Common Core: one goal is by the end of kindergarten, kids can count to 100 by 1s and 10s. ???

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Kids enjoy repetition.

[Anonymous]

+++a million
a lot of people on dcurbanmom feel the need to attack those with kids who are smart. it's weird.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

What about those kids who already recognize numbers up to 1000 at three? I have one.

Does the child have a true sense of what "1000" is? Recognizing the numeral is not the same as understanding the number.

Why cannot you accept the fact some kids do get it?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Really, do you all have a budding genius or go to 5 years of preschool or something? My dd went to part-time preschool for 3 years, and she can now reliably count to 20 or 30, but she is not able to count to 100 by 1's and 10's yet. She certainly didn't show up to K with that ability. Do you want your K student to be doing calculus or something? You know some kids that are very advance academically have other issues such as autism.

Threatened much? Wow. So now kids who are great at math probably have autism?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Really, do you all have a budding genius or go to 5 years of preschool or something? My dd went to part-time preschool for 3 years, and she can now reliably count to 20 or 30, but she is not able to count to 100 by 1's and 10's yet. She certainly didn't show up to K with that ability. Do you want your K student to be doing calculus or something? You know some kids that are very advance academically have other issues such as autism.

Threatened much? Wow. So now kids who are great at math probably have autism?

http://healthland.time.com/2012/07/10/what-child-prodigies-and-autistic-people-have-in-common/

Child prodigies evoke awe, wonder and sometimes jealousy: how can such young children display the kinds of musical or mathematical talents that most adults will never master, even with years of dedicated practice? Lucky for these despairing types, the prevailing wisdom suggests that such comparisons are unfair — prodigies are born, not made (mostly). Practice alone isn’t going to turn out the next 6-year-old Mozart.

So finds a recent study of eight young prodigies, which sought to shed some light on the roots of their talent. The prodigies included in the study are all famous (but remain unidentified in the paper), having achieved acclaim and professional status in their fields by the ripe age of 10. Most are musical prodigies; one is an artist and another a math whiz, who developed a new discipline in mathematics and, by age 13, had had a paper accepted for publication in a mathematics journal.

There was something else striking too. The authors found that prodigies scored high in autistic traits, most notably in their ferocious attention to detail. They scored even higher on this trait than did people diagnosed with Asperger’s syndrome, a high-functioning form of autism that typically includes obsession with details.

Three of the eight prodigies had a diagnosed autism spectrum disorder themselves. The child who had spoken his first words at 3 months, stopped speaking altogether at 18 months, then started again when he was just over two-and-a-half years old; he was diagnosed with autism at 3. What’s more, four of the eight families included in the study reported autism diagnoses in first- or second-degree relatives, and three of these families reported a total of 11 close relatives with autism. In the general population, by contrast, about 1 in 88 people have either autism or Asperger’s.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:+++a million
a lot of people on dcurbanmom feel the need to attack those with kids who are smart. it's weird.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

What about those kids who already recognize numbers up to 1000 at three? I have one.

Does the child have a true sense of what "1000" is? Recognizing the numeral is not the same as understanding the number.

Why cannot you accept the fact some kids do get it?

What I don't get is why EVERY kid mentioned on DCUM is advanced. Are there no average children?

[Anonymous]

This was a study of eight (8!!!!!) prodigies. I don't think most people on DCUM who brag about their child think their child is a prodigy. They just think their child is advanced. A child who can count to 100 or even 1000 at age 3 is not necessarily a prodigy.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Really, do you all have a budding genius or go to 5 years of preschool or something? My dd went to part-time preschool for 3 years, and she can now reliably count to 20 or 30, but she is not able to count to 100 by 1's and 10's yet. She certainly didn't show up to K with that ability. Do you want your K student to be doing calculus or something? You know some kids that are very advance academically have other issues such as autism.

Threatened much? Wow. So now kids who are great at math probably have autism?

http://healthland.time.com/2012/07/10/what-child-prodigies-and-autistic-people-have-in-common/

Child prodigies evoke awe, wonder and sometimes jealousy: how can such young children display the kinds of musical or mathematical talents that most adults will never master, even with years of dedicated practice? Lucky for these despairing types, the prevailing wisdom suggests that such comparisons are unfair — prodigies are born, not made (mostly). Practice alone isn’t going to turn out the next 6-year-old Mozart.

