Mom locks kid out on deck in 41 degree weather -- is this a crime?
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Anonymous
| A 10 yr old is awake and standing outside at 10:30 at night? Yeah, there's a problem there. |
Anonymous
One could argue that he was since he was on the other side of a locked patio door. But your being a pedantic asshole and you know exactly what I meant. |
Anonymous
No, I don't. "Behind closed doors" generally means something that's happening in private. Clearly the mother was not hiding what was happening. I imagine that before she locked him out, she said something like, "You can come back in when you're ready to apologize/pick up your clothes/clean the spaghetti off the wall" or whatever it was that got them to this point. I think what she did is a far cry from abuse. To make a leap that she was abusing him behind closed doors is absurd. |
Anonymous
Forgot to add "when you're ready to follow the rules" to the list of things I can imagine the mother might have said. I actually heard on the radio a few weeks ago the suggestion that locking a kid outside and telling them they can come back in when they are ready to follow the rules is effective. Unfortunately I heard that on a conservative Christian show, like Focus on the Family or some such. But in any event, it is a parenting strategy that is common enough to be suggested on the radio. |
Anonymous
+1. And the 12 year old answering the door late at night? Something is not right. If the kids were abused by their bio parents and the teacher adopted them, she probably has been dealing with a lot of challenges and I feel for her. But this is not the way to address it. As for whether it merited an arrest, it is quite possible that there is more to this story so I'm going to reserve judgment on that. |
Anonymous
Okay--but I have a 10- year old boy myself and I would never lock him outside of the house. WTF! |
Anonymous
PP here. I did state that I didn't necessarily agree with what the mom did. However, I live in a very safe neighborhood, with a fenced in yard, and gates that are locked. My 10 yr old DS is in bed by 9pm, so there would almost never be a situation where he'd be up at 10:30 and me arguing with him. BUT, if there was such a situation (like when we come home late from being out), and he were to argue with me about going to bed, back talking, giving me attitude, cursing at me, and so I put him in the backyard if he wanted to stay out late, doors locked, for 10min to teach him a lesson, I don't see how that is abuse. |
Anonymous
| How does she handle her students when they misbehave? |
Anonymous
That's weird to me. We had to 'go to our room', etc. but my parents never locked us out. Christ- my brother probably would have called their bluff and left the yard/house at that age... |
Anonymous
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We can guess but don't know what happened leading up to this. My normally well behaved 8 year old got really mad. He said he was running away and started walking down the driveway yelling in his boxers. We didn't chase him because we knew he'd come back in a minute. It was daytime and freezing out. It was over in 5 minutes and he apologized and said he was embarrassed for acting like a toddler. My point is it could have looked really bad if the neighbors saw my kid outside in his underware in the cold.
Maybe there is other stuff going on and that is why the neighbor called the police. Or maybe they overreacted. We don't know. We weren't there. |
Anonymous
| Personally I think letting a baby CIO is worse than this. It should be a crime. |
Anonymous
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Mom had him at 21-years old; his sister at 19-years old.
I read the link in OP's post. Momma sounds like a nut job. 10:30pm is pretty late, btw. |
Anonymous
It's a ridiculous overreaction- the kids are now with relatives and the mother lost her job amd is charged with a crime. She made a bad decision that would likely have left no lasting harm. Now the entire family is screwed. Neighbor should have talked with the family- not called the cops. I would knock in the door if I saw something like this-- then kept an eye out. |
Anonymous
| Child abuse, without a doubt. |
Anonymous
I'm dumbfounded by the "talk to the neighbor" comments. I get along well with the neighbors, but would be very reluctant to communicate directly with the neighbor here. She was clearly not rational in taking this action, and talking to irrationally angry (or batsh*t crazy) person likely to escalate the situation. Could have increased danger to kid (or created danger for me). I'd have given it 5-10 minutes to resolve, then called professionals to deal with situation. |