When the dream school(s) isn't/aren't affordable

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University of South Carolina has an awesome honors program, is located in the state capital and gives great merit $$. You just need to keep looking.


Second this. My son got instate tuition with a 4.0 weighted (3.3 unweighted) 9 AP and 31 ACT
Number one ranked international business school in the country


LOL. very funny

Yep, ranked #1 by USNWR. 17 years in a row.


Irrelevant ranking.

better ranking: Which undergrad business colleges send the most kids to the best business jobs out of UG: MBB strategy, S&T/IB, or buyside finance.


Please note the international in "international business school." That doesn't mean it's the best business school, it means it's the best school for getting an international business degree. It's actually a great program and I know people who went there and got amazing jobs out of the program. But saying it's "located in the state capital" is misleading. It's not what I would call urban. Columbia has tumbleweeds it's so empty.

It isn't misleading to state a fact: U of South Carolina is located in the state capital. If you assume that means it meets your definition of urban, that's on you.
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What about Pepperdine? It's not Jesuit, but Christian, has a marketing major, would make you marketable in the west coast, and from what I understand does give aid.
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Anonymous wrote:University of South Carolina has an awesome honors program, is located in the state capital and gives great merit $$. You just need to keep looking.


Second this. My son got instate tuition with a 4.0 weighted (3.3 unweighted) 9 AP and 31 ACT
Number one ranked international business school in the country


LOL. very funny

Yep, ranked #1 by USNWR. 17 years in a row.


What a joke!


Actually, as someone working in international business I can tell you that USC's international business school is well known and highly regarded.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
University of South Carolina has an awesome honors program, is located in the state capital and gives great merit $$. You just need to keep looking.


Second this. My son got instate tuition with a 4.0 weighted (3.3 unweighted) 9 AP and 31 ACT
Number one ranked international business school in the country


LOL. very funny

Yep, ranked #1 by USNWR. 17 years in a row.


Irrelevant ranking.

better ranking: Which undergrad business colleges send the most kids to the best business jobs out of UG: MBB strategy, S&T/IB, or buyside finance.


Please note the international in "international business school." That doesn't mean it's the best business school, it means it's the best school for getting an international business degree. It's actually a great program and I know people who went there and got amazing jobs out of the program. But saying it's "located in the state capital" is misleading. It's not what I would call urban. Columbia has tumbleweeds it's so empty.

It isn't misleading to state a fact: U of South Carolina is located in the state capital. If you assume that means it meets your definition of urban, that's on you.


The first mentioned criteria was "urban" and PP touted the school as "located in the state capital." What other reason would there possibly be to mention that it's in the state capital? So the kid could be close to the exciting seat of state government? I'M not assuming anything, because I've actually visited Columbia. I was merely trying to be helpful to OP.
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Anonymous wrote:What about Pepperdine? It's not Jesuit, but Christian, has a marketing major, would make you marketable in the west coast, and from what I understand does give aid.


Pepperdine would have to give a hell of a lot of aid to be pushed into the "affordable" category!
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Anonymous wrote:Has anyone dealt with this? DD's top 5 choices are all priced way too steeply and unless some serious financial aid comes through, it's not going to happen. Of course, the worst part is, is that based on her stats, she could get into all of them pretty easily.

She really, really disliked high school (despite trying her absolute hardest to make it work) and now is faced with having limited college options and I think is feeling really, really defeated...


There are just so many great schools out there that not getting to go to the 5 she likes best really isn't "limited college options." I got into my first choice, but when the aid came through, we knew it was out of reach. It was awful, especially for my parents because it was a twist of the knife in a painful family tragedy that made it financially out of reach. But the school that gave me the most aid, while it didn't at all fit my "criteria" and from which I had every intention of transferring out of ASAP, was actually really wonderful. College is what you make of it, and no matter where you go, you do have a chance to become what you want to be. Sometimes the road less travelled leads to great places.
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Anonymous wrote:What about UW-Madison? Obviously not Jesuit, but it's sorta urban, has name-brand recognition, and is a fun school overall. And if you're in WI, in-state tuition makes it a great deal...

As a Catholic, I like the Jesuits too but in all honesty, there's opportunities for service at every single college in the US. I wouldn't limit the search to just Jesuit/Catholic because she wants to give back to the community.


+1 if you live in Wisconsin, Madison is the obvious choice.


