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Wrong. She supports the use of contraception. As far as education goes, she is exclusively for abstinence. |
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I stand corrected. Palin doesn't support contraception-education, but she does support the use of contraception.
In any case, I still don't understand why her daughter's pregnancy makes her lose any credibility. Teenagers have sex and sometimes they get pregnant. I'm not advocating teenage pregnancy, but it's a reality. Oh, and I support Obama. |
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| So... does anyone else just keep thinking... Juno! |
Rich
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Please help me on this.
I confess that I think the tale of the flight back from Texas to Alaska, past a batch of good hospitals with facilities to handle preemies with special needs, to get to her little hometown hospital, is easier to believe if Trig was Bristol's baby. Even though it now means believing that Bristol and her boyfriend managed a replay very soon after the birth, I'm still not sure. It truly would not make me think any the less of either Sarah or Bristol Palin, but I think I would understand the candidate better if I knew the truth, even as I admit that her private life should be none of my business. Being in this situation makes me empathize a bit more with those who can't quite give up the feeling that there is something Muslim about Obama. (I don't believe that, but, being a non-believer, it would not make much difference to me, anyway, whether he calls God Jesus, Allah, or Adonai). My point, in both cases, is that I would distinguish between those who are trying to figure out the truth, whether for the reasons (I think) I did or even just for the fun of gossip, and those who know the rumors are likely to be false, but purposely spread them for political effect, either as straightforward mudslingers, or as Jeff's reverse mudslingers. Given my twisted sense of humor, let me add that I am being serious here, and trying to get some enlightenment, as well as to get those who are attacking each other to apply a bit of charity in evaluating other people's motives. |
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You mean Jupiter's wife Juno? Or Alaska's capital Juneau? And what about it? Not trying to be snide -- I just wonder what you mean. |
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| I assume it's a word play. Juno is a movie about a teenage pregnancy, and as you said Juneau is the capital of Alaska. |
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Ah, the absent-mindedness of us old folks. I saw and enjoyed Juno not long ago, and even saw its star Ellen Page in the DVD Smart People over the week-end. But the Juno of the Roman mythology I read as a kid was still what popped into my head. Thanks for straightening me out. On a serious note, I think it's a fairly common fact about the brain as it ages, that recent memories do not pop to mind as easily as older ones. I don't think it disqualifies McCain that it appears to happen to him at times (Czechoslovakia, for example), but it's something he has to compensate for if he gets elected. Biden too, perhaps. |
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Original Juno poster here - yes - was referring to the movie. Didn't mean to confuse anyone 
By the way, Rich, on your doubleplay question. Yes - it is possible. Britney Spears proved that. I do not think that Bristol is Trig's mother, but it could be possible as far as timing. We also do not know if she is really due in December. If it were a few weeks later, the timing is even easier to imagine. |
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| I know, I think it's funny that the McCain campaign keeps saying she's "around" 5 months pregnant. |
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Isn't that kinda the problem? I personally do not think we should shine a bright light on Palin's daughter, except perhaps as an example that abstinence education does not work. Palin can't even execute her most closely held beliefs in her own home. What does this say about judgment???? Some of the best sex I ever had was in my teens and early 20s. No matter what "God" may think -- the body is primed and pleasure is at its peak. Shame for any girl to miss out. I'm glad I had parents who let me have boys stay until 2 AM in my home and gave us privacy (instead of letting us fend for ourselves in some parked car), and couldn't stop talking about birth control!!! I've never had an abortion!! I got to live my life just for me until I was 38! Judgment. |
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One comment that I have to make about all of these bloggers who initially started the rumor that Trig is really Bristol's baby.... as most DCUM's could tell you (read: for the most part, older and more educated than your average mom from the hinterlands), the odds that a 16 year old would give birth to a baby with Down syndrome is very, very slim, while the odds that a 43 year old would have a Down baby are comparatively much higher. So that, in and of itself, should have put a lid on some of this talk.
But to the issue at hand: Now we have yet another set of dumb, uneducated 17-year-olds getting married because "the she" gets knocked up. Personally, yes, I am delighted that did not choose to have an abortion, but why is no one in this conservative orb mentioning the ADOPTION OPTION??? There are infertile couples --- mature adults in solid relationships -- all over this country who would love the chance to adopt this infant. All of a sudden, that moral high ground seems to have dried up. I have to admit that I was one of those people who was giddy on Friday at the thought of this choice for VP... now I've landed with a thud, as this pick seems to scream White Trash..... |
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Offensive term and unnecessary. |
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Interesting how people seem to forget that Obama was largely raised away from his own mother, by his grandparents while his mother was Indonesia with her second husband. Women with one or two children find it hard to imagine what a household with four or more children is like. First of all, the older children are given much more responsibility for the younger, and, as in the case with Obama -- other family members are often willing to share in the parenting tasks.
I find it hard to imagine that the children of Palin and her grandchild will lack for love and attention. And we also seem to conveniently forget that the grandchild's father also has a family who may be active participants in caring for this baby. Realistically speaking, Palin will not get the one-on-one time with each child that those of us with fewer children are able too, she will also not be capable of always being there physically. But many families are more than capable of this. I work with a physician single mom of 5 kids who works 2 jobs, one a high level managerial position in a teaching hospital, and the other practicing medicine part time. With the support of her parents (which she has indicated is a lifesaver) she seems to be raising extremely bright kids which have received scholarships to private high school and college (for the older ones) for athletics and academics. During the work day she'll nonchalantly announce that she is hosting a noncatered dinner for 50 or so people at her home that evening. Asked about the number of people, she says, when you have that many people already in the house, what's a few more? |
Anonymous
I think the issue is that Palin represents the party that is anti-sex education, anti birth control, right of right, holier than thou principles and she has a 17 yo who is knocked up. As a Dem, I'd prefer that my teens not be promiscuous but the reality is there is a chance that they will be. Hence, I'd like to make sure that the teens learn everything they need to know about birth control from me or from a knowledgeable professional, rather than hearsay from other teens. By having policies that prohibit this information to teens, it has resulted in the US being an industrial country with the highest teen pregnancy. |
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Here's another thought. When Palin became pregnant at 43, it wasn't as though she hadn't had the opportunity to fully enjoy the joys of motherhood. She had four kids. In that circumstance, to get pregnant at the age of 43 I think is reckless, greedy, careless, or some combination of all three.
I have friends that got married late and take this chance because they so badly want a child and have wanted on for so long. That I can understand. I will never understand the decision to get pregnant at the age of 43. That's not 35, 38, or even 40. It's 43, and any OB/GYN will tell you that at 43, it's not safe to get pregnant. |