What is the big deal about AAP?

[Anonymous]

so, do the admissions officers at Harvard, Yale, Princeton, etc., consider a candidate's elementary school grades? Do they care if the candidate was in AAP? There is absolutely no correlation between admission to elementary AAP and admission to top colleges. AAPparents (assholes advocating for their pussies) need to grasp reality.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:so, do the admissions officers at Harvard, Yale, Princeton, etc., consider a candidate's elementary school grades? Do they care if the candidate was in AAP? There is absolutely no correlation between admission to elementary AAP and admission to top colleges. AAPparents (assholes advocating for their pussies) need to grasp reality.

Have you read any of the research on underachievement?

My guess is that admissions officers at Harvard, Yale, Princeton, etc., consider it important for a student to have matriculated high school vs. dropped out altogether.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:^ if your DC can't get in it's a moot point, innit? If your kid does get in, go ahead and do it. The curriculum might not be that much different, but the students are.

Another ridiculous fallacy about AAP.

Absolutely. Because we all know that all GenEd students are exactly the same, so all AAP students must also be exactly the same. And we all know that all schools are exactly the same, and all classrooms are exactly the same.

Yep. And if I hear one more comment about the "peer group," I will vomit.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:so, do the admissions officers at Harvard, Yale, Princeton, etc., consider a candidate's elementary school grades? Do they care if the candidate was in AAP? There is absolutely no correlation between admission to elementary AAP and admission to top colleges. AAPparents (assholes advocating for their pussies) need to grasp reality.

Have you read any of the research on underachievement?

My guess is that admissions officers at Harvard, Yale, Princeton, etc., consider it important for a student to have matriculated high school vs. dropped out altogether.

Wow. Are you seriously suggesting that non-AAP kids are at risk of dropping out of school?? What alternate universe do you live in? This has to be one of the most ignorant posts I've ever read here at DCUM, and I've read plenty.

[Anonymous]

or is she implying that AAP kids would drop out if they were in Gened? Equally dumb.

[Anonymous]

agree with you except in cases where a bright child learns so quickly and easily that he doesn't ever learn the mechanics of how to study. The AAP provides both a more challenging curriculum so that the child needs to work some to learn, and teachers who know how to guide bright kids to learn how to study. Kids like this used to fall through the cracks and have problems when their coursework became more difficult in late high school or college but being in the AAP helps them to learn the skills they need while they are younger. I grew up in a place without programs like this and I struggled at one point because I truly did not know how to study because before that time I simply listened in class or read the book and I knew the material. I had to figure out for myself how to actually study for tests, and it is more difficult to change your habits when you are older. I am sure that my own kids have been more successful in high school and college because of the challenging work they encountered in AAP/GT.

Are you serious? They are so smart they cannot figure out how to study? Really?

[Anonymous]

This has definitely been our experience with two high schoolers. Taking AAP classes through 8th grade has no bearing on future success in high school. It's a shame parents of younger kids who read DCUM get the impression that AAP is the only thing that matters. It's just a slightly more accelerated program which follows the exact same curriculum as GE, though many AAP parents try to spin it as some sort of magical track without which your child is a lost cause. By 9th grade, no one cares who was or wasn't in AAP.

Except for the ones who were in AAP and assumed they were smarter than everyone else. Those have a tough time adjusting when they find out that lots of Gened kids are just as smart.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:so, do the admissions officers at Harvard, Yale, Princeton, etc., consider a candidate's elementary school grades? Do they care if the candidate was in AAP? There is absolutely no correlation between admission to elementary AAP and admission to top colleges. AAPparents (assholes advocating for their pussies) need to grasp reality.

Have you read any of the research on underachievement?

My guess is that admissions officers at Harvard, Yale, Princeton, etc., consider it important for a student to have matriculated high school vs. dropped out altogether.

Wow. Are you seriously suggesting that non-AAP kids are at risk of dropping out of school?? What alternate universe do you live in? This has to be one of the most ignorant posts I've ever read here at DCUM, and I've read plenty.