Totally agree. I couldnt pass up an affordable degree from a really good public university. No debt! That's a gift.
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Anonymous wrote:What about UW-Madison? Obviously not Jesuit, but it's sorta urban, has name-brand recognition, and is a fun school overall. And if you're in WI, in-state tuition makes it a great deal...

As a Catholic, I like the Jesuits too but in all honesty, there's opportunities for service at every single college in the US. I wouldn't limit the search to just Jesuit/Catholic because she wants to give back to the community.


+1 if you live in Wisconsin, Madison is the obvious choice.


Totally agree. I couldnt pass up an affordable degree from a really good public university. No debt! That's a gift.
What was the tuition then?
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USC has a 5 year program in international business where half of the coursework is taken in Chinese in Hong Kong and SHanghai. Internships in global business in CHina. I've never seen anything like it. I was bitterly disappointed that my child did not choose to apply to this program.

Sometimes a big state university simply has the resources that a Williams or an Amherst won't have.

I have heard that Temple University in Philadelphia has tons of merit aid -- Isn't that Catholic?
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Anonymous wrote:USC has a 5 year program in international business where half of the coursework is taken in Chinese in Hong Kong and SHanghai. Internships in global business in CHina. I've never seen anything like it. I was bitterly disappointed that my child did not choose to apply to this program.

Sometimes a big state university simply has the resources that a Williams or an Amherst won't have.

I have heard that Temple University in Philadelphia has tons of merit aid -- Isn't that Catholic?
Wow! I will give this information to my high school junior who has been studying Chinese language for 8 years and plans on continuing in college though not majoring in Chinese
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Besides my own college choice, I have been through this process with 3 of my 4 kids. I do not want to suggest certain schools but I do think that you and your DD might want to tweak your thinking about the process in light of how a teen's mind works. Based on your OP, your said that DD might be defeated if her dream school did not come through. In her mind, it is all or nothing. Victory or defeat. But it is not that absolute. The best advice I got was from my HS guidance counselor who said something like "Those are some good criteria for looking at colleges - now rank those criteria!" His rationale was you might not get your top 5 factors in one school, but you might get the top 2-3. So, she can internalize what is the most improtant thing she wants in a college and what, if push came to shove, she could live without.

You say that your DD wants to attend a Jesuit school. Ok. One of my DD's attend a Catholic college (different order) and I can tell you that the religion component is not an overwhelming aspect of campus life - unless a person chooses that route. And TBH, a person could choose that same regariding religion at a big big secular school. Most big schools have fairly developed Christian and Catholic fellowship organizations.
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Anonymous wrote:USC has a 5 year program in international business where half of the coursework is taken in Chinese in Hong Kong and SHanghai. Internships in global business in CHina. I've never seen anything like it. I was bitterly disappointed that my child did not choose to apply to this program.

Sometimes a big state university simply has the resources that a Williams or an Amherst won't have.

I have heard that Temple University in Philadelphia has tons of merit aid -- Isn't that Catholic?



Temple does have amazing merit aid. With very good grades and high scores you will get full tuition. With good grades/scores you may get $18,000 in merit aid. (All merit aid info is on their website) It's also urban, diverse, large and has a good business school. It's a state school (not catholic) so even without merit aid it's less expensive than most private schools (about 25,000 OOS).
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Anonymous wrote:USC has a 5 year program in international business where half of the coursework is taken in Chinese in Hong Kong and SHanghai. Internships in global business in CHina. I've never seen anything like it. I was bitterly disappointed that my child did not choose to apply to this program.

Sometimes a big state university simply has the resources that a Williams or an Amherst won't have.

I have heard that Temple University in Philadelphia has tons of merit aid -- Isn't that Catholic?



Temple does have amazing merit aid. With very good grades and high scores you will get full tuition. With good grades/scores you may get $18,000 in merit aid. (All merit aid info is on their website) It's also urban, diverse, large and has a good business school. It's a state school (not catholic) so even without merit aid it's less expensive than most private schools (about 25,000 OOS).


not liking their reviews http://www.studentsreview.com/PA/TU_comments.html

not the OP...DD is a junior...
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There are tons and tons of Jesuit colleges. Surely there is one that meets the brand recognition test and gives merit aid. You can find out whether an individual school gives merit aid by looking at the Common Data Set for each school (generally available on their website but also available through the federal Department of Education College Navigator) Obviously you have to apply to know how much merit aid, if any, your DD will get.

Map showing Jesuit colleges is at the link below.

http://www.ajcunet.edu/institutions?Page=DTN-20130128030719&Major=&Region=%&#search_results
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