| Let me know when they actually follow through |
In my undergrad honors math classes in Canada back in the day, they would just set questions on test that were a level beyond what was taught explicitly. You didn’t necessary need more knowledge but better intuition. They wanted to see how far the brightest kids could go. The test averages were around 50% before the curve (which would bring the avg up to 70% maybe?). A handful of students (out of a hundred) would get in the 90s before the curve. |
It is stupid. Only the best and brightest go to Harvard. It tracks that they would achieve. There’s zero reason to artificially impose a bell curve. |
| All you need is the degree. no one asks about your gpa |
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The proposal is hilarious.
20 percent can be As. But there is no limit on A-s, which could literally be the other 80 percent. Yeah, that’ll tackle grade inflation… If they really wanted to fix this, they would implement a required bell curve. |
| Need to get rid of then plus and minus grades and just go back to A, B, C, D and F with bell shaped curves in all classes. Of course that would crush those raised in the last couple of participation trophy generations. |
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Harvard sets the tone for all U.S. schools so this will trickle down, if it passes.
It’s a recommendation and not a policy at this point. Perhaps the committee is doing a little “Art of the Deal” negotiating, so when 30% is the compromise, everyone wins. |
| What happened to the days when students at top colleges were warned from the beginning that they would no longer be at the top of their class because everyone else also came from the top of their class?? I remember being warned about this in a first year orientation speech at my SLAC 30 years ago… |
Actually, no: the answer is serious entitlement on the part of students and their snowplow parents which starts way before college |
Not just because of grade inflation, though, but because the quality of student work has actually massively decreased (ie what earns an A in 2026 would never have done so when I was in college back in the 1990s). And this statement is true at just about every school, not just at Harvard |
I’ve interviewed plenty of HYP for employers — it’s overrated. |
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Grade inflation is a problem at all of the colleges and a lot of high schools now. This chart, which is about Williams, makes it appear that the problem really started around 2015 or so:
https://williamsrecord.com/468144/news/memo-shows-76-percent-of-grades-in-a-range-last-year-prompting-faculty-discussion/ |
| Yeah but try getting into med school or law school with a low gpa. Big problem unless all schools follow suit |
| People should get the grade they deserve. If sixty percent of the class deserves an A, they need to get an A. You don't make students compete for a limited amount. That's obnoxious. |