So, what is wrong with Hardy?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Because brown kids. That's the only plausible explanation.

Lots of brown kids at Basis, Latin and Wilson, lots of Hardy IB kids too. Try again.

Agreed. In DC race baiting is the last refuge (and often the only argument) of scoundrels.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:For those who think that the IB parent population shuns Hardy because there are too many OOB (code for AA) kids---I think the reality is more complicated. Hardy appears to me--a high SES EOTP parent with kids at a charter---to have an OOB population of AA kids from middle class homes who clearly cared enough about their children's education to seek out the next best middle school in DC. It has also been my observation that the largest demographic group at the highly regarded charters such as Latin and Basis are also middle class AA kids. Yet white IB families who shun Hardy will happily send their kids to Basis or Latin-------so it would seem that IB families are not shunning Hardy solely because of racial discomfort. My guess is that those parents believe that the administration and faculty culture at Basis and Latin are more receptive to parental input and less DCPS bureaucratic than Hardy, which is a regular DCPS school.

But that is just my guess.

My experience with Ward 3 parents is that they don't "happily" send their kids to Basis, Latin, or even Hardy -- kids go to those schools because it's the best their parents can do, considering the options. With respect to Latin, and even moreso Basis, the most common complaint is that those schools have too much homework, but the kids can't get in anywhere else with a kinder curriculum. These are parents that compare their options with the 'burbs and they take what they can get -- Basis, Latin, or even (ugh!) Hardy - because for one reason or another they are invested in D.C.

What every Ward 3 parent wants, who can't get into Deal, is Deal. Deal for All is what they want -- surprised? And, those who are in Deal, want better than Deal, too, but they mortgages don't let them pay for private. You shouldn't be surprised that Deal parents want better than Deal, either. These are the most self-impressed parents in the United States. At some point, we all gotta settle for what we can get. "What? Toby only went to Duke and not Williams?! He better be happy you settled for HIM!"

I think what is so intriguing about Hardy is that many IB parents see Hardy as potentially being so much better than it currently is. So they gripe. Back to the Hardy thread!

Williams? Seriously? Your analogy just went off the rails.

Deal is no big deal, it's just the best DCPS can do. That's what you should have said.

And tell your alumni office that your son's lacrosse team would rather go to Duke, he personally would rather go to Bryn Mawr, but your dog is interested in Williams.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is that angry English teacher who led a revolt against Michelle Rhee's attempted changes at Hardy (and was also hostile to a higher IB enrollment) still teaching there?

This again? What, do you think she's going to give Fs to all the IB children and call them names?

Yes. She is not angry anymore, she is good with good students, and rigorous with so and so students, regardless of whether they are IB or OB.

She had a point about Rhee and Hardy; Rhee removed Pope without a plan B. The school remained without stable leadership for 5 years. Maybe Ms Henry was right about being angry.

At the time, she made it quite clear that she did not want to see a large number of IB students in Hardy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Deal is no big deal, it's just the best DCPS can do. That's what you should have said.

Can you, or someone else in the know, give me some insight into concrete "things", programs/processes/philosophy/amenities, that Deal does, making it "the best DCPS can do", other than the result, i.e. test scores?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Deal is no big deal, it's just the best DCPS can do. That's what you should have said.

Can you, or someone else in the know, give me some insight into concrete "things", programs/processes/philosophy/amenities, that Deal does, making it "the best DCPS can do", other than the result, i.e. test scores?

Rather than derail the Hardy thread (lest it grows 94 pages), I made a new thread with my question.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:For those who think that the IB parent population shuns Hardy because there are too many OOB (code for AA) kids---I think the reality is more complicated. Hardy appears to me--a high SES EOTP parent with kids at a charter---to have an OOB population of AA kids from middle class homes who clearly cared enough about their children's education to seek out the next best middle school in DC. It has also been my observation that the largest demographic group at the highly regarded charters such as Latin and Basis are also middle class AA kids. Yet white IB families who shun Hardy will happily send their kids to Basis or Latin-------so it would seem that IB families are not shunning Hardy solely because of racial discomfort. My guess is that those parents believe that the administration and faculty culture at Basis and Latin are more receptive to parental input and less DCPS bureaucratic than Hardy, which is a regular DCPS school.

But that is just my guess.

My experience with Ward 3 parents is that they don't "happily" send their kids to Basis, Latin, or even Hardy -- kids go to those schools because it's the best their parents can do, considering the options. With respect to Latin, and even moreso Basis, the most common complaint is that those schools have too much homework, but the kids can't get in anywhere else with a kinder curriculum. These are parents that compare their options with the 'burbs and they take what they can get -- Basis, Latin, or even (ugh!) Hardy - because for one reason or another they are invested in D.C.

