why are you Catholic and not Jewish, Buddist or Muslim? Is it truly the religion you know and understand and want to embrace 100% or were you forced to learn the religion, take communion, get confirmed, and abide by their rules so you just blindly did it? Some of those rules which are off the wall too. No birth control. No premarital sex, no divorce, no masturbation, and no baking cakes for gay couples. |
Anonymous
While you are correct that the Roman Catholic Church allows that the Orthodox church -- in which you were baptized and confirmed, does not allow that except in extreme circumstances. I find it hard to believe that any Orthodox member would receive communion on a regular basis in the Catholic church unless they lived in an area where there are no Orthodox churches and have approval from their Bishop to do this. |
Anonymous
So you believe all this and you are interested in sending your kids to a Catholic School? As far as I can tell there isn't enough "judgement" going on. Without it, people have decided that anything they want to do is just fine. And we are surrounded by the wreckage of the lives that this "no judgement" policy has wrought. Do what you want with your kids. We want ours in an environment where there is some judgement and some strictures on what's right and wrong. |
Anonymous
I assume then that you too have spoken to your priest about your circumstance. While you don't typically have to do RCIA when converting (which you seem to have done so you seem to be Catholic and not Orthodox any longer) from certain Orthodox churches some priests do require additional training before you are actually Catholic. |
Anonymous
Sorry, but you clearly misunderstand the Canon Law. The law that applies to Easter Orthodox churches is #3 below. The other laws apply to other Christian faiths. Can. 844 §1. Catholic ministers administer the sacraments licitly to Catholic members of the Christian faithful alone, who likewise receive them licitly from Catholic ministers alone, without prejudice to the prescripts of §§2, 3, and 4 of this canon, and ? can. 861, §2. §2. Whenever necessity requires it or true spiritual advantage suggests it, and provided that danger of error or of indifferentism is avoided, the Christian faithful for whom it is physically or morally impossible to approach a Catholic minister are permitted to receive the sacraments of penance, Eucharist, and anointing of the sick from non- Catholic ministers in whose Churches these sacraments are valid. §3. Catholic ministers administer the sacraments of penance, Eucharist, and anointing of the sick licitly to members of Eastern Churches which do not have full communion with the Catholic Church if they seek such on their own accord and are properly disposed. This is also valid for members of other Churches which in the judgment of the Apostolic See are in the same condition in regard to the sacraments as these Eastern Churches. §4. If the danger of death is present or if, in the judgment of the diocesan bishop or conference of bishops, some other grave necessity urges it, Catholic ministers administer these same sacraments licitly also to other Christians not having full communion with the Catholic Church, who cannot approach a minister of their own community and who seek such on their own accord, provided that they manifest Catholic faith in respect to these sacraments and are properly disposed. http://www.vatican.va/archive/ENG1104/_P2T.HTM |
Anonymous
No I did not convert. I am still Orthodox. The rest of my family is Catholic. The priest knows this. I do not need to convert to take Holy Communion. |
Anonymous
| And all these posts FIGHTING about what is right and wrong with your so-called-religion just makes me so happy to be an agnostic. Anyone considering sending their child to a religious school only needs to look at these petty arguments and judgements to see what they are getting involved with. |
Anonymous
Catholic hate never far from the surface on DCUM. |
Anonymous
| Im not bothering to read all of those pages, but definitely go for it. Catholic high schools are a far better choice than public or a non catholic private. Go for it |