Who would hire a SAHM these days?

[Anonymous]

"I don't want to hear shit about staying home so as not to miss those precious, precious moments with your special, special snowflake."

Wow.

Do you hate all parents? Or just SAHMs?

I suppose you do not consider your children special and the time spent with them as precious. Lucky them.

Also, what's with the "special snowflake" thing? I see this all the time on DCUM. Is this one poster or what?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

But I suppose it takes one to know one?

I wish, but I have to work for my $$$. No biggie! It has something to do with education, PP. You should check it out. You might like it.




This is the kind of education an professional "frump" gets! She knows the proper terminology to describe her outward appearance.



No, it probably describes someone who speaks more than one language fluently. 'An professional frump' - you may want to refresh some of your English lessons from Elementary school.

[Anonymous]

My company is interested in hiring a couple of people to job-share the receptionist position. We're thinking 5 hours each, each day-- a 9-2 shift and a 2-7 shift. SAHMs interested in returning to the workforce would be ideal. We're a small company, very friendly and flexible, and looking for people with a high degree of professionalism and initiative. If anyone is interested, please post your email and I'll send you some more information.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I wouldn't hire you as a lawyer, but in an administrative position, sure.

You sound awful and short sighted. You would want a trained lawyer to be your admin. rather than maximize her education and expertise? If yhat is the case, you clearly aren't a very good manager of human capital. Your attitude suggests low self-esteem and a lack of leadership qualities. For ex., your desire to take this SAHM- lawyer down a peg rather than to maximize her contribution tells me you have no business as part of the hiring committe at any decent corp or law firm.

No doubt the op can and will find a more clever and innovative boss than you.

Hmmmm...hit a sore spot?

Look, if you've been out of the workforce for several years, you can't expect to come back at the same level as you did previously. Depending upon how long you've been out and whether or not you've been doing the same level of work while not full-time make a big difference for hiring. I wouldn't hire a lawyer who's been out for 5 years, who hasn't handled complex litigation, who's completed only a few document review-type projects, as an attorney. I don't think anyone who's in a position to hire would.

In an admin position, a person with considerable skills and former experience would be expected to move up more quickly than someone who didn't have her background. But there is NO WAY she should expect to be hired as if she hadn't been away for the amount of time it takes for some newly minted JD to come up for junior partner.

[Anonymous]

Ditto PP. If you have been out of the workforce for a few years for whatever the reason, you need to be prepared to take a hit in title/pay/responsibility to get back in the game.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:What if the person decided to take a break to travel? Would the approach be the same?

Most people don't take several years off to travel.

How does this answer my question?

DH has a couple friend who just took a year off of work to travel the world and TTC in the process. We're so happy for them. (They didn't tell the TTC part to anybody but us, not even their parents) but she was kind of scared about the impact on their careers. The husband said SCREW IT, WE'VE WORKED HARD ENOUGH FOR TOO LONG TIME TO RELAX and I told her that she'll have a lot to think of if they indeed get pregnant in the process... They're on month 3 and just finishing Europe. Next step is a cruise in Greece and they're heading to Asia. Their FB pics are breathtaking!

Unless they are 65, I don't really get this attitude. Do they really think they've worked harder than other people struggling with this economy? I know single parents who work 2 full-time jobs and have been for the last several years. They are either stupidly rich, or just stupid.

I also have a (now ex-) colleague who did the same thing- he is single and had enough money that he could take 18 months to travel all of north and south america. He has worked hard for his money and saved up specifically for this purpose. When he returns to DC he will need to find work again after a year and a half off- he is by no means ready to retire. But he is not stupidly rich or stupid either. Yes, there are a lot of people who aren't able to do this (who work hard and deserve a break) but why hold it against those who can? In fact, it opened up a job for someone who needs one.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

But I suppose it takes one to know one?

I wish, but I have to work for my $$$. No biggie! It has something to do with education, PP. You should check it out. You might like it.

This is the kind of education an professional "frump" gets! She knows the proper terminology to describe her outward appearance.



No, it probably describes someone who speaks more than one language fluently. 'An professional frump' - you may want to refresh some of your English lessons from Elementary school.

I'm sure "an PP" made a typo. such a drastic bit of "advice" you're freely giving . . .

So Hausfrau PP (singular, by the way) she may know two languages.

big whoop

anch'io
Ma preferisco usare la casalinga.

