Do all of the DC elem. public schools have "gifted" programs?

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Anonymous wrote:It's pretty well-established that most G/T programs are not based on actual gifts/intelligence of the kids, but instead become mechanisms to track privileged kids. The biggest influence about whether a kid is characterized as gifted is the SES of the parents. So most school systems are moving away from this model to avoid class and race-based tracking inequities.

Well, Watkins refuses any kind of pull-outs or G/T, and so many of the brighter kids leave because they tire of looking at the ceiling. So what something positive did you accomplish by making the neighborhood move?

Watkins DOES indeed pull some high performing students out in grades 2-5 to participate in the DCPS Advanced Readers Extension (DARE) program. The assistant principal there, Ms. Drumm oversees it. If you have questions contact her by email or phone.

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Anonymous wrote:My experience with a child in a Janney/Mann K is that all the kids in my child's class are extremely bright. They all come from very successful families (for better or worse, you can't attend K at either of these schools unless you can afford a million dollar house which self selects for a universally ambitious/smart/highly educated parent population). My child's classmates all attended very highly regarded preschools and had (have) every extracurricular advantage. So while these aren't "gifted" schools, I haven't met a single kid that isn't very bright. There really aren't any slacker parents/kids in AU Park, Wesley Heights, Spring Valley, etc.

Right, as usual, it's the advanced kids in the schools not in upper NW, or the few other such schools scattered throughout the city, that are the ones suffering. Parents in the schools like yours need not worry; your children already have access to challenging curricula.

To the people suggesting there are not enough gifted kids - what makes you think that? I assure you there are; they are trapped in schools that are being beaten over the head with AYP goals. But, please - explain how you know there are not enough gifted kids in DCPS to justify having any programs.

Gosh we feel like we met so many not so bright social climbing parents raising kids without moral compasses and with behavioral problems at our JKLM fortunately they all go to private schools now. And honestly smart kids do not = that intelligent kids. Gifted kids from that group? They go to BASIS. That is my recommendation for a STEM gifted kid willing to work hard, and I mean hard. BASIS is an oasis after being in an intellectual desert that is also known as Spring Valley/AU Park/Palisades. Not to say there are not some really smart cool parents with smart cool kids there, but betting on that? And betting that your class will have those kids? Not a good bet. If I had it to do over, we would have tried for Yu Ying and then gone to BASIS. BASIS is definitely our oasis. No joke. And very hard to find in the DC metro area, public or private, until high school unless you are willing to put up with the BASIS crap for the intellectual stimulation that your kids will get and the peer group which is fairly unparallelled

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Anonymous wrote:It's pretty well-established that most G/T programs are not based on actual gifts/intelligence of the kids, but instead become mechanisms to track privileged kids. The biggest influence about whether a kid is characterized as gifted is the SES of the parents. So most school systems are moving away from this model to avoid class and race-based tracking inequities.

Well, Watkins refuses any kind of pull-outs or G/T, and so many of the brighter kids leave because they tire of looking at the ceiling. So what something positive did you accomplish by making the neighborhood move?

Watkins DOES indeed pull some high performing students out in grades 2-5 to participate in the DCPS Advanced Readers Extension (DARE) program. The assistant principal there, Ms. Drumm oversees it. If you have questions contact her by email or phone.

Seriously called DARE?

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Gosh we feel like we met so many not so bright social climbing parents raising kids without moral compasses and with behavioral problems at our JKLM fortunately they all go to private schools now. And honestly smart kids do not = that intelligent kids. Gifted kids from that group? They go to BASIS. That is my recommendation for a STEM gifted kid willing to work hard, and I mean hard. BASIS is an oasis after being in an intellectual desert that is also known as Spring Valley/AU Park/Palisades. Not to say there are not some really smart cool parents with smart cool kids there, but betting on that? And betting that your class will have those kids? Not a good bet. If I had it to do over, we would have tried for Yu Ying and then gone to BASIS. BASIS is definitely our oasis. No joke. And very hard to find in the DC metro area, public or private, until high school unless you are willing to put up with the BASIS crap for the intellectual stimulation that your kids will get and the peer group which is fairly unparallelled

I'm confused - is BASIS an elementary school with a gifted program?

