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Anonymous wrote:The largest public housing unit is on Capitol Hill (Potomac Gardens). The neighborhood blocks will never have the baby boom on what a housing project can produce. DCPS knows this and that's why the SES residents don't even come up as a blip on Kaya ' s radar. Why hell every superintendent/Chancellor has ignored that 10 block radius pretty regularly.

This will likely be torn down soon like all of the other concentrated public housing buildings. Talks about relocating these residents into mixed-income housing (to improve the residents' lifestyles admist the crime around their homes) have been going on for years.

I've heard rumblings. The question is not if but when.

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If you are rich enough to buy a $1 million home you are rich enough to pay a consultant to help you narrow down school options.

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Anonymous wrote:The largest public housing unit is on Capitol Hill (Potomac Gardens). The neighborhood blocks will never have the baby boom on what a housing project can produce. DCPS knows this and that's why the SES residents don't even come up as a blip on Kaya ' s radar. Why hell every superintendent/Chancellor has ignored that 10 block radius pretty regularly.

This will likely be torn down soon like all of the other concentrated public housing buildings. Talks about relocating these residents into mixed-income housing (to improve the residents' lifestyles admist the crime around their homes) have been going on for years.

I've heard rumblings. The question is not if but when.

This is incorrect!

[Anonymous]

This is the time of year that most schools seem to have open houses for prospective parents - I'd stop by some and see what you think. That may also give you a better sense of what the overall trajectory of a school is, what leadership is like, etc.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is the time of year thast schools seem to have open houses for prospective parents - I'd stop by some and see what you think. That may also give you a better sense of what the overall trajectory of a school is, what leadership is like, etc.

This is a really good point. And two of the elementaries in the SW and Capitol Hill neighborhoods you mentioned liking just announced by right (no lottery) preK. But they're also schools with performance challenges, so you'd want to look closely.

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Anonymous wrote:The largest public housing unit is on Capitol Hill (Potomac Gardens). The neighborhood blocks will never have the baby boom on what a housing project can produce. DCPS knows this and that's why the SES residents don't even come up as a blip on Kaya ' s radar. Why hell every superintendent/Chancellor has ignored that 10 block radius pretty regularly.

This will likely be torn down soon like all of the other concentrated public housing buildings. Talks about relocating these residents into mixed-income housing (to improve the residents' lifestyles admist the crime around their homes) have been going on for years.

I've heard rumblings. The question is not if but when.

It would make more sense to relocate public housing in SW (Syphax, Greenleaf, Carroll) given all of the development on the Waterfront and Navy Yard, but ironically there seems to be a lack of foresight and planning and the Housing Authority has apparently recently made capital improvements on those units rather than seizing the opportunity to tap into other ongoing development projects as opportunities to de-concentrate and de-segregate those low-SES pockets, which are rapidly becoming more and more out-of-place.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The largest public housing unit is on Capitol Hill (Potomac Gardens). The neighborhood blocks will never have the baby boom on what a housing project can produce. DCPS knows this and that's why the SES residents don't even come up as a blip on Kaya ' s radar. Why hell every superintendent/Chancellor has ignored that 10 block radius pretty regularly.

This will likely be torn down soon like all of the other concentrated public housing buildings. Talks about relocating these residents into mixed-income housing (to improve the residents' lifestyles admist the crime around their homes) have been going on for years.

I've heard rumblings. The question is not if but when.

It would make more sense to relocate public housing in SW (Syphax, Greenleaf, Carroll) given all of the development on the Waterfront and Navy Yard, but ironically there seems to be a lack of foresight and planning and the Housing Authority has apparently recently made capital improvements on those units rather than seizing the opportunity to tap into other ongoing development projects as opportunities to de-concentrate and de-segregate those low-SES pockets, which are rapidly becoming more and more out-of-place.

When the city convened planning and stakeholder input meetings this spring/summer for the SW Neighborhood plan, SW residents were strongly opposed to removing the public housing. They wanted low income residents to be able to remain in place throughout development in the neighborhood and valued the economic diversity of the quadrant.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The largest public housing unit is on Capitol Hill (Potomac Gardens). The neighborhood blocks will never have the baby boom on what a housing project can produce. DCPS knows this and that's why the SES residents don't even come up as a blip on Kaya ' s radar. Why hell every superintendent/Chancellor has ignored that 10 block radius pretty regularly.

This will likely be torn down soon like all of the other concentrated public housing buildings. Talks about relocating these residents into mixed-income housing (to improve the residents' lifestyles admist the crime around their homes) have been going on for years.