But it won't get me a top paying job after being out of work for many years now, will it?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

But I suppose it takes one to know one?

I wish, but I have to work for my $$$. No biggie! It has something to do with education, PP. You should check it out. You might like it.

This is the kind of education an professional "frump" gets! She knows the proper terminology to describe her outward appearance.

No, it probably describes someone who speaks more than one language fluently. 'An professional frump' - you may want to refresh some of your English lessons from Elementary school.

I'm sure "an PP" made a typo. such a drastic bit of "advice" you're freely giving . . .

So Hausfrau PP (singular, by the way) [oops - delete she before you attack my grammar] may know two languages.

big whoop

anch'io
Ma preferisco usare la casalinga.

But it won't get me a top paying job after being out of work for many years now, will it?

[Anonymous]

Back to the topic at hand- my company also hired a SAHM- she stayed home with her kids until they all graduated high school, and taught part time for the last few years. It was very difficult to get back into the work force and she took an administrative job- not terrible pay but probably not what she was used to years ago.
I have thought about staying home after #2 is born and I worry about getting back into work. Good Luck.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I wouldn't hire you as a lawyer, but in an administrative position, sure.

You sound awful and short sighted. You would want a trained lawyer to be your admin. rather than maximize her education and expertise? If yhat is the case, you clearly aren't a very good manager of human capital. Your attitude suggests low self-esteem and a lack of leadership qualities. For ex., your desire to take this SAHM- lawyer down a peg rather than to maximize her contribution tells me you have no business as part of the hiring committe at any decent corp or law firm.

No doubt the op can and will find a more clever and innovative boss than you.

Hmmmm...hit a sore spot?

Look, if you've been out of the workforce for several years, you can't expect to come back at the same level as you did previously. Depending upon how long you've been out and whether or not you've been doing the same level of work while not full-time make a big difference for hiring. I wouldn't hire a lawyer who's been out for 5 years, who hasn't handled complex litigation, who's completed only a few document review-type projects, as an attorney. I don't think anyone who's in a position to hire would.

In an admin position, a person with considerable skills and former experience would be expected to move up more quickly than someone who didn't have her background. But there is NO WAY she should expect to be hired as if she hadn't been away for the amount of time it takes for some newly minted JD to come up for junior partner.

Do you have a JD?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:"I don't want to hear shit about staying home so as not to miss those precious, precious moments with your special, special snowflake."

Wow.

Do you hate all parents? Or just SAHMs?

I suppose you do not consider your children special and the time spent with them as precious. Lucky them.

Also, what's with the "special snowflake" thing? I see this all the time on DCUM. Is this one poster or what?

I agree. As an employer, what you did while you were not working is not interesting to me unless it's relevant to your job quals.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My company is interested in hiring a couple of people to job-share the receptionist position. We're thinking 5 hours each, each day-- a 9-2 shift and a 2-7 shift. SAHMs interested in returning to the workforce would be ideal. We're a small company, very friendly and flexible, and looking for people with a high degree of professionalism and initiative. If anyone is interested, please post your email and I'll send you some more information.

Sure, a receptionist making an hourly wage. A professional making $150,000 or more a year? Hard to see a person who SAH for years in that type of job.

[Anonymous]

... at least not at first. Most people who are out of the workforce for an extended time take a cut in pay and responsibility when they go back.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

But I suppose it takes one to know one?

I wish, but I have to work for my $$$. No biggie! It has something to do with education, PP. You should check it out. You might like it.

This is the kind of education an professional "frump" gets! She knows the proper terminology to describe her outward appearance.



No, it probably describes someone who speaks more than one language fluently. 'An professional frump' - you may want to refresh some of your English lessons from Elementary school.

Is this all you can come up with? An attack on a typo? How frumpish of you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My company is interested in hiring a couple of people to job-share the receptionist position. We're thinking 5 hours each, each day-- a 9-2 shift and a 2-7 shift. SAHMs interested in returning to the workforce would be ideal. We're a small company, very friendly and flexible, and looking for people with a high degree of professionalism and initiative. If anyone is interested, please post your email and I'll send you some more information.

Sure, a receptionist making an hourly wage. A professional making $150,000 or more a year? Hard to see a person who SAH for years in that type of job.

This is incoherent.