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Gosh we feel like we met so many not so bright social climbing parents raising kids without moral compasses and with behavioral problems at our JKLM fortunately they all go to private schools now. And honestly smart kids do not = that intelligent kids. Gifted kids from that group? They go to BASIS. That is my recommendation for a STEM gifted kid willing to work hard, and I mean hard. BASIS is an oasis after being in an intellectual desert that is also known as Spring Valley/AU Park/Palisades. Not to say there are not some really smart cool parents with smart cool kids there, but betting on that? And betting that your class will have those kids? Not a good bet. If I had it to do over, we would have tried for Yu Ying and then gone to BASIS. BASIS is definitely our oasis. No joke. And very hard to find in the DC metro area, public or private, until high school unless you are willing to put up with the BASIS crap for the intellectual stimulation that your kids will get and the peer group which is fairly unparallelled

I'm confused - is BASIS an elementary school with a gifted program?

BASIS is not a gifted program per se. It offers accelerated but doable with hard work curricula. It starts in 5th grade and will go through 12th grade. In the next few years they are exploring adding which they already offer K-4 as well in Arizona.

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Gosh we feel like we met so many not so bright social climbing parents raising kids without moral compasses and with behavioral problems at our JKLM fortunately they all go to private schools now. And honestly smart kids do not = that intelligent kids. Gifted kids from that group? They go to BASIS. That is my recommendation for a STEM gifted kid willing to work hard, and I mean hard. BASIS is an oasis after being in an intellectual desert that is also known as Spring Valley/AU Park/Palisades. Not to say there are not some really smart cool parents with smart cool kids there, but betting on that? And betting that your class will have those kids? Not a good bet. If I had it to do over, we would have tried for Yu Ying and then gone to BASIS. BASIS is definitely our oasis. No joke. And very hard to find in the DC metro area, public or private, until high school unless you are willing to put up with the BASIS crap for the intellectual stimulation that your kids will get and the peer group which is fairly unparallelled

I'm confused - is BASIS an elementary school with a gifted program?

BASIS is not a gifted program per se. It offers accelerated but doable with hard work curricula. It starts in 5th grade and will go through 12th grade. In the next few years they are exploring adding which they already offer K-4 as well in Arizona.

So... neither a gifted program nor an elementary school. Thanks for posting in this thread.

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Anonymous wrote:It's pretty well-established that most G/T programs are not based on actual gifts/intelligence of the kids, but instead become mechanisms to track privileged kids. The biggest influence about whether a kid is characterized as gifted is the SES of the parents. So most school systems are moving away from this model to avoid class and race-based tracking inequities.

Well, Watkins refuses any kind of pull-outs or G/T, and so many of the brighter kids leave because they tire of looking at the ceiling. So what something positive did you accomplish by making the neighborhood move?

Watkins DOES indeed pull some high performing students out in grades 2-5 to participate in the DCPS Advanced Readers Extension (DARE) program. The assistant principal there, Ms. Drumm oversees it. If you have questions contact her by email or phone.

PP, that must be new. It's a positive development. How frequently do the students meet? Is there a math pull out?

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Gosh we feel like we met so many not so bright social climbing parents raising kids without moral compasses and with behavioral problems at our JKLM fortunately they all go to private schools now. And honestly smart kids do not = that intelligent kids. Gifted kids from that group? They go to BASIS. That is my recommendation for a STEM gifted kid willing to work hard, and I mean hard. BASIS is an oasis after being in an intellectual desert that is also known as Spring Valley/AU Park/Palisades. Not to say there are not some really smart cool parents with smart cool kids there, but betting on that? And betting that your class will have those kids? Not a good bet. If I had it to do over, we would have tried for Yu Ying and then gone to BASIS. BASIS is definitely our oasis. No joke. And very hard to find in the DC metro area, public or private, until high school unless you are willing to put up with the BASIS crap for the intellectual stimulation that your kids will get and the peer group which is fairly unparallelled

I'm confused - is BASIS an elementary school with a gifted program?