What every Ward 3 parent wants, who can't get into Deal, is Deal. Deal for All is what they want -- surprised? And, those who are in Deal, want better than Deal, too, but they mortgages don't let them pay for private. You shouldn't be surprised that Deal parents want better than Deal, either. These are the most self-impressed parents in the United States. At some point, we all gotta settle for what we can get. "What? Toby only went to Duke and not Williams?! He better be happy you settled for HIM!"

I think what is so intriguing about Hardy is that many IB parents see Hardy as potentially being so much better than it currently is. So they gripe. Back to the Hardy thread!

Williams? Seriously? Your analogy just went off the rails.

Deal is no big deal, it's just the best DCPS can do. That's what you should have said.

And tell your alumni office that your son's lacrosse team would rather go to Duke, he personally would rather go to Bryn Mawr, but your dog is interested in Williams.

Respectfully, you have NO IDEA what you are talking about. Williams College is the NUMBER ONE liberal arts college in the united states. That's like, first, missy. Better than (snicker) Bryn Mawr, better than "Vandy," even better than lilly-white, southern snob, pretend-I'm-of-Ivy-quality Duke. Duke can't get over the fact that it's just trying to be as good as Cornell, but it can't because it's in the south and isn't even as good as a state school. Heck, even UVA is better than Duke.

[Anonymous]

Respectfully I think PPPP was joking and why are you so pompous PP?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Respectfully I think PPPP was joking and why are you so pompous PP?

I'm not pompous, I'm a Hardy supporter! Duke graduates and those of their ilk are the ones always picking on Hardy.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Respectfully I think PPPP was joking and why are you so pompous PP?

I'm not pompous, I'm a Hardy supporter! Duke graduates and those of their ilk are the ones always picking on Hardy.

You're an ass. Where did you attend? UDC?!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Respectfully I think PPPP was joking and why are you so pompous PP?

I'm not pompous, I'm a Hardy supporter! Duke graduates and those of their ilk are the ones always picking on Hardy.

Mmm not really. We have MIT, Yale, Univ. of Chicago, Stanford graduates among Hardy parents. I doubt parents with high human capital are picking on Hardy. It's more the more mediocre ones, the wanna be.

[Anonymous]

We are now zoned for Hardy, my kid is very athletic and I wonder where the Hardy kids play outdoor sports. It seems that the only outdoor space they have is a little micro-field next to the parking lot. Also, someone had asked before about why Hardy is the only school west of Rock Creek Park that has a big cell tower right on the roof. The radiation effects of cell phone towers remain a question, particularly on developing brains. How in the world did Hardy get stuck with an antenna, which no other Upper NW school parent body would ever tolerate?? Diid someone in DCPS get paid off, or just figure that the Hardy community wouldn't give a damn about it?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Respectfully I think PPPP was joking and why are you so pompous PP?

I'm not pompous, I'm a Hardy supporter! Duke graduates and those of their ilk are the ones always picking on Hardy.

Mmm not really. We have MIT, Yale, Univ. of Chicago, Stanford graduates among Hardy parents. I doubt parents with high human capital are picking on Hardy. It's more the more mediocre ones, the wanna be.

Exactly. Social-climbing Dookies and their ilk: Vandy; UVA; Penn State. MIT, Yale, Chicago graduates et al., are confident enough in their social status to send their kids to Hardy and not sweat it. Proud to be Hardy, REPRESENT!!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:For those who think that the IB parent population shuns Hardy because there are too many OOB (code for AA) kids---I think the reality is more complicated. Hardy appears to me--a high SES EOTP parent with kids at a charter---to have an OOB population of AA kids from middle class homes who clearly cared enough about their children's education to seek out the next best middle school in DC. It has also been my observation that the largest demographic group at the highly regarded charters such as Latin and Basis are also middle class AA kids. Yet white IB families who shun Hardy will happily send their kids to Basis or Latin-------so it would seem that IB families are not shunning Hardy solely because of racial discomfort. My guess is that those parents believe that the administration and faculty culture at Basis and Latin are more receptive to parental input and less DCPS bureaucratic than Hardy, which is a regular DCPS school.

But that is just my guess.

My experience with Ward 3 parents is that they don't "happily" send their kids to Basis, Latin, or even Hardy -- kids go to those schools because it's the best their parents can do, considering the options. With respect to Latin, and even moreso Basis, the most common complaint is that those schools have too much homework, but the kids can't get in anywhere else with a kinder curriculum. These are parents that compare their options with the 'burbs and they take what they can get -- Basis, Latin, or even (ugh!) Hardy - because for one reason or another they are invested in D.C.

