Does it bother you when neighbors use pesticides on their lawn?

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I have kids and a dog.. nobody is on the lawn after it has been sprayed.



This. Once dry, it is fine. FWIW, until you pay their mortgage you have no say OP. And to the one who converted their neighbor. Seriously? Told them to use an electric mower? LMAO My DH would roll eyes and carry on.........with his gas powered lawn mower. Get a grip


That stuff stinks for weeks. There is no way the toxicity goes away in hours.


Weeks? No. Over dramatizing doesn't help your argument.
Anonymous
Anonymous



And...
When DDT was banned, Africa saw a 600% increase in malaria cases. So, which is more deadly?
Africa opted to use DDT in order to control the malaria outbreak.

Actually they stop using DDT b/c the mosquito developed resistance. So no you are wrong, but don't let that stop you.

Genetic secret of mosquito resistance to DDT, bed net insecticides discovered
Date:
February 24, 2014
Source:
Liverpool School of Tropical Medicine
Summary:
A single genetic mutation causes resistance to DDT and pyrethroids (an insecticide class used in mosquito nets), new research concludes. With the continuing rise of resistance, the research is key as scientists say that this knowledge could help improve malaria control strategies. The researchers used a wide range of methods to narrow down how the resistance works, finding a single mutation in the GSTe2 gene, which makes insects break down DDT so it's no longer toxic. They have also shown that this gene makes insects resistant to pyrethroids raising the concern that GSTe2 gene could protect mosquitoes against the major insecticides used in public health.
Anonymous
I'll piggyback on 20:28's post on pesticide resistance. From http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/evolution/library/10/1/l_101_02.html :

Every time chemicals are sprayed on a lawn to kill weeds or ants for example, a few naturally resistant members of the targeted population survive and create a new generation of pests that are poison-resistant. That generation breeds another more-resistant generation; eventually, the pesticide may be rendered ineffective or even kill other wildlife or the very grass it was designed to protect.

In many ways, human actions are hastening pests' evolution of resistance. Farmers spray higher doses of pesticide if the traditional dose doesn't kill, so genetic mechanisms that enable the pests to survive the stronger doses rapidly become widespread as the offspring of resistant individuals come to dominate the population.


From the "Insecticide Resistance Action Committee" (Who knew such a thing existed?) http://www.irac-online.org/content/uploads/VM-Layout-v2.6_LR.pdf :

Although public health uses account for only a very small fraction of overall insecticide quantities applied, many vector species of public health importance have already developed resistance to one or more insecticides. Development of resistance is a complex and dynamic process and depends upon many factors. Most commonly, when the frequency of resistant insects in a vector population increases, efficacy of the treatment decreases up to the point where the insecticide has to be replaced by another one. Increasing the dosages in an attempt to maintain efficacy is not a recommended option because of environmental and safety concerns and increased cost of the insecticide. The resistance genes in the vector population may also be driven to even higher frequencies. Replacing an insecticide with a new one has important cost, logistic and sociological implications that will be discussed later. In addition, a significant reduction of morbidity and mortality can be achieved only if the efficacy of vector control interventions is continuously maintained at a very high level. [i]

West Nile is here already, and mosquitoes carrying Chikungunya are all over the Caribbean and have transmitted that virus to a handful of people in the U.S. in 2014. This used to be a tropical virus, along with Dengue. For the first time ever Chik virus can now be found in Florida mosquitoes.

We need to quit spraying for our convenience and save the insecticides for when we are having outbreaks of insect-borne disease only. Otherwise the mosquitoes carrying insecticide-resistant genes will overpopulate and we won't be able to kill those with anything...except another, stronger toxin.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:It wouldn't bother me if they used the pesticides on their toxic bamboo.