BASIS is not a gifted program per se. It offers accelerated but doable with hard work curricula. It starts in 5th grade and will go through 12th grade. In the next few years they are exploring adding which they already offer K-4 as well in Arizona.

So... neither a gifted program nor an elementary school. Thanks for posting in this thread.

NP here. Get off your high horse. The premise of this thread was so faulty that nothing could be said other than "absolutely not." PP is trying to give advice that may help someone with a gifted kid in DC.

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Gosh we feel like we met so many not so bright social climbing parents raising kids without moral compasses and with behavioral problems at our JKLM fortunately they all go to private schools now. And honestly smart kids do not = that intelligent kids. Gifted kids from that group? They go to BASIS. That is my recommendation for a STEM gifted kid willing to work hard, and I mean hard. BASIS is an oasis after being in an intellectual desert that is also known as Spring Valley/AU Park/Palisades. Not to say there are not some really smart cool parents with smart cool kids there, but betting on that? And betting that your class will have those kids? Not a good bet. If I had it to do over, we would have tried for Yu Ying and then gone to BASIS. BASIS is definitely our oasis. No joke. And very hard to find in the DC metro area, public or private, until high school unless you are willing to put up with the BASIS crap for the intellectual stimulation that your kids will get and the peer group which is fairly unparallelled

I'm confused - is BASIS an elementary school with a gifted program?

BASIS is not a gifted program per se. It offers accelerated but doable with hard work curricula. It starts in 5th grade and will go through 12th grade. In the next few years they are exploring adding which they already offer K-4 as well in Arizona.

So... neither a gifted program nor an elementary school. Thanks for posting in this thread.

NP here. Get off your high horse. The premise of this thread was so faulty that nothing could be said other than "absolutely not." PP is trying to give advice that may help someone with a gifted kid in DC.

Given the GoFundMe thread this poster started, I'd say the odds of that ever happening are around the same as me winning the lottery ten times in a row.

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Gosh we feel like we met so many not so bright social climbing parents raising kids without moral compasses and with behavioral problems at our JKLM fortunately they all go to private schools now. And honestly smart kids do not = that intelligent kids. Gifted kids from that group? They go to BASIS. That is my recommendation for a STEM gifted kid willing to work hard, and I mean hard. BASIS is an oasis after being in an intellectual desert that is also known as Spring Valley/AU Park/Palisades. Not to say there are not some really smart cool parents with smart cool kids there, but betting on that? And betting that your class will have those kids? Not a good bet. If I had it to do over, we would have tried for Yu Ying and then gone to BASIS. BASIS is definitely our oasis. No joke. And very hard to find in the DC metro area, public or private, until high school unless you are willing to put up with the BASIS crap for the intellectual stimulation that your kids will get and the peer group which is fairly unparallelled

I'm confused - is BASIS an elementary school with a gifted program?

BASIS is not a gifted program per se. It offers accelerated but doable with hard work curricula. It starts in 5th grade and will go through 12th grade. In the next few years they are exploring adding which they already offer K-4 as well in Arizona.

So... neither a gifted program nor an elementary school. Thanks for posting in this thread.

NP here. Get off your high horse. The premise of this thread was so faulty that nothing could be said other than "absolutely not." PP is trying to give advice that may help someone with a gifted kid in DC.

Given the GoFundMe thread this poster started, I'd say the odds of that ever happening are around the same as me winning the lottery ten times in a row.

That was a different poster, but I think it's funny.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's pretty well-established that most G/T programs are not based on actual gifts/intelligence of the kids, but instead become mechanisms to track privileged kids. The biggest influence about whether a kid is characterized as gifted is the SES of the parents. So most school systems are moving away from this model to avoid class and race-based tracking inequities.

