Is the prettiest woman you personally knew at age 30 still the prettiest at 40? 50?

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One friend is still gorgeous. No work done that I can tell, principal at a private school not in the DMV.

One friend is not, but more worrying is her memory failing and not even 60.

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Anonymous wrote:I think life circumstances can change a person's looks. Some people have tough lives and it shows on their face. I have several friends that aged rapidly due to sad circumstances. Otherwise, most friends are aging well- still beautiful just older.

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Looks and physical health are affected by circumstances and stressors.

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Anonymous wrote:One friend is still gorgeous. No work done that I can tell, principal at a private school not in the DMV.

One friend is not, but more worrying is her memory failing and not even 60.

That's very sad. Early onset Alzheimer's?

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Anonymous wrote:In my case, very much no. The pretty women from my late 20s/early 30s have all either overdone the interventions and look weird, or they gained weight and drank too much and look it.

And I bet that makes you happy.

Get a life, OP, and stop worrying about the people you were jealous of over a decade ago.

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Anonymous wrote:The key is genetics and skincare/sun avoidance.

I come from western Europe and I'm in my 40s. Most of the girls who were stunning in high school smoked and drank, and likely did not age well. The very few that had a healthy lifestyle and healthy parents to teach them how to care for themselves probably fared a lot better. I recall in particular a pretty friend's very handsome mother, with beautiful skin, and the most stunning white-grey hair down to her waist. I've lost touch since, but it wouldn't surprise me that my pretty friend aged just as well as her mother. She clearly knew how to take care of herself!

When I settled here in my 20s, I made friends with Americans who had mostly middle class childhoods and while they did not smoke and drank in moderation, they were not taught to avoid the sun. So even though some of them looked great in their 20s and 30s, now in middle age and beyond, none of them look good now.

I used to be a baby-faced cute-ish girl, never beautiful or stunning. I wasn't particularly popular as a younger woman. But since I've never smoked or drank, and apart from an insolation accident at 19, tried to put on sunscreen... it turns out I look far younger than anyone in my social circle right now. And looking youthful and fresh is now very attractive to men in my circle. I get a lot more compliments now than I used to, just because they're comparing me with women of my own age who look older.

Me again. I'm not discussing weight, because none of my close friends have weight problems and neither have I. We don't do Botox or fillers or lasers.

Trust me. Some of them definitely do Botox and lasers they just don’t tell you about it. Even young people are doing it now. Out of my cousins+ siblings, in their 20-30s half do Botox. Almost everyone that doesn’t have forehead wrinkles at age 40 is doing Botox.

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Anonymous wrote:I have one friend whose mother was a beauty queen and she takes after her mother. She still looks great at 60+. She's definitely used GLP1s recently but who hasn't.

Nobody in my circle is taking any GLP1s. Who are you hanging out with?

They are.

Please. People I've known since college or for the past ten years and have always been a “normal” weight aren’t suddenly going to start taking weight loss drugs.

That would be a very odd decision.

And they’re not celebrities. I doubt a doctor would even be willing to prescribe it for people who aren’t overweight/obese.

sweet summer child....

DP but unless they are wealthy it really doesn't make sense. If you've never been overweight and are not currently overweight, and have no ill health effects due to your weight, you will not get a prescription for GLP-1s. Which means paying out of pocket to take a drug with some pretty unpleasant side effects just to... what? Lose 5-10 lbs? No middle class person is going to do that unless they are very stupid, and I don't hang out with stupid people.

I will also note that most normal weight women I know are far more focused on muscle tone in middle age. If you are naturally a size 2,6, or 8, the thing bugging you about your appearance is unlikely to be your weight, and much more likely to be how your butt or thighs or belly or arms look. And if you aren't overweight, losing a few lbs is not going to drastically change that. Whereas exercise will.

Microdosing to lose 5-10 pounds is pretty common.

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Anonymous wrote:Yes, there's a correlation from 30-50. By 30, you're already aging. Wealthier women with good taste and work ethic age better. Definitely not true of the prettiest people I knew as a teen, though.

Huh?

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Anonymous wrote:In my case, very much no. The pretty women from my late 20s/early 30s have all either overdone the interventions and look weird, or they gained weight and drank too much and look it.

