What kind of believer are you?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:^^^That when you die you will be treated well and see your family again.

what if you hated your family, or never even knew them? Maybe Jesus will let you spend eternity with the people from the neighborhood bar that you liked so much? What if you get tired of them eventually? Can you request a transfer to another part of heaven?

[Anonymous]

Muslima wrote:You must truly be delusional, on drugs or just the most ignorant person on the internet if you believe everything that you wrote. Do you really think that I as a Muslim, am so scared of what an anonymous is writing on a public forum that i am being peaceful, lol ? I told you "Peace" because I do not argue/discuss with the ignoramus, I choose to use my time for other things and as such this will be my last response to you on this. And if for nothing else than politeness, stop trolling this thread. The question posed by the OP was "What kind of believer are you"? Peace!

My dear friend, you should wish her peace because God (Allah, Brahman, Spirit, creator, nature,, Good, Source, whatever name you call God) tells us to love one another. We are called to love by Divine order. We are to love even when it's so very hard to do. As a Christian I find it most difficult to love the type of poster you are arguing with. She is so busy being "right" that she misses the whole point of the Christ she claims to love.

This is an opportunity to simply love. To open your heart and allow your love to expand. When people of all faiths learn to truly love, we will live in a very different world.

The divine light in me honors the divine light in you.

[Muslima]

Anonymous wrote:

Muslima wrote:You must truly be delusional, on drugs or just the most ignorant person on the internet if you believe everything that you wrote. Do you really think that I as a Muslim, am so scared of what an anonymous is writing on a public forum that i am being peaceful, lol ? I told you "Peace" because I do not argue/discuss with the ignoramus, I choose to use my time for other things and as such this will be my last response to you on this. And if for nothing else than politeness, stop trolling this thread. The question posed by the OP was "What kind of believer are you"? Peace!

My dear friend, you should wish her peace because God (Allah, Brahman, Spirit, creator, nature,, Good, Source, whatever name you call God) tells us to love one another. We are called to love by Divine order. We are to love even when it's so very hard to do. As a Christian I find it most difficult to love the type of poster you are arguing with. She is so busy being "right" that she misses the whole point of the Christ she claims to love.

This is an opportunity to simply love. To open your heart and allow your love to expand. When people of all faiths learn to truly love, we will live in a very different world.

The divine light in me honors the divine light in you.

Thank you for this important lesson in Love.A believer who loves God is expected to love His people and be kind to them regardless of how hard it can be sometimes, this is something I have to remind myself often, so thank you for this beautiful reminder. May you be blessed, Ma salaam ( With peace) !

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

As a Muslim, I believe in the 6 articles of faith in Islam:

4. Belief in The Prophets of God
Muslims must believe in all the Messengers and Prophets of God such as Adam, Noah, Moses, Solomon, Jesus and Muhammad saw who were human beings endowed with His Revelations and appointed by God to teach mankind how to worship and obey Allah.

This is impossible. It is like saying "I believe when I turn on the light switch the light comes on but I also believe when I turn on the light switch the light goes off too." It is nonsense. The Revelations of Jesus and the Revelations of Muhammad contradict one another, so either a) one is true and one is false or b) both are false. They both cannot be true.

from http://www.faithfacts.org/world-religions-and-theology/christianity-vs.-islam
Islam...denies that Jesus died on the cross at all (Sura 4:157)—this in spite of overwhelming evidence both from the Bible and from historical sources outside the Bible. It denies that Jesus conquered death by his bodily resurrection—an historical event acknowledged by rigorous critical scholarship (www.faithfacts.org/easter.html). Islam must deny these things because the religion is based on the idea that you can earn your way to heaven.

Christianity teaches that our salvation is a free gift through faith alone in Jesus Christ—and specifically not by works (Ephesians 2:8-9; Romans 4:1-3; Titus 3:5-7; 1 Corinthians 1:29). Islam teaches that one gains entrance into heaven by your works in addition to faith (but not faith in Christ). These are clearly opposing positions.