Well, Watkins refuses any kind of pull-outs or G/T, and so many of the brighter kids leave because they tire of looking at the ceiling. So what something positive did you accomplish by making the neighborhood move?

Watkins DOES indeed pull some high performing students out in grades 2-5 to participate in the DCPS Advanced Readers Extension (DARE) program. The assistant principal there, Ms. Drumm oversees it. If you have questions contact her by email or phone.

Yes, and a few years ago Watkins had a pull-out group called ACE, which was great and lead by a wonderful teacher, until. . . She had a baby and no one covered for her and then the funding got moved to other programs and then it disappeared. So, enjoy your DARE program RIGHT NOW, but t realize that it may just be a bright moment in your time at the Cluster. Yes, I am bitter. My DC was so happy and then so disappointed. This is the level of commitment DCPS has for these kind of programs,

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Anonymous wrote:Really, the best you can do for a gifted kid in DC is send your kid to a "good" school versus a "bad" school, but there's little consensus on which schools are "best" for which kids. Or, still in DC, you could maybe send him to a charter where he does regular math but in french, chinese or spanish immersion (but you have to get lucky in the charter lotteries).

Funny that this answer is ancient, yet it is still true. If you want a decent education for your child in DC then either live west of the park, or get into one of the charter immersion schools. Or Oyster. (But not the other DCPS immersion schools - they are all widely known as ¨bilingual by default, as opposed to by choice.¨

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Bbwaaahahahhahahah!

DCPS has historically been hostile to anything that smacks of "elitism."

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Anonymous wrote:It's pretty well-established that most G/T programs are not based on actual gifts/intelligence of the kids, but instead become mechanisms to track privileged kids. The biggest influence about whether a kid is characterized as gifted is the SES of the parents. So most school systems are moving away from this model to avoid class and race-based tracking inequities.

Well, Watkins refuses any kind of pull-outs or G/T, and so many of the brighter kids leave because they tire of looking at the ceiling. So what something positive did you accomplish by making the neighborhood move?

Watkins DOES indeed pull some high performing students out in grades 2-5 to participate in the DCPS Advanced Readers Extension (DARE) program. The assistant principal there, Ms. Drumm oversees it. If you have questions contact her by email or phone.

Seriously called DARE?

I think it was named by the same people who created Bowser's "Vision Zero"!

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Gosh we feel like we met so many not so bright social climbing parents raising kids without moral compasses and with behavioral problems at our JKLM fortunately they all go to private schools now. And honestly smart kids do not = that intelligent kids. Gifted kids from that group? They go to BASIS. That is my recommendation for a STEM gifted kid willing to work hard, and I mean hard. BASIS is an oasis after being in an intellectual desert that is also known as Spring Valley/AU Park/Palisades. Not to say there are not some really smart cool parents with smart cool kids there, but betting on that? And betting that your class will have those kids? Not a good bet. If I had it to do over, we would have tried for Yu Ying and then gone to BASIS. BASIS is definitely our oasis. No joke. And very hard to find in the DC metro area, public or private, until high school unless you are willing to put up with the BASIS crap for the intellectual stimulation that your kids will get and the peer group which is fairly unparallelled

I'm confused - is BASIS an elementary school with a gifted program?

BASIS is not a gifted program per se. It offers accelerated but doable with hard work curricula. It starts in 5th grade and will go through 12th grade. In the next few years they are exploring adding which they already offer K-4 as well in Arizona.

So... neither a gifted program nor an elementary school. Thanks for posting in this thread.

NP here. Get off your high horse. The premise of this thread was so faulty that nothing could be said other than "absolutely not." PP is trying to give advice that may help someone with a gifted kid in DC.

Given the GoFundMe thread this poster started, I'd say the odds of that ever happening are around the same as me winning the lottery ten times in a row.

Why would anyone who had ever passed a respectable math class play the lottery?! The lottery is a tax on people who cannot do math.