I've heard rumblings. The question is not if but when.

This is incorrect!

The H St. Corridor is one of the Great Streets initiatives and hundreds of millions of dollars are being invested in this area. Gentrification is happening at a rapid pace (not that I'm a fan) but there are lots of demands being made of the developers and big retail businesses coming into the neighborhood. Yes, the public housing will not exist in its current form. The residents will be moved into the many hundreds of apartment buildings in the area currently being built. There are a percentage of set-asides in each apartment building for these residents. It's very easy to relocate them within a few blocks of where they currently live.

Why do you think this is incorrect? These discussions have been gong on with developers for some time.

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Anonymous wrote:The largest public housing unit is on Capitol Hill (Potomac Gardens). The neighborhood blocks will never have the baby boom on what a housing project can produce. DCPS knows this and that's why the SES residents don't even come up as a blip on Kaya ' s radar. Why hell every superintendent/Chancellor has ignored that 10 block radius pretty regularly.

This will likely be torn down soon like all of the other concentrated public housing buildings. Talks about relocating these residents into mixed-income housing (to improve the residents' lifestyles admist the crime around their homes) have been going on for years.

I've heard rumblings. The question is not if but when.

It would make more sense to relocate public housing in SW (Syphax, Greenleaf, Carroll) given all of the development on the Waterfront and Navy Yard, but ironically there seems to be a lack of foresight and planning and the Housing Authority has apparently recently made capital improvements on those units rather than seizing the opportunity to tap into other ongoing development projects as opportunities to de-concentrate and de-segregate those low-SES pockets, which are rapidly becoming more and more out-of-place.

When the city convened planning and stakeholder input meetings this spring/summer for the SW Neighborhood plan, SW residents were strongly opposed to removing the public housing. They wanted low income residents to be able to remain in place throughout development in the neighborhood and valued the economic diversity of the quadrant.

That's a misguided generality and they obviously didn't connect with many other SW residents. My guess is that they only asked the folks who were currently residing in the housing projects.

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Anonymous wrote:The largest public housing unit is on Capitol Hill (Potomac Gardens). The neighborhood blocks will never have the baby boom on what a housing project can produce. DCPS knows this and that's why the SES residents don't even come up as a blip on Kaya ' s radar. Why hell every superintendent/Chancellor has ignored that 10 block radius pretty regularly.

This will likely be torn down soon like all of the other concentrated public housing buildings. Talks about relocating these residents into mixed-income housing (to improve the residents' lifestyles admist the crime around their homes) have been going on for years.

I've heard rumblings. The question is not if but when.

It would make more sense to relocate public housing in SW (Syphax, Greenleaf, Carroll) given all of the development on the Waterfront and Navy Yard, but ironically there seems to be a lack of foresight and planning and the Housing Authority has apparently recently made capital improvements on those units rather than seizing the opportunity to tap into other ongoing development projects as opportunities to de-concentrate and de-segregate those low-SES pockets, which are rapidly becoming more and more out-of-place.

When the city convened planning and stakeholder input meetings this spring/summer for the SW Neighborhood plan, SW residents were strongly opposed to removing the public housing. They wanted low income residents to be able to remain in place throughout development in the neighborhood and valued the economic diversity of the quadrant.

That's a misguided generality and they obviously didn't connect with many other SW residents. My guess is that they only asked the folks who were currently residing in the housing projects.

No, there were a lot of people who didn't live in public housing who said the same thing. However, the desire of most people wasn't to have the public housing stay exactly as it is--it was to add mixed-income housing on publicly-owned land in the area (DMV office and inspection station, post office, etc.), then redevelop current public housing sites as mixed-income, so people didn't have to leave the neighborhood but there would still be an end to concentrated subsidized housing. It's called a build-first option. There are definitely public housing residents who want the current model to stay the same (and research shows some real pros and cons to mixed-income housing for poor people, though it is definitely better for the broader community) but the SW Small Area Plan is pretty enthusiastic about redeveloping Greenleaf in this way. However, DCHA has woefully mismanaged many similar projects (Temple Courts, Park Morton, Barry Farm, and to a lesser extent Capper Carrollsburg) and that plus the fact that HUD steers its redevelopment funds to more blighted areas and SW is getting a lot of private investment makes it hard. I think it will happen eventually though.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We are new to the area and have a 1 year old and we are trying to figure which DC schools are actually acceptable. Where do I find this information?

