NNAT question pattern

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

The whole idea of prepping is just sad. Why wouldn't a parent want a fair assessment of their child's potential ability? There's always individual IQ tests as backup if they don't do well in group testing and you think your snowflake belongs in AAP.

Obviously prepping definitely games the system. Unfortunately some of those kids get through and then struggle in AAP. I guess others may not have problems but AAP teacher friends say there are definitely kids who get in who have lots of trouble keeping up. Also, I'm amazed that kids would need tutors - if your kid needs a tutor then they shouldn't be in AAP.

Thank goodness they use more than test scores with the amount of prepping that seems to be going on!

The test isn't always a fair assessment. Some kids get stressed or nervous if the test format is unfamiliar. Some kids didn't hear the instructions clearly because they got distracted for a few seconds, and the teacher isn't allowed to repeat the instructions.

I wish I had prepped my kid! Her scores did not put her in the screening pool. I was really surprised, but I thought "Oh, well. That's that." Then the second grade teacher called me & pushed me to do a parent referral, so I did. She got in, and recently her 5th grade teacher told me she is one of the best math students in 5th grade (across 4 classes) and that she (the teacher) is working on giving her some additional challenges because she doesn't even have to work very hard in math right now. She has A's in her other subjects as well.

Clearly the "ability testing" did not reflect her ability. I think she got nervous & panicked a little bit. Her full-scale IQ on WISC is 132. If prep would have helped her relax and calmly & thoughtfully answered the questions, I have no problem with it. I wish I had done it b/c it's easier to get in via the pool (and less work!) than doing a referral. I will be prepping my younger child.

I think you are right on the mark and an excellent parent. I am glad for your daughter's success. There are probably many like her who were not prepped who are not as lucky because their teachers did not call them out due to their low test scores. Many are probaby not realizing their full potential as a result.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Exactly. Many parents here seem to think that the test scores are all you need. It's really part of the equation. Test scores, GBRS, Work samples.

And that is why we spend an hour a night going over homework, reviewing concepts, reading, working math problems and studing for upcoming tests. It improves the grades. Is that wrong too as it is "prepping" our child to do better than others on their grades, which creates yet another unfair advantage on the second leg of the admissions criteria? By the way, I also encourge our DS to speak up and think hard in the breakout sesssions arranged by the AAP liason (i.e. gaming the GBRS score). Guess this is unfair too, huh?

[Anonymous]

When do the November NNAT test results come back?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:When do the November NNAT test results come back?

The scores from the October 2011 NNAT testing will likely be sent in mid-January. The scores from the November 2011 CogAT testing will also likely be sent in mid-January. The in-pool letters will also be sent in mid-January.

[Anonymous]

Thanks. My first grader took the NNAT in mid November. There won't be any in-pool letters until after she takes the CogAT in second grade, correct?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Thanks. My first grader took the NNAT in mid November. There won't be any in-pool letters until after she takes the CogAT in second grade, correct?

Correct.

[Anonymous]

That's right. But if DC gets above a 130 then she will most likely be in the pool in 2nd grade. 130 has been the cutoff for the past 2 years.

[Anonymous]

Yes, even if a child is obviously in the pool with their 1st grade NNAT score , you will not be notified until after their 2nd grade Cogat scores come in.