So you have a dilemma. You must study and determine which one is true, and guess which one will chop off your head if you
decide a certain way? Guess which one?

I personally believe Islam is nothing more than the cult of Muhammad, who was a murderer http://faithfreedom.org/challenge/massmurderer.htm and a pedophile.
(Sahih Muslim 3309, Bukhari 58:236)

Pedophile:Bukhari 58:236 Khadija died three years before the Prophet departed to Medina. He stayed there for two years or so and then he married 'Aisha when she was a girl of six years of age, and he consumed that marriage when she was nine years old.

This is outrageous and disgusting. It is similar wicked behavior of Joseph Smith who formed the cult of Mormonism.

Both Muhammad and Joseph "Con-man" Smith were sons of their father Satan. They are tares among the wheat.

Written by someone trying to make Christians look bad, right?

[Anonymous]

I have evolved enough in my faith that I no longer have to say, "I believe, help my unbelief. " I simply believe.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:^^^That when you die you will be treated well and see your family again.

You mean I'm going to have to spend eternity listening to my parents go on and in about the awful state of the world and how their favorite Italian restaurants are cutting back on portion size!!??

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^^^That when you die you will be treated well and see your family again.

You mean I'm going to have to spend eternity listening to my parents go on and in about the awful state of the world and how their favorite Italian restaurants are cutting back on portion size!!??

In heaven, all the Italian restaurants serve huge portions.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I do believe that God is great enough for me to not worship him/her. I see nature as a system that God created that works on autopilot.

I also believe that you reap what you sow. Each and every action of yours will have a consequence. I believe that if you harm someone, you will pay for it, regardless of is you have accepted God in your life or not. I also believe that good and bad deeds do not cancel each other out. If you do good and do evil, you will get the fruit of both actions.

Thus, I have a problem with people when they say that "Jesus has forgiven them" or that "Allah has a place in heaven for martyrs".

This is me. I believe in a natural transfer of energy - including souls, spirits, prayer. Some energies are purer than others, but there is always a reaction to the transfer of energy. The sum of all good energy/spirit is God. The sum of all that is evil is what most would call the devil.

[takoma]

OP here. I guess I left out one very important type of believer (or non-believer): The self-righteous one who thinks s/he has all the answers and scoffs at those who do not agree.

[Anonymous]

takoma wrote:OP here. I guess I left out one very important type of believer (or non-believer): The self-righteous one who thinks s/he has all the answers and scoffs at those who do not agree.

That's the reality of Religion. You can't compromise, you're either trying to convert someone or you're being converted. You can't have a potpourri of beliefs and still belong. And having a potpourri of beliefs is the main reason new or spin off Religions are created.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

takoma wrote:OP here. I guess I left out one very important type of believer (or non-believer): The self-righteous one who thinks s/he has all the answers and scoffs at those who do not agree.

That's the reality of Religion. You can't compromise, you're either trying to convert someone or you're being converted. You can't have a potpourri of beliefs and still belong. And having a potpourri of beliefs is the main reason new or spin off Religions are created.

Many of the posters on here disagree with you, thank God! (No, I'm not a believer, but I know of no other phrase in English that expresses that emotion as well.)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I do believe that God is great enough for me to not worship him/her. I see nature as a system that God created that works on autopilot.

I also believe that you reap what you sow. Each and every action of yours will have a consequence. I believe that if you harm someone, you will pay for it, regardless of is you have accepted God in your life or not. I also believe that good and bad deeds do not cancel each other out. If you do good and do evil, you will get the fruit of both actions.

Thus, I have a problem with people when they say that "Jesus has forgiven them" or that "Allah has a place in heaven for martyrs".

This is me. I believe in a natural transfer of energy - including souls, spirits, prayer. Some energies are purer than others, but there is always a reaction to the transfer of energy. The sum of all good energy/spirit is God. The sum of all that is evil is what most would call the devil.

Sound like you are a SBNR -- spiritual but not religious -- part of the fastest growing religious group in the US - the "nones" - which also includes atheists, agnostics and "Nothings"