I went to the cluster schools (Peabody, Watkins, and Stuart-Hobson) on the Hill. I hear things have improved.

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AU Park with Janney Elementary is the most sought after school in town. It is only draws from the neighborhood. Janney is the " private" public school. Red line metro is right there.

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Anonymous wrote:The largest public housing unit is on Capitol Hill (Potomac Gardens). The neighborhood blocks will never have the baby boom on what a housing project can produce. DCPS knows this and that's why the SES residents don't even come up as a blip on Kaya ' s radar. Why hell every superintendent/Chancellor has ignored that 10 block radius pretty regularly.

This will likely be torn down soon like all of the other concentrated public housing buildings. Talks about relocating these residents into mixed-income housing (to improve the residents' lifestyles admist the crime around their homes) have been going on for years.

I've heard rumblings. The question is not if but when.

It would make more sense to relocate public housing in SW (Syphax, Greenleaf, Carroll) given all of the development on the Waterfront and Navy Yard, but ironically there seems to be a lack of foresight and planning and the Housing Authority has apparently recently made capital improvements on those units rather than seizing the opportunity to tap into other ongoing development projects as opportunities to de-concentrate and de-segregate those low-SES pockets, which are rapidly becoming more and more out-of-place.

When the city convened planning and stakeholder input meetings this spring/summer for the SW Neighborhood plan, SW residents were strongly opposed to removing the public housing. They wanted low income residents to be able to remain in place throughout development in the neighborhood and valued the economic diversity of the quadrant.

That's a misguided generality and they obviously didn't connect with many other SW residents. My guess is that they only asked the folks who were currently residing in the housing projects.

No, there were a lot of people who didn't live in public housing who said the same thing. However, the desire of most people wasn't to have the public housing stay exactly as it is--it was to add mixed-income housing on publicly-owned land in the area (DMV office and inspection station, post office, etc.), then redevelop current public housing sites as mixed-income, so people didn't have to leave the neighborhood but there would still be an end to concentrated subsidized housing. It's called a build-first option. There are definitely public housing residents who want the current model to stay the same (and research shows some real pros and cons to mixed-income housing for poor people, though it is definitely better for the broader community) but the SW Small Area Plan is pretty enthusiastic about redeveloping Greenleaf in this way. However, DCHA has woefully mismanaged many similar projects (Temple Courts, Park Morton, Barry Farm, and to a lesser extent Capper Carrollsburg) and that plus the fact that HUD steers its redevelopment funds to more blighted areas and SW is getting a lot of private investment makes it hard. I think it will happen eventually though.

You're talking about two entirely different things, and I don't think DCHA is at all on track with breaking up the concentration of subsidized housing, given that they are making capital improvements on those existing concentrated housing projects rather than leveraging all the new development that is ongoing.

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Anonymous wrote:The largest public housing unit is on Capitol Hill (Potomac Gardens). The neighborhood blocks will never have the baby boom on what a housing project can produce. DCPS knows this and that's why the SES residents don't even come up as a blip on Kaya ' s radar. Why hell every superintendent/Chancellor has ignored that 10 block radius pretty regularly.

This will likely be torn down soon like all of the other concentrated public housing buildings. Talks about relocating these residents into mixed-income housing (to improve the residents' lifestyles admist the crime around their homes) have been going on for years.

I've heard rumblings. The question is not if but when.

It would make more sense to relocate public housing in SW (Syphax, Greenleaf, Carroll) given all of the development on the Waterfront and Navy Yard, but ironically there seems to be a lack of foresight and planning and the Housing Authority has apparently recently made capital improvements on those units rather than seizing the opportunity to tap into other ongoing development projects as opportunities to de-concentrate and de-segregate those low-SES pockets, which are rapidly becoming more and more out-of-place.

When the city convened planning and stakeholder input meetings this spring/summer for the SW Neighborhood plan, SW residents were strongly opposed to removing the public housing. They wanted low income residents to be able to remain in place throughout development in the neighborhood and valued the economic diversity of the quadrant.

That's a misguided generality and they obviously didn't connect with many other SW residents. My guess is that they only asked the folks who were currently residing in the housing projects.

No, that was my read of the consensus among people who attended the community planning meetings at Arena and Capitol Skyline. SW really does have a long track record of a committment to diversity and housing access.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:AU Park with Janney Elementary is the most sought after school in town. It is only draws from the neighborhood. Janney is the " private" public school. Red line metro is right there.

How on earth does drawing from the neighborhood make it a private school? Is Somerset Elem. a private school?