Was Jackie Kennedy a good mother?

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Anonymous wrote:yes! The proof is in the pudding. They both turned out for better than their reckless cousins

JFK Jr. was the definition of reckless. He and his wife and her sister died because he was so entitled and reckless.

The Kennedy men are like that. Reckless, athletic womanizers.

Yes, Jackie couldn't eradicate that Kennedy part. What could she have done?

From her side too. Black Jack Bouvier was a cad

They all cheated a lot. Her parents, JFK, Jackie, JFK Jr., Carolyn Bessette, etc.

Jackie also married her sister’s ex boyfriend (Aristotle) much to her angst.

Like cheating, gold digging runs in families.

It was karma as her sister had a one-time fling with JFK while Jackie sat downstairs while the two of them had their romp in the hay upstairs .

These people were truly trashy.

Lee was a massive beyotch. Hard to know how Anthony turned out okay.

Anthony’s wife Carole is a hard-working, self-made woman from a working-class background. Quite the opposite of his mother and the women in his family.

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Anonymous wrote:yes! The proof is in the pudding. They both turned out for better than their reckless cousins

JFK Jr. was the definition of reckless. He and his wife and her sister died because he was so entitled and reckless.

The Kennedy men are like that. Reckless, athletic womanizers.

Yes, Jackie couldn't eradicate that Kennedy part. What could she have done?

From her side too. Black Jack Bouvier was a cad

They all cheated a lot. Her parents, JFK, Jackie, JFK Jr., Carolyn Bessette, etc.

Jackie also married her sister’s ex boyfriend (Aristotle) much to her angst.

Like cheating, gold digging runs in families.

It was karma as her sister had a one-time fling with JFK while Jackie sat downstairs while the two of them had their romp in the hay upstairs .

These people were truly trashy.

Lee was a massive beyotch. Hard to know how Anthony turned out okay.

Anthony’s wife Carole is a hard-working, self-made woman from a working-class background. Quite the opposite of his mother and the women in his family.

Despite coming from a working class background, Carole accomplished more by the time she met Anthony than any of the Bouvier or Kennedy kids did at that age.

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Anonymous wrote:yes! The proof is in the pudding. They both turned out for better than their reckless cousins

JFK Jr. was the definition of reckless. He and his wife and her sister died because he was so entitled and reckless.

The Kennedy men are like that. Reckless, athletic womanizers.

Yes, Jackie couldn't eradicate that Kennedy part. What could she have done?

From her side too. Black Jack Bouvier was a cad

They all cheated a lot. Her parents, JFK, Jackie, JFK Jr., Carolyn Bessette, etc.

Jackie also married her sister’s ex boyfriend (Aristotle) much to her angst.

Like cheating, gold digging runs in families.

It was karma as her sister had a one-time fling with JFK while Jackie sat downstairs while the two of them had their romp in the hay upstairs .

These people were truly trashy.

Lee was a massive beyotch. Hard to know how Anthony turned out okay.

Anthony’s wife Carole is a hard-working, self-made woman from a working-class background. Quite the opposite of his mother and the women in his family.

Lee might have been nutty and mean to some, but she liked Carole . And, to her credit, she let her only son marry Carole and she welcomed Carole into the family , despite her working class background.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm curious, OP, as to how old you are?

Are you "discovering" the Kennedy's for the first time because of the Love Story show?

For those of us a certain age (I'm 50) Jackie, JFK Jr, Carolyn, to a much lesser extent Caroline were tabloid staples during my formative years in the 80s and 90s.

I grew up with all the books coming out on them, People magazine articles, tabloid stories, etc.

The intense interest died down after the plane crash and really died down after Teddy died.

Guess a whole new generation is discovering them now?

I was just thinking about Caroline today and why she got/gets so much less attention than her brother. I think the fact that she is kinda plain looking and not very glamorous kept the paparazzi away. She's likely quite grateful for that.

Her brother dated celebrities (Daryl Hannah was huge after Splash) and also did things like try to launch a magazine focused on celebs. He chased the celebrity life.

If he were alive today, he would no doubt be somehow involved in a streaming series and in podcasting and social media. He very much did things that put him in front of the public, while his sister did not.

He'd have a Netflix and Spotify deal that result in a bunch of cancelled shows/podcasts with disappointing views, like Harry and Meghan.

I think Harry is a good approximation of JFK’s place in American life, if he were still alive.

He’d probably not connect with the current social media age, and social media users (mostly young) would dislike him because they dislike all “old guard” figures.

I bet he would withdraw from public life and either write, engage in philanthropy, and pursue public service in a more quiet way.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm curious, OP, as to how old you are?

Are you "discovering" the Kennedy's for the first time because of the Love Story show?

For those of us a certain age (I'm 50) Jackie, JFK Jr, Carolyn, to a much lesser extent Caroline were tabloid staples during my formative years in the 80s and 90s.

I grew up with all the books coming out on them, People magazine articles, tabloid stories, etc.

The intense interest died down after the plane crash and really died down after Teddy died.

Guess a whole new generation is discovering them now?

I was just thinking about Caroline today and why she got/gets so much less attention than her brother. I think the fact that she is kinda plain looking and not very glamorous kept the paparazzi away. She's likely quite grateful for that.

Her brother dated celebrities (Daryl Hannah was huge after Splash) and also did things like try to launch a magazine focused on celebs. He chased the celebrity life.

If he were alive today, he would no doubt be somehow involved in a streaming series and in podcasting and social media. He very much did things that put him in front of the public, while his sister did not.

He'd have a Netflix and Spotify deal that result in a bunch of cancelled shows/podcasts with disappointing views, like Harry and Meghan.

I think Harry is a good approximation of JFK’s place in American life, if he were still alive.

He’d probably not connect with the current social media age, and social media users (mostly young) would dislike him because they dislike all “old guard” figures.

I bet he would withdraw from public life and either write, engage in philanthropy, and pursue public service in a more quiet way.

That’s true, he’s a bit old to be embraced by the social media/ streaming generation. He might only have a place in what remains of more traditional network TV that appeals to older folks—doing a segment on the Today show or something like that.

[Anonymous]

Another person who said Carolyn was lovely is Lee’s other child, her daughter Christina. She said many times she was always so warm and kind, especially to Anthony and was always visiting him and helping with his care.

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Anonymous wrote:I think she was a good mother by the standards of the time.

By today's standards, my own mother was not a good mother, but she loved us and did het best anf we loved her.

End of story

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[Anonymous]

I can't believe no one has mentioned cousin / aunt Little Edie and Big Edie Bouvier Beale.

[Anonymous]

She knew JFK jr was too dumb to run for president or fly planes. She tried to protect him and shield him from the discovery of his low IQ.