So you don't know what a pesticide is then ....
Anonymous
Pesticides have been linked to autism. It's bad enough that we have to contend with them in our food supply. I don't understand why people spray them in their yards, but my guess is that it will be banned eventually.

http://ehp.niehs.nih.gov/1307044/

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/autism-risk-higher-near-pesticide-treated-fields/
Anonymous
This. Once dry, it is fine. FWIW, until you pay their mortgage you have no say OP. And to the one who converted their neighbor. Seriously? Told them to use an electric mower? LMAO My DH would roll eyes and carry on.........with his gas powered lawn mower. Get a grip


So if you lived in a village where the water supply was the stream flowing by, you're the family who would shit upstream, proudly, and laugh at those who questioned you. Nice.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I have kids and a dog.. nobody is on the lawn after it has been sprayed.



This. Once dry, it is fine. FWIW, until you pay their mortgage you have no say OP. And to the one who converted their neighbor. Seriously? Told them to use an electric mower? LMAO My DH would roll eyes and carry on.........with his gas powered lawn mower. Get a grip


+1000
My DH would definitely roll his eyes. Then, continue with the gas powered lawn mower followed with the gas powered weed eater, then trim the hedges with the gas powered trimmer and top it off with using the gas powered chain saw to remove the dead branches.
You people need to find real problems to worry about.

Not really getting your response. Are you guys older?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:All this earth kumbaya crap really bugs me.

Does cancer bug you?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It wouldn't bother me if they used the pesticides on their toxic bamboo.


So you don't know what a pesticide is then ....


+1

Since when is bamboo toxic?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:All this earth kumbaya crap really bugs me.

Does cancer bug you?


+1

Survival of the Fittest is no joke.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I'll piggyback on 20:28's post on pesticide resistance. From http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/evolution/library/10/1/l_101_02.html :

Every time chemicals are sprayed on a lawn to kill weeds or ants for example, a few naturally resistant members of the targeted population survive and create a new generation of pests that are poison-resistant. That generation breeds another more-resistant generation; eventually, the pesticide may be rendered ineffective or even kill other wildlife or the very grass it was designed to protect.

In many ways, human actions are hastening pests' evolution of resistance. Farmers spray higher doses of pesticide if the traditional dose doesn't kill, so genetic mechanisms that enable the pests to survive the stronger doses rapidly become widespread as the offspring of resistant individuals come to dominate the population.


From the "Insecticide Resistance Action Committee" (Who knew such a thing existed?) http://www.irac-online.org/content/uploads/VM-Layout-v2.6_LR.pdf :

Although public health uses account for only a very small fraction of overall insecticide quantities applied, many vector species of public health importance have already developed resistance to one or more insecticides. Development of resistance is a complex and dynamic process and depends upon many factors. Most commonly, when the frequency of resistant insects in a vector population increases, efficacy of the treatment decreases up to the point where the insecticide has to be replaced by another one. Increasing the dosages in an attempt to maintain efficacy is not a recommended option because of environmental and safety concerns and increased cost of the insecticide. The resistance genes in the vector population may also be driven to even higher frequencies. Replacing an insecticide with a new one has important cost, logistic and sociological implications that will be discussed later. In addition, a significant reduction of morbidity and mortality can be achieved only if the efficacy of vector control interventions is continuously maintained at a very high level. [i]

West Nile is here already, and mosquitoes carrying Chikungunya are all over the Caribbean and have transmitted that virus to a handful of people in the U.S. in 2014. This used to be a tropical virus, along with Dengue. For the first time ever Chik virus can now be found in Florida mosquitoes.

We need to quit spraying for our convenience and save the insecticides for when we are having outbreaks of insect-borne disease only. Otherwise the mosquitoes carrying insecticide-resistant genes will overpopulate and we won't be able to kill those with anything...except another, stronger toxin.


+1

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:It wouldn't bother me if they used the pesticides on their toxic bamboo.


You, my friend, are a complete idiot.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:All this earth kumbaya crap really bugs me.

Does cancer bug you?


+1

Survival of the Fittest is no joke.

+2
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:It wouldn't bother me if they used the pesticides on their toxic bamboo.


YEAH! The irrational "fear of bamboo" poster is back! We missed you! :sarcasm:

Trust me, you have bigger problems than anyone's bamboo.
Anonymous
To answer your question OP, I don't care what neighbors do. As long as they are doing it on THEIR OWN property. You would be surprised.
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