Censorship of Huck Finn

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:true, we need to drop the double standard where AA police get promoted over whites because of their race, and AA job candidates get hired over whites because of their race. Good points. this racism thing is out of control! for a second I forgot our president is black, 2 of the last 3 secretary of states were black, etc. great logic, thanks for the contribution.

Honkey.

Right on!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:if we are ever going to move to a colorblind, multi-racial (or really, post-racial) society, then we cannot have certain rules for some groups but not for others. this is just common plain sense.

There will never be a colorblind or post-racial society in the US. Calline whites "honkeys", "the man," "
Whitry" and these are used in dergatory manner yet we are supposed to accept this? Double standard.

Honkey, that's what makes your children feel belittled? When kids circle around them at the playground and call them honkey? Do you have vivid memories of how it scarred you when you were first called that?

A. No one calls white people honkey except on the Jeffersons, and that show was canceled decades ago. So get out the "Mission Accomplished" banner. Your workplace is safe again.
B. You trivialize this whole discussion with such moronic comparisons.

Thanks for bringing this point up. The ONLY people I've ever heard say honky are:
1. The Jeffersons
2. White people talking about how unfair it is that it's okay to call white people honky (and I've never heard this in real life, only online)
3. White people jokingly calling themselves the word.

Is the word seriously used as a slur? Can anyone share an experience where they've been maliciously called a honky?

[Anonymous]

tell you what, I'll agree that blacks can call me honkey (wtf does that even mean?), if they agree that if they use the N word then so can I.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:tell you what, I'll agree that blacks can call me honkey (wtf does that even mean?), if they agree that if they use the N word then so can I.

We do not agree to that. No one even uses honkey. It's a bad deal.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:true, we need to drop the double standard where AA police get promoted over whites because of their race, and AA job candidates get hired over whites because of their race. Good points. this racism thing is out of control! for a second I forgot our president is black, 2 of the last 3 secretary of states were black, etc. great logic, thanks for the contribution.

You're right of course. Systemic, institutionalized racism no longer exists. Especially in the ranks of the police and firemen.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:tell you what, I'll agree that blacks can call me honkey (wtf does that even mean?), if they agree that if they use the N word then so can I.

No man is free until no man is called honkey.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:tell you what, I'll agree that blacks can call me honkey (wtf does that even mean?), if they agree that if they use the N word then so can I.

Why would anyone want the right to say a racial slur? What satisfaction do you get out of saying a word meant to hurt others? I don't want to say racial slurs, I don't want to say homophobic slurs, and I just can't understand why someone would "campaign" for their right to say them.

[Anonymous]

totally missing the point. no one wants to say the N word, but it is used ALL THE TIME by members of the black community. if your child grows up in a diverse neighborhood, listens to comedy or watches urban movies, he will hear the word constantly. so if he uses the word just like his black friends do, he shouldnt get expelled from school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:totally missing the point. no one wants to say the N word, but it is used ALL THE TIME by members of the black community. if your child grows up in a diverse neighborhood, listens to comedy or watches urban movies, he will hear the word constantly. so if he uses the word just like his black friends do, he shouldnt get expelled from school.

"Members of the black community?"

Okay, I see you have your own special way of viewing things. I won't try to change that. Peace out, my n----.

[jsteele]

Anonymous wrote:"Members of the black community?"

Those are the people that chose the black lifestyle.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:tell you what, I'll agree that blacks can call me honkey (wtf does that even mean?), if they agree that if they use the N word then so can I.

Why would anyone want the right to say a racial slur? What satisfaction do you get out of saying a word meant to hurt others? I don't want to say racial slurs, I don't want to say homophobic slurs, and I just can't understand why someone would "campaign" for their right to say them.

If you are black you might use it to take away its power. Surely you have seen this before. Gays took slurs like Queer and turned them into badges of honor. Queer Nation, for example. They are effectively saying "screw you, homophobes. You can't hurt me with a label". But they get to use it and straights should not. The same thing goes for the triangle, which was put on them by the Nazis. They coopted it to neutralize it. Italians do this with slurs against them, such as Dago and WOP. They use them to negate them. Redneck went from a slur to become a badge of honor, although it is not really a taboo because it is targeted toward white people of no particular ethnicity, and we live in a nation that is majority white.

So really, it is all too common for epithets to be taken over by the targeted group. But when the prejudice behind it is still real, the taboo of others using it is significant.

[Anonymous]

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"Members of the black community?"

Those are the people that chose the black lifestyle.

haha exactly! It is almost impossible to have an rational debate about race on DCUM. To do so, people would have to recognize that no one speaks for an entire race of people. Believe it or not, we're all different. Even if we choose to be "members of the black community".

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:tell you what, I'll agree that blacks can call me honkey (wtf does that even mean?), if they agree that if they use the N word then so can I.

Why would anyone want the right to say a racial slur? What satisfaction do you get out of saying a word meant to hurt others? I don't want to say racial slurs, I don't want to say homophobic slurs, and I just can't understand why someone would "campaign" for their right to say them.

If you are black you might use it to take away its power. Surely you have seen this before. Gays took slurs like Queer and turned them into badges of honor. Queer Nation, for example. They are effectively saying "screw you, homophobes. You can't hurt me with a label". But they get to use it and straights should not. The same thing goes for the triangle, which was put on them by the Nazis. They coopted it to neutralize it. Italians do this with slurs against them, such as Dago and WOP. They use them to negate them. Redneck went from a slur to become a badge of honor, although it is not really a taboo because it is targeted toward white people of no particular ethnicity, and we live in a nation that is majority white.

So really, it is all too common for epithets to be taken over by the targeted group. But when the prejudice behind it is still real, the taboo of others using it is significant.

I'm the poster you quoted. Believe me, I understand everything you just said. I'm a member of a minority group that has some members who reclaim a negative slur.

What you posted is the same thing I'm saying. I am not gay, so I will not go around whining that I can't say queer or the f word, and I will never feel like the victim of a double standard just because I "can't" say those words.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"Members of the black community?"

Those are the people that chose the black lifestyle.

haha exactly! It is almost impossible to have an rational debate about race on DCUM. To do so, people would have to recognize that no one speaks for an entire race of people. Believe it or not, we're all different. Even if we choose to be "members of the black community".

Threads where race comes up always go the same way.

About Asians Successful only in academics... lacking social skills... mentally ill due to quest for perfection
About blacks Lazy... welfare... Obama...
About Hispanics Illegal.... anchor babies... Mexicans
About Native Americans They never come up.

[Anonymous]

so members of the black community don't use the N word constantly?