And you cannot read correctly. Mustn't be AAP-worthy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Have you read any of the research on underachievement?

http://www.davidsongifted.org/db/Articles_id_10094.aspx

http://www.gifted.uconn.edu/siegle/publications/GCQDifferentiateUnderachieving.pdf

http://www.nagc.org/index.aspx?id=180

http://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007%2F978-1-4020-6162-2_24

http://education.wm.edu/centers/cfge/_documents/profdev/ncnc/handouts/siegle.pdf

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:so, do the admissions officers at Harvard, Yale, Princeton, etc., consider a candidate's elementary school grades? Do they care if the candidate was in AAP? There is absolutely no correlation between admission to elementary AAP and admission to top colleges. AAPparents (assholes advocating for their pussies) need to grasp reality.

actually, I am aware that some of the better boarding schools in the northeast and mid-atlantic that accept some public school kids know FCPS in general and the AAP program in particular and if you have Geometry ! from AAP it is seen as indicative the student can handle the work. And these schools do in fact feed the Ivies, Stanford, MIT.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

agree with you except in cases where a bright child learns so quickly and easily that he doesn't ever learn the mechanics of how to study. The AAP provides both a more challenging curriculum so that the child needs to work some to learn, and teachers who know how to guide bright kids to learn how to study. Kids like this used to fall through the cracks and have problems when their coursework became more difficult in late high school or college but being in the AAP helps them to learn the skills they need while they are younger. I grew up in a place without programs like this and I struggled at one point because I truly did not know how to study because before that time I simply listened in class or read the book and I knew the material. I had to figure out for myself how to actually study for tests, and it is more difficult to change your habits when you are older. I am sure that my own kids have been more successful in high school and college because of the challenging work they encountered in AAP/GT.

Are you serious? They are so smart they cannot figure out how to study? Really?

Agree. My son was in AAP/GT, is graduating from HS this year and still will not really study for tests. You're kidding yourself if you think this is something "taught" in AAP. My second son also prefers not to study and that has served him well for many years -- should he also be in AAP?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:so, do the admissions officers at Harvard, Yale, Princeton, etc., consider a candidate's elementary school grades? Do they care if the candidate was in AAP? There is absolutely no correlation between admission to elementary AAP and admission to top colleges. AAPparents (assholes advocating for their pussies) need to grasp reality.

actually, I am aware that some of the better boarding schools in the northeast and mid-atlantic that accept some public school kids know FCPS in general and the AAP program in particular and if you have Geometry ! from AAP it is seen as indicative the student can handle the work. And these schools do in fact feed the Ivies, Stanford, MIT.

So for all those FCPS kids expecting to matriculate from Andover -- be sure to get into AAP first.

Not sure, btw, that these schools necessarily "feed" the Ivies either these days. It has gotten more competitive everywhere and unless you really stand out in whatever school you go to (and perhaps not even then) it's going to be hard to get into the Ivies.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:so, do the admissions officers at Harvard, Yale, Princeton, etc., consider a candidate's elementary school grades? Do they care if the candidate was in AAP? There is absolutely no correlation between admission to elementary AAP and admission to top colleges. AAPparents (assholes advocating for their pussies) need to grasp reality.

actually, I am aware that some of the better boarding schools in the northeast and mid-atlantic that accept some public school kids know FCPS in general and the AAP program in particular and if you have Geometry ! from AAP it is seen as indicative the student can handle the work. And these schools do in fact feed the Ivies, Stanford, MIT.

How many students from FCPS matriculate to those schools every year? How many are AAP in one grade? You don't have to be in AAP to take the higher level math classes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:so, do the admissions officers at Harvard, Yale, Princeton, etc., consider a candidate's elementary school grades? Do they care if the candidate was in AAP? There is absolutely no correlation between admission to elementary AAP and admission to top colleges. AAPparents (assholes advocating for their pussies) need to grasp reality.

actually, I am aware that some of the better boarding schools in the northeast and mid-atlantic that accept some public school kids know FCPS in general and the AAP program in particular and if you have Geometry ! from AAP it is seen as indicative the student can handle the work. And these schools do in fact feed the Ivies, Stanford, MIT.

How many students from FCPS matriculate to those schools every year? How many are AAP in one grade? You don't have to be in AAP to take the higher level math classes.

but open enrollment "honors" isn't exactly AAP now is it? I think the admissions people at the better privates know this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:so, do the admissions officers at Harvard, Yale, Princeton, etc., consider a candidate's elementary school grades? Do they care if the candidate was in AAP? There is absolutely no correlation between admission to elementary AAP and admission to top colleges. AAPparents (assholes advocating for their pussies) need to grasp reality.

actually, I am aware that some of the better boarding schools in the northeast and mid-atlantic that accept some public school kids know FCPS in general and the AAP program in particular and if you have Geometry ! from AAP it is seen as indicative the student can handle the work. And these schools do in fact feed the Ivies, Stanford, MIT.

How many students from FCPS matriculate to those schools every year? How many are AAP in one grade? You don't have to be in AAP to take the higher level math classes.

but open enrollment "honors" isn't exactly AAP now is it? I think the admissions people at the better privates know this.

Yes, I'm sure the admissions committes at Andover and Lawrenceville are scouring FCPS for their AAP "talent". You sure have a rich fantasy life.