Until 35, yes but unless hyper-focused on looks, starts going down after that and reaches average looks by 45.

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Anonymous wrote:I think life circumstances can change a person's looks. Some people have tough lives and it shows on their face. I have several friends that aged rapidly due to sad circumstances. Otherwise, most friends are aging well- still beautiful just older.

+1

Looks and physical health are affected by circumstances and stressors.

Fact^. Also if you are a sensitive person worrying about human suffering, its going to take a toll on your face and body. Self absorbed people stay young and pretty for long.

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Anonymous wrote:The key is genetics and skincare/sun avoidance.

I come from western Europe and I'm in my 40s. Most of the girls who were stunning in high school smoked and drank, and likely did not age well. The very few that had a healthy lifestyle and healthy parents to teach them how to care for themselves probably fared a lot better. I recall in particular a pretty friend's very handsome mother, with beautiful skin, and the most stunning white-grey hair down to her waist. I've lost touch since, but it wouldn't surprise me that my pretty friend aged just as well as her mother. She clearly knew how to take care of herself!

When I settled here in my 20s, I made friends with Americans who had mostly middle class childhoods and while they did not smoke and drank in moderation, they were not taught to avoid the sun. So even though some of them looked great in their 20s and 30s, now in middle age and beyond, none of them look good now.

I used to be a baby-faced cute-ish girl, never beautiful or stunning. I wasn't particularly popular as a younger woman. But since I've never smoked or drank, and apart from an insolation accident at 19, tried to put on sunscreen... it turns out I look far younger than anyone in my social circle right now. And looking youthful and fresh is now very attractive to men in my circle. I get a lot more compliments now than I used to, just because they're comparing me with women of my own age who look older.

Oh hunny. The smoking, drinking and sunscreen thing is just silly. Sorry you missed out so much. I smoked, dran, didn't use sunscreen, lived in the tropics and look better than most my age. It's just genetics. And staying hydrated.

In my circle smoking, drugs and drinking was considered trashy so I never felt the need nor do I feel like I missed out. I'm thankful for good health outcomes due to that.

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Anonymous wrote:Yes, there's a correlation from 30-50. By 30, you're already aging. Wealthier women with good taste and work ethic age better. Definitely not true of the prettiest people I knew as a teen, though.

Huh?

I don't think she means born wealthy. I think she means ambitious successful career women who generally are type A and can afford things like good haircuts, and also have pressure to get dressed nicely every day for work.

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Anonymous wrote:The key is genetics and skincare/sun avoidance.

I come from western Europe and I'm in my 40s. Most of the girls who were stunning in high school smoked and drank, and likely did not age well. The very few that had a healthy lifestyle and healthy parents to teach them how to care for themselves probably fared a lot better. I recall in particular a pretty friend's very handsome mother, with beautiful skin, and the most stunning white-grey hair down to her waist. I've lost touch since, but it wouldn't surprise me that my pretty friend aged just as well as her mother. She clearly knew how to take care of herself!

When I settled here in my 20s, I made friends with Americans who had mostly middle class childhoods and while they did not smoke and drank in moderation, they were not taught to avoid the sun. So even though some of them looked great in their 20s and 30s, now in middle age and beyond, none of them look good now.

I used to be a baby-faced cute-ish girl, never beautiful or stunning. I wasn't particularly popular as a younger woman. But since I've never smoked or drank, and apart from an insolation accident at 19, tried to put on sunscreen... it turns out I look far younger than anyone in my social circle right now. And looking youthful and fresh is now very attractive to men in my circle. I get a lot more compliments now than I used to, just because they're comparing me with women of my own age who look older.

Oh hunny. The smoking, drinking and sunscreen thing is just silly. Sorry you missed out so much. I smoked, dran, didn't use sunscreen, lived in the tropics and look better than most my age. It's just genetics. And staying hydrated.

In my circle smoking, drugs and drinking was considered trashy so I never felt the need nor do I feel like I missed out. I'm thankful for good health outcomes due to that.

I don't think this is specific to a certain circle. It's more changing times. Not many smokers age 40 or younger compared to older generations. And definitely seems to be fewer heavy drinkers, too.

