Teachers........Anyone transfer between FCPS and ACPS?

[Anonymous]

I have so much sick leave banked after 7 years of teaching that my husband and I joke we should have another kid just so I can use it up. I will forfeit it all when I leave, because when am I going to use 8 weeks all at once?

The ironic part is when I actually did have a kid, I had hardly any leave and had to come back after 6 weeks, 3 of which were unpaid.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I have so much sick leave banked after 7 years of teaching that my husband and I joke we should have another kid just so I can use it up. I will forfeit it all when I leave, because when am I going to use 8 weeks all at once?

The ironic part is when I actually did have a kid, I had hardly any leave and had to come back after 6 weeks, 3 of which were unpaid.

Beyond what it takes to get to short term disability it really doesn’t make sense to save a lot of leave other than it’s a pain to plan for a substitute. I think the five personal days at minimum should be used.

[Anonymous]

Can someone explain the pay scale with the alphabets? I'd like to transfer my MD for VA.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Can someone explain the pay scale with the alphabets? I'd like to transfer my MD for VA.

I am the PP who works for APS...I could give you a better idea if you told me how many years you have in MD (or where ever). Its a bit too much to explain otherwise. Thx.

[Anonymous]

PP, I have 6 years in. Thanks!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I have a problem with 10 days of sick leave. There are already so many days off in the year. Most companies now just give vacation time that you can use towards sick leave. Or take days without pay. 10 days of sick leave is excessive.

So a teacher should only get sick on planned days off? OK....

I see your point, however do the majority of teachers get sick 10 days during school? If not, a reduction could be considered. In other jobs, you take leave with or without pay if you are sick and then after a certain amount of time, usually about 10 days, short term disability kicks in. I can see why they have 10 days to cover all of the time before short term disability, but am just saying many jobs do not cover this time. Most jobs these days require people to go without pay or by using leave till short term disability kicks in. If the sick days don't carry over from year to year, I don't see that much of a problem with an automatic 10 days, but if they carry over like it seems they do from year to year, then they are really paid leave days and not sick days.

[Anonymous]

They aren't paid leave days because you cannot use them for leave beyond illness. If I want to take a 6th day off this year to clean my house or visit my mom or see my child's school pageant, it will be unpaid, despite having years of sick leave saved.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:PP, I have 6 years in. Thanks!

Years of Experience 5/6 come in on STEP D. You can check for what that would be at Masters/Masters 30.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I have a problem with 10 days of sick leave. There are already so many days off in the year. Most companies now just give vacation time that you can use towards sick leave. Or take days without pay. 10 days of sick leave is excessive.

So a teacher should only get sick on planned days off? OK....

I see your point, however do the majority of teachers get sick 10 days during school? If not, a reduction could be considered. In other jobs, you take leave with or without pay if you are sick and then after a certain amount of time, usually about 10 days, short term disability kicks in. I can see why they have 10 days to cover all of the time before short term disability, but am just saying many jobs do not cover this time. Most jobs these days require people to go without pay or by using leave till short term disability kicks in. If the sick days don't carry over from year to year, I don't see that much of a problem with an automatic 10 days, but if they carry over like it seems they do from year to year, then they are really paid leave days and not sick days.

What professional job does not provide paid sick leave??? Sure, low-paid service work tends to not get it (but they should!) Carrying over sick leave is very common and how some people are able to get paid when they or a family member has a major health crisis.

[Anonymous]

Looks like I'd make less in VA versus MD schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Looks like I'd make less in VA versus MD schools.

Consider benefits too. I know ACPS retiree healthcare benefit costs are MUCH lower than those for FCPS retirees. It looks like MCPS is better too.


https://www.fcps.edu/sites/default/files/media/pdf/2018%20Retiree%20Premiums_0.pdf

https://www.apsva.us/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/Retiree-Monthly-Insurance-Rates_Medical-and-Dental_COMBINED_2018.pdf

http://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/uploadedFiles/retiree%20_benefit_rate_schedules%20_2018.pdf

FCPS does have a supplemental retirement pension (ERFC). I don't know if other districts have something similar.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I have a problem with 10 days of sick leave. There are already so many days off in the year. Most companies now just give vacation time that you can use towards sick leave. Or take days without pay. 10 days of sick leave is excessive.

