Need targets and safeties

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Anonymous wrote:The reaches my DS likes best are Harvey Mudd, Carleton, Swarthmore, and Brown. He likes them because they are collaborative environments without substantial Greek life that have strong STEM offerings (he wants to be a math or statistics major and go to grad school).

What are possible targets and safeties? Assume he has the stats to be competitive at the above reaches, but they are still lottery tickets.

Curious, if your DS doesn't want to do Greek why does it matter if there is Greek on campus? He just doesn't get involved in it. I think you may be eliminating a log of school schools.

because at some schools it dominates social life

True - but any school with 20% of less Greek life will have the vast majority of students involved in other activities.
DP

As a guideline, this U.S. News list of fraternity participation extends to 19%:

2026 Colleges with the Most Students in Fraternities | US News Rankings https://share.google/Xq2vHK7sWbotHcyNg

Like most things US News, this doesn’t look accurate. Union, for example, is three times higher than the school reports.


Percent of students participating in Greek life is information contained in a school’s cds. OP should look there for the schools that are of interest.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The reaches my DS likes best are Harvey Mudd, Carleton, Swarthmore, and Brown. He likes them because they are collaborative environments without substantial Greek life that have strong STEM offerings (he wants to be a math or statistics major and go to grad school).

What are possible targets and safeties? Assume he has the stats to be competitive at the above reaches, but they are still lottery tickets.

Curious, if your DS doesn't want to do Greek why does it matter if there is Greek on campus? He just doesn't get involved in it. I think you may be eliminating a log of school schools.

because at some schools it dominates social life

True - but any school with 20% of less Greek life will have the vast majority of students involved in other activities.
DP

As a guideline, this U.S. News list of fraternity participation extends to 19%:

2026 Colleges with the Most Students in Fraternities | US News Rankings https://share.google/Xq2vHK7sWbotHcyNg

Like most things US News, this doesn’t look accurate. Union, for example, is three times higher than the school reports.


Percent of students participating in Greek life is information contained in a school’s cds. OP should look there for the schools that are of interest.

Union College, which is the school that has been discussed here, doesn't appear in this U.S. News site at all. I'd suggest that the OP seek any resource that they regard as reliable and convenient, such as U.S. News seems to be in this case.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The reaches my DS likes best are Harvey Mudd, Carleton, Swarthmore, and Brown. He likes them because they are collaborative environments without substantial Greek life that have strong STEM offerings (he wants to be a math or statistics major and go to grad school).

What are possible targets and safeties? Assume he has the stats to be competitive at the above reaches, but they are still lottery tickets.

Curious, if your DS doesn't want to do Greek why does it matter if there is Greek on campus? He just doesn't get involved in it. I think you may be eliminating a log of school schools.

because at some schools it dominates social life

True - but any school with 20% of less Greek life will have the vast majority of students involved in other activities.
DP

As a guideline, this U.S. News list of fraternity participation extends to 19%:

2026 Colleges with the Most Students in Fraternities | US News Rankings https://share.google/Xq2vHK7sWbotHcyNg

Like most things US News, this doesn’t look accurate. Union, for example, is three times higher than the school reports.


Percent of students participating in Greek life is information contained in a school’s cds. OP should look there for the schools that are of interest.

Union College, which is the school that has been discussed here, doesn't appear in this U.S. News site at all. I'd suggest that the OP seek any resource that they regard as reliable and convenient, such as U.S. News seems to be in this case.

Any school’s most recent common data set is always the best source for accurate information.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The reaches my DS likes best are Harvey Mudd, Carleton, Swarthmore, and Brown. He likes them because they are collaborative environments without substantial Greek life that have strong STEM offerings (he wants to be a math or statistics major and go to grad school).

What are possible targets and safeties? Assume he has the stats to be competitive at the above reaches, but they are still lottery tickets.

Curious, if your DS doesn't want to do Greek why does it matter if there is Greek on campus? He just doesn't get involved in it. I think you may be eliminating a log of school schools.

because at some schools it dominates social life

True - but any school with 20% of less Greek life will have the vast majority of students involved in other activities.
DP

As a guideline, this U.S. News list of fraternity participation extends to 19%:

2026 Colleges with the Most Students in Fraternities | US News Rankings https://share.google/Xq2vHK7sWbotHcyNg

Like most things US News, this doesn’t look accurate. Union, for example, is three times higher than the school reports.


Percent of students participating in Greek life is information contained in a school’s cds. OP should look there for the schools that are of interest.

Union College, which is the school that has been discussed here, doesn't appear in this U.S. News site at all. I'd suggest that the OP seek any resource that they regard as reliable and convenient, such as U.S. News seems to be in this case.

Any school’s most recent common data set is always the best source for accurate information.

Such a comment would be more persuasive if anyone had pointed out a single flaw in the U.S. News sites posted earlier.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The reaches my DS likes best are Harvey Mudd, Carleton, Swarthmore, and Brown. He likes them because they are collaborative environments without substantial Greek life that have strong STEM offerings (he wants to be a math or statistics major and go to grad school).

What are possible targets and safeties? Assume he has the stats to be competitive at the above reaches, but they are still lottery tickets.

Curious, if your DS doesn't want to do Greek why does it matter if there is Greek on campus? He just doesn't get involved in it. I think you may be eliminating a log of school schools.

because at some schools it dominates social life

True - but any school with 20% of less Greek life will have the vast majority of students involved in other activities.
DP

As a guideline, this U.S. News list of fraternity participation extends to 19%:

2026 Colleges with the Most Students in Fraternities | US News Rankings https://share.google/Xq2vHK7sWbotHcyNg

Or you could just google the name of the college and percentage Greek life.

[Anonymous]

My kid, who just got into Swat ED as STEM major, also liked Wash U and Haverford and Chicago. Bowdoin, Grinnell, Williams had good aspects but too remote. Did not like Lafayette.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’d take a look at Union, more “stem”y than most lads and would probably be a target or likely depending on your kid’s stats.

Agree with this. If you want frats they are still an important part of life there, but if you don’t that’s ok, too. One of my kids went there as did the kid’s spouse. Neither was Greek. The results could not be more satisfactory, in our experience. One is a successful lawyer by any objective measurement and the other an equally successful physician. And the campus is beautiful.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’d take a look at Union, more “stem”y than most lads and would probably be a target or likely depending on your kid’s stats.

However, Union graduated only 9 first majors in mathematics in a recent year. This is substantially fewer than that of potential alternatives for a highly accomplished student, such as Haverford (37), Hamilton (30), Oberlin (23) or Grinnell (15).

College Navigator - Union College https://share.google/N6ksZlF2mNHQb4Xg5
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Navigator - Haverford College https://share.google/lQP6pyweVSOJOyMT7

College Navigator - Hamilton College https://share.google/NZVUnY79ZqQeQo3sO

College Navigator - Oberlin College https://share.google/Ujv9rf8vbucYQ4Bzc

College Navigator - Grinnell College https://share.google/KCukkf6DZvpnrrvjm