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Anonymous wrote:The key is genetics and skincare/sun avoidance.

I come from western Europe and I'm in my 40s. Most of the girls who were stunning in high school smoked and drank, and likely did not age well. The very few that had a healthy lifestyle and healthy parents to teach them how to care for themselves probably fared a lot better. I recall in particular a pretty friend's very handsome mother, with beautiful skin, and the most stunning white-grey hair down to her waist. I've lost touch since, but it wouldn't surprise me that my pretty friend aged just as well as her mother. She clearly knew how to take care of herself!

When I settled here in my 20s, I made friends with Americans who had mostly middle class childhoods and while they did not smoke and drank in moderation, they were not taught to avoid the sun. So even though some of them looked great in their 20s and 30s, now in middle age and beyond, none of them look good now.

I used to be a baby-faced cute-ish girl, never beautiful or stunning. I wasn't particularly popular as a younger woman. But since I've never smoked or drank, and apart from an insolation accident at 19, tried to put on sunscreen... it turns out I look far younger than anyone in my social circle right now. And looking youthful and fresh is now very attractive to men in my circle. I get a lot more compliments now than I used to, just because they're comparing me with women of my own age who look older.

Oh hunny. The smoking, drinking and sunscreen thing is just silly. Sorry you missed out so much. I smoked, dran, didn't use sunscreen, lived in the tropics and look better than most my age. It's just genetics. And staying hydrated.

In my circle smoking, drugs and drinking was considered trashy so I never felt the need nor do I feel like I missed out. I'm thankful for good health outcomes due to that.

I don't think this is specific to a certain circle. It's more changing times. Not many smokers age 40 or younger compared to older generations. And definitely seems to be fewer heavy drinkers, too.

Only 1 in 8 ppl 45 or younger smoke regularly.

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Anonymous wrote:I have one friend whose mother was a beauty queen and she takes after her mother. She still looks great at 60+. She's definitely used GLP1s recently but who hasn't.

Nobody in my circle is taking any GLP1s. Who are you hanging out with?

They are.

Please. People I've known since college or for the past ten years and have always been a “normal” weight aren’t suddenly going to start taking weight loss drugs.

That would be a very odd decision.

And they’re not celebrities. I doubt a doctor would even be willing to prescribe it for people who aren’t overweight/obese.

sweet summer child....

DP but unless they are wealthy it really doesn't make sense. If you've never been overweight and are not currently overweight, and have no ill health effects due to your weight, you will not get a prescription for GLP-1s. Which means paying out of pocket to take a drug with some pretty unpleasant side effects just to... what? Lose 5-10 lbs? No middle class person is going to do that unless they are very stupid, and I don't hang out with stupid people.

I will also note that most normal weight women I know are far more focused on muscle tone in middle age. If you are naturally a size 2,6, or 8, the thing bugging you about your appearance is unlikely to be your weight, and much more likely to be how your butt or thighs or belly or arms look. And if you aren't overweight, losing a few lbs is not going to drastically change that. Whereas exercise will.

Microdosing to lose 5-10 pounds is pretty common.

For wealthy people.

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Anonymous wrote:I think life circumstances can change a person's looks. Some people have tough lives and it shows on their face. I have several friends that aged rapidly due to sad circumstances. Otherwise, most friends are aging well- still beautiful just older.

+1

Looks and physical health are affected by circumstances and stressors.

Fact^. Also if you are a sensitive person worrying about human suffering, it's going to take a toll on your face and body. Self absorbed people stay young and pretty for long.

I don't think that's true, actually. My mom is super sensitive and a big worrier who is always thinking about others, for instance, but looked really young until about 60. She just has a youthful face that didn't really start wrinkling until her 50s. Around 60 she kind of morphed from youthful and pretty to grandmotherly and pretty overnight.

Though something else about her is that she never drank alcohol or smoked. At all. Both of her parents were alcoholics and she was a total teetotaler as a result -- I think the only alcohol she ever consumed was the sip of wine at church. Also she was fair skinned and learned early on that she just didn't tan, so always just wore hats and sun block and didn't worry that it wasn't fashionable. I think those things had a lot more to do with her appearance at middle age compared to peers, than being sensitive and empathetic, which she definitely is.