So a teacher should only get sick on planned days off? OK....

I see your point, however do the majority of teachers get sick 10 days during school? If not, a reduction could be considered. In other jobs, you take leave with or without pay if you are sick and then after a certain amount of time, usually about 10 days, short term disability kicks in. I can see why they have 10 days to cover all of the time before short term disability, but am just saying many jobs do not cover this time. Most jobs these days require people to go without pay or by using leave till short term disability kicks in. If the sick days don't carry over from year to year, I don't see that much of a problem with an automatic 10 days, but if they carry over like it seems they do from year to year, then they are really paid leave days and not sick days.

What professional job does not provide paid sick leave??? Sure, low-paid service work tends to not get it (but they should!) Carrying over sick leave is very common and how some people are able to get paid when they or a family member has a major health crisis.

Actually, a lot of jobs are like that now, especially local "professional" jobs in the US. They give four weeks of "flex leave" instead of paid holidays, sick leave, and vacation.

Which is why so many people resent teachers and federal employees. Because we have unions that protect these benefits.

This being said, isn't it sad that people knock down other people for their benefits, when it should be more of: "Why isn't my employer treating me better? Why is my CEO getting a million dollar bonus but I don't get reasonable maternity leave? Why do we have billion dollar profit margins but don't hire full time employees, even when they deserve the jobs?"

For those of us that aren't the 1%, these are the questions we should be asking. I have ex-pat friends who don't want to come back because it is so much better outside of this country. There are so many of us that are slaves to the 1% and continue to be because we keep battling against each other. "You have so many benefits and you don't deserve it!" shouldn't be the comments that we see. It should be: "You're benefits are amazing and they should be the standard in our country."

[Anonymous]

Agree with PP, we need to learn to work together not be jealous of each other. Benefits are important when considering a job transfer. I think I'll stay in MCPS where I am.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I have a problem with 10 days of sick leave. There are already so many days off in the year. Most companies now just give vacation time that you can use towards sick leave. Or take days without pay. 10 days of sick leave is excessive.

So a teacher should only get sick on planned days off? OK....

I see your point, however do the majority of teachers get sick 10 days during school? If not, a reduction could be considered. In other jobs, you take leave with or without pay if you are sick and then after a certain amount of time, usually about 10 days, short term disability kicks in. I can see why they have 10 days to cover all of the time before short term disability, but am just saying many jobs do not cover this time. Most jobs these days require people to go without pay or by using leave till short term disability kicks in. If the sick days don't carry over from year to year, I don't see that much of a problem with an automatic 10 days, but if they carry over like it seems they do from year to year, then they are really paid leave days and not sick days.

What professional job does not provide paid sick leave??? Sure, low-paid service work tends to not get it (but they should!) Carrying over sick leave is very common and how some people are able to get paid when they or a family member has a major health crisis.

Actually, a lot of jobs are like that now, especially local "professional" jobs in the US. They give four weeks of "flex leave" instead of paid holidays, sick leave, and vacation.

Which is why so many people resent teachers and federal employees. Because we have unions that protect these benefits.

This being said, isn't it sad that people knock down other people for their benefits, when it should be more of: "Why isn't my employer treating me better? Why is my CEO getting a million dollar bonus but I don't get reasonable maternity leave? Why do we have billion dollar profit margins but don't hire full time employees, even when they deserve the jobs?"

For those of us that aren't the 1%, these are the questions we should be asking. I have ex-pat friends who don't want to come back because it is so much better outside of this country. There are so many of us that are slaves to the 1% and continue to be because we keep battling against each other. "You have so many benefits and you don't deserve it!" shouldn't be the comments that we see. It should be: "You're benefits are amazing and they should be the standard in our country."

Exactly. I don't resent my husband's decent federal leave benefits. Everyone should have them! Compared to European countries we are still SO far behind a decent standard for family, medical, and holiday leave.

People who are resentful of decent benefits seem to just want to drag everyone down into the same hole rather than lifting everyone up. It's pathetic, and it's where our whole country is going.