What every Ward 3 parent wants, who can't get into Deal, is Deal. Deal for All is what they want -- surprised? And, those who are in Deal, want better than Deal, too, but they mortgages don't let them pay for private. You shouldn't be surprised that Deal parents want better than Deal, either. These are the most self-impressed parents in the United States. At some point, we all gotta settle for what we can get. "What? Toby only went to Duke and not Williams?! He better be happy you settled for HIM!"

I think what is so intriguing about Hardy is that many IB parents see Hardy as potentially being so much better than it currently is. So they gripe. Back to the Hardy thread!

Williams? Seriously? Your analogy just went off the rails.

Deal is no big deal, it's just the best DCPS can do. That's what you should have said.

And tell your alumni office that your son's lacrosse team would rather go to Duke, he personally would rather go to Bryn Mawr, but your dog is interested in Williams.

Respectfully, you have NO IDEA what you are talking about. Williams College is the NUMBER ONE liberal arts college in the united states. That's like, first, missy. Better than (snicker) Bryn Mawr, better than "Vandy," even better than lilly-white, southern snob, pretend-I'm-of-Ivy-quality Duke. Duke can't get over the fact that it's just trying to be as good as Cornell, but it can't because it's in the south and isn't even as good as a state school. Heck, even UVA is better than Duke.

If you have to explain, then it's pretty clear nobody cares.

(Silly me, I thought Harvard or Yale was number one. If only I'd known about WILLIAMS!)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:For those who think that the IB parent population shuns Hardy because there are too many OOB (code for AA) kids---I think the reality is more complicated. Hardy appears to me--a high SES EOTP parent with kids at a charter---to have an OOB population of AA kids from middle class homes who clearly cared enough about their children's education to seek out the next best middle school in DC. It has also been my observation that the largest demographic group at the highly regarded charters such as Latin and Basis are also middle class AA kids. Yet white IB families who shun Hardy will happily send their kids to Basis or Latin-------so it would seem that IB families are not shunning Hardy solely because of racial discomfort. My guess is that those parents believe that the administration and faculty culture at Basis and Latin are more receptive to parental input and less DCPS bureaucratic than Hardy, which is a regular DCPS school.

But that is just my guess.

My experience with Ward 3 parents is that they don't "happily" send their kids to Basis, Latin, or even Hardy -- kids go to those schools because it's the best their parents can do, considering the options. With respect to Latin, and even moreso Basis, the most common complaint is that those schools have too much homework, but the kids can't get in anywhere else with a kinder curriculum. These are parents that compare their options with the 'burbs and they take what they can get -- Basis, Latin, or even (ugh!) Hardy - because for one reason or another they are invested in D.C.

What every Ward 3 parent wants, who can't get into Deal, is Deal. Deal for All is what they want -- surprised? And, those who are in Deal, want better than Deal, too, but they mortgages don't let them pay for private. You shouldn't be surprised that Deal parents want better than Deal, either. These are the most self-impressed parents in the United States. At some point, we all gotta settle for what we can get. "What? Toby only went to Duke and not Williams?! He better be happy you settled for HIM!"

I think what is so intriguing about Hardy is that many IB parents see Hardy as potentially being so much better than it currently is. So they gripe. Back to the Hardy thread!

Williams? Seriously? Your analogy just went off the rails.

Deal is no big deal, it's just the best DCPS can do. That's what you should have said.

And tell your alumni office that your son's lacrosse team would rather go to Duke, he personally would rather go to Bryn Mawr, but your dog is interested in Williams.

Respectfully, you have NO IDEA what you are talking about. Williams College is the NUMBER ONE liberal arts college in the united states. That's like, first, missy. Better than (snicker) Bryn Mawr, better than "Vandy," even better than lilly-white, southern snob, pretend-I'm-of-Ivy-quality Duke. Duke can't get over the fact that it's just trying to be as good as Cornell, but it can't because it's in the south and isn't even as good as a state school. Heck, even UVA is better than Duke.

If you have to explain, then it's pretty clear nobody cares.

(Silly me, I thought Harvard or Yale was number one. If only I'd known about WILLIAMS!)

This is supposed to be a thread about Hardy. But for what it's worth, the US News survey pretty consistently ranks Williams as the no 1 SLAC in the US, with Princeton (sometimes with Yale tying) as the no. 1 university.

[Anonymous]

Is the IB student percentage at Hardy still stuck around 13%? If so, that really sucks.