So finds a recent study of eight young prodigies, which sought to shed some light on the roots of their talent. The prodigies included in the study are all famous (but remain unidentified in the paper), having achieved acclaim and professional status in their fields by the ripe age of 10. Most are musical prodigies; one is an artist and another a math whiz, who developed a new discipline in mathematics and, by age 13, had had a paper accepted for publication in a mathematics journal.

There was something else striking too. The authors found that prodigies scored high in autistic traits, most notably in their ferocious attention to detail. They scored even higher on this trait than did people diagnosed with Asperger’s syndrome, a high-functioning form of autism that typically includes obsession with details.

Three of the eight prodigies had a diagnosed autism spectrum disorder themselves. The child who had spoken his first words at 3 months, stopped speaking altogether at 18 months, then started again when he was just over two-and-a-half years old; he was diagnosed with autism at 3. What’s more, four of the eight families included in the study reported autism diagnoses in first- or second-degree relatives, and three of these families reported a total of 11 close relatives with autism. In the general population, by contrast, about 1 in 88 people have either autism or Asperger’s.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:+++a million
a lot of people on dcurbanmom feel the need to attack those with kids who are smart. it's weird.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

What about those kids who already recognize numbers up to 1000 at three? I have one.

Does the child have a true sense of what "1000" is? Recognizing the numeral is not the same as understanding the number.

Why cannot you accept the fact some kids do get it?

Np here. I think it's because an extraordinary number of parents in this area think their children are brilliant. I think there are a fair number of really bright kids in this area, but there just aren't that many geniuses in the world. It also doesn't help to know how hard so many parents push their children to fit into the gifted category when they don't.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:+++a million
a lot of people on dcurbanmom feel the need to attack those with kids who are smart. it's weird.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

What about those kids who already recognize numbers up to 1000 at three? I have one.

Does the child have a true sense of what "1000" is? Recognizing the numeral is not the same as understanding the number.

Why cannot you accept the fact some kids do get it?

What I don't get is why EVERY kid mentioned on DCUM is advanced. Are there no average children?

I actually think it was an honest question, not an attack. Just like many kids that can read in K lack comprehension of what they just read. And that's okay. So does your child really understand what 1,000 means? Or just recognizes the number?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:+++a million
a lot of people on dcurbanmom feel the need to attack those with kids who are smart. it's weird.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

What about those kids who already recognize numbers up to 1000 at three? I have one.

Does the child have a true sense of what "1000" is? Recognizing the numeral is not the same as understanding the number.

Why cannot you accept the fact some kids do get it?

What I don't get is why EVERY kid mentioned on DCUM is advanced. Are there no average children?

I actually think it was an honest question, not an attack. Just like many kids that can read in K lack comprehension of what they just read. And that's okay. So does your child really understand what 1,000 means? Or just recognizes the number?

I posted the bold above (as a NP in this conversation). It was a sincere question. My kid can't count to 1000. And she's a level 2 reader in K. Are we the only ones??

- Feeling lonely in MCPS...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
I posted the bold above (as a NP in this conversation). It was a sincere question. My kid can't count to 1000. And she's a level 2 reader in K. Are we the only ones??

- Feeling lonely in MCPS...

Absolutely, certainly, guaranteed, 100% NOT the only ones.

--another MCPS parent

[Anonymous]

Kids are developmentally all over the map between 5-7 years old. It tends to even out after that - obviously there are some truly gifted kids and kids that have learning disabilities, but those are outliers. You need to have some form of differentiated instruction/curriculum for that age group, or at least a method to keep all kids engaged. You can have a more rigid and demanding curriculum after 2nd grade, but should be flexible before that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:+++a million
a lot of people on dcurbanmom feel the need to attack those with kids who are smart. it's weird.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

What about those kids who already recognize numbers up to 1000 at three? I have one.

Does the child have a true sense of what "1000" is? Recognizing the numeral is not the same as understanding the number.

Why cannot you accept the fact some kids do get it?

What I don't get is why EVERY kid mentioned on DCUM is advanced. Are there no average children?

I actually think it was an honest question, not an attack. Just like many kids that can read in K lack comprehension of what they just read. And that's okay. So does your child really understand what 1,000 means? Or just recognizes the number?

I posted the bold above (as a NP in this conversation). It was a sincere question. My kid can't count to 1000. And she's a level 2 reader in K. Are we the only ones??

- Feeling lonely in MCPS...

My current kindergartner can count by tens to 1000, but could not recognize it written out. I believe the common core standards meet her needs well. Her school uses singapore math which is slow and steady. Emphasis should be put